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[Sabrblade]

It doesn't matter who it is. And if he's in charge of continuity and declares two contradicting fictions to be in the same universe, he's in the wrong, not the universes.

One authority can not just shoehorn their own vision into the canon if the canon contradicts them, even if they wrote it themselves. It's just not how fiction works. Unless for instance you think the pope can decide biblical canon... if so, we're just on two different pages here.

Um, he created the Aligned continuity's history and timeline first, and then the two parties behind the games and show created their works based on what he and Alvarez created. The games and show are adaptations of his work, not vice-versa.

Plus, you keep saying that there two contradict each other, yet there's little to say that they do. As the Beast Era has proven, the argument of "different art styles = incompatibility" is invalid. There has yet to be anything that cannot be rationally explained between the two.

[Stumpybot]

Its the same universe, its an aligned continuity, that to me suggests that its one timeline

the difference in representation between videogame, book, prime and rescue bots is down to artistic license. Its entirely possible that Prime Optimus is the same guy as WFC Prime, its just seeing the world through a different set of eyes. Same timeline, interpretation skewed to suit the medium

trotting out wfc/foc designs every time a character comes out and demanding the difference be explained is counter productive, it just is what it is. If it confuses to the point somebody get angry i suggest they relax and let the pretty toys take their mind off it

Personally i love the look of dead end. The box bio does say he's spent years near dark energon and its mutated him, so that explains the deco sufficiently for me

[MINDVVIPE]

I love that Dead-end is this sort of cannibal. I could see him eventually being cast out from the Decepticon ranks due to being caught feeding on a fellow con. He would end up on the highways just searching for unsuspecting prey, only to one day randomly meet Nemesis Prime (the Straxus-created one) on the highway and be forced to do freaky night time battle.

Also, just wanted to add regarding the continuity debate; My Prime Arcee in my collection is not Arcee but really Chromia. So you see, it doesn't really matter too much if you wanted to just make your own continuity with the figures you have. I have more fun that way.

[orangeitis]

Um, he created the Aligned continuity's history and timeline first, and then the two parties behind the games and show created their works based on what he and Alvarez created. The games and show are adaptations of his work, not vice-versa.

I was under the impression that WFC was made with being in a Primax cluster universe in mind. Can you cite the source that states otherwise?

Plus, you keep saying that there two contradict each other, yet there's little to say that they do. As the Beast Era has proven, the argument of "different art styles = incompatibility" is invalid. There has yet to be anything that cannot be rationally explained between the two.

There's a lot that says they contradict each other. Just to name a couple, dark energon in WFC is a manufacturable product that was created from normal energon, which dark energon in Prime is the blood of Unicron. And Prime Megatron isn't infused with dark energon as he is in Prime. There are many many other errors between Exodus, WFC/FoC, and Prime if one considers them in the same universe. Trying to retcon in answers to them all would simply be too irrational.

I'm not referring to different art styles. I'm referring to aesthetics. G1 Optimus looked fairly the same in his appearance in Beast Wars than in the G1 cartoon. Same aesthetics. Not so in WFC to Prime, where he looks completely different.

Again, it's just a baseless assertion for now to assume WFC designs predate Prime designs in-universe. We need more information from Hasbro if we are to resolve this.

[WarzoneBeta]

Holy crap! Deadend's face is just a mask, the translucent part is a "mouth visor" and eye covers. Look closely at the "Screaming Mouth" part there is a face behind it.

THATS AWESOME!

[Delta Magnus]

Airrachnid looks good, I think that the pictures are ruined by unimaginative posing.

Dead End looks positively evil. I like him.

Bumblebee doesn't look too bad either!

[First-Aid]

OK. Enough disagreement. I am going to put forth one word that will make everyone agree and shake hands...






BACON.


That is all. Thank you.

[prmlove1]

I like the Wheeljack repaint/remold and Bee looks ok but Airachnid looks hideous. Those hands are horrible. What is she supposed to be, a mime. This characer definitely should have been a voyager figure.

[dinojack86]

Airachnid looks awful, just awful. Guess we know which characters don't really matter to the toy developers. If this were the 90's she would have at least gotten a Mega class (Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia comes to mind). They would have hit her out the park. This, this looks like a happy meal toy, a complete joke.

[Noideaforaname]

Dead End is Halloween incarnate.