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Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:58 pm

Hmm... It just does not feel like a Masterpiece to me. I kind of expected a binaltech/alternator type of car with a cartoon accurate robot mode (maybe I am asking for too much). But this car mode just looks so simple and dumb, the door does not seem to open and it does not seem to have any interior details.

Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:10 pm

daniel77 wrote:Hmm... It just does not feel like a Masterpiece to me. I kind of expected a binaltech/alternator type of car with a cartoon accurate robot mode (maybe I am asking for too much). But this car mode just looks so simple and dumb, the door does not seem to open and it does not seem to have any interior details.

i don't understand when you say "it just doesn't feel like a masterpiece to me" ? .. it's not a binaltech/alternator type car because it's a Masterpiece* figure... masterpiece, as i've stated before, pretty much means, CARTOON accurate robot mode - CARTOON accurate alternate mode. both of which are achieved here.. and each mode seems to be executed to the t.

i'm sorry, but i can deal with the doors not opening, and no interior details for a screen accurate robot mode. which, from the looks of it, is what's going on with this figure.

prmlove1 wrote:Which version of Masterpiece Prime is he being compared with?

MP10. the newer one. the photo is showing that they're in proper scale with each other.

Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:13 pm

I agree with the comments above: Is this worthy of the title Masterpiece? If so then does this mean the end of the previous scale versions? Don't get me wrong I like it...but it seems to be stirring up more questions than its answering. Will they be doing the other bots now to scale? Will they be including other vehicle name brands in the line up? Will the Red Alert mold have pile drivers too or something different? Are we getting another Megatron in this scale class?

Things I like: The scale is neat in that it can fit in MP-10 Primes trailer and appears to be in scale vehicle to vehicle comparison wise. Love the Lamborgini badge and accurate wheel rims.

Things I don't like: The price for the overall size of the toy for starters, it reminds me of how soda companies try to fool the public by keeping the same price but cutting back on the actual amount of product in the can. And whats up with the tiny face on a large head? Why are the pile drivers flat? (i.e. Rumble) I thought Sideswipes pile drivers had a sharper tip to them in the cartoon?

I won't lie...as a staunch "Geewunner"...I'll be getting atleast one of these at the very least.

Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:29 pm

TimothyR wrote:
daniel77 wrote:Hmm... It just does not feel like a Masterpiece to me. I kind of expected a binaltech/alternator type of car with a cartoon accurate robot mode (maybe I am asking for too much). But this car mode just looks so simple and dumb, the door does not seem to open and it does not seem to have any interior details.

i don't understand when you say "it just doesn't feel like a masterpiece to me" ? .. it's not a binaltech/alternator type car because it's a Masterpiece* figure... masterpiece, as i've stated before, pretty much means, CARTOON accurate robot mode - CARTOON accurate alternate mode. both of which are achieved here.. and each mode seems to be executed to the t.

i'm sorry, but i can deal with the doors not opening, and no interior details for a screen accurate robot mode. which, from the looks of it, is what's going on with this figure.

prmlove1 wrote:Which version of Masterpiece Prime is he being compared with?

MP10. the newer one. the photo is showing that they're in proper scale with each other.

I hear ya. I think it is just my expectation might be too high on this since this is first time they do masterpiece car. Think about it, they were able to design binaltech/alternator years ago and the only complaint (potential improvement) I have on binaltech/alternator is the weak robot mode. After they announced MP12, I thought (hoped) they could improve their binaltech/alternator design on robot mode then call that a masterpiece class. Now looks like I've asked for too much and that design might be impossible (or maybe not) for now. I still hope they can do that some day though.

Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:32 pm

I am pretty disappointed. I was really hoping for proportions more along these lines.

News Credits: 3 · Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:56 pm

Looks pretty awesome and lokks much better than the Binaltech Lambor/Sideswipe version. Can't wait to get this one in my hands, I also wait to get also Red Alert in my hands, yeah I know it's just a repaint but hey this mold looks just awesome, I still hope that they release also a MP Jazz one day and also an MP Cliffjumper, because Cliffjumper is so many ways better than Bumblebee., my opinion.

News Credits: 3649 · Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:06 am

daniel77 wrote:
TimothyR wrote:
daniel77 wrote:Hmm... It just does not feel like a Masterpiece to me. I kind of expected a binaltech/alternator type of car with a cartoon accurate robot mode (maybe I am asking for too much). But this car mode just looks so simple and dumb, the door does not seem to open and it does not seem to have any interior details.

i don't understand when you say "it just doesn't feel like a masterpiece to me" ? .. it's not a binaltech/alternator type car because it's a Masterpiece* figure... masterpiece, as i've stated before, pretty much means, CARTOON accurate robot mode - CARTOON accurate alternate mode. both of which are achieved here.. and each mode seems to be executed to the t.

i'm sorry, but i can deal with the doors not opening, and no interior details for a screen accurate robot mode. which, from the looks of it, is what's going on with this figure.

prmlove1 wrote:Which version of Masterpiece Prime is he being compared with?

MP10. the newer one. the photo is showing that they're in proper scale with each other.

I hear ya. I think it is just my expectation might be too high on this since this is first time they do masterpiece car. Think about it, they were able to design binaltech/alternator years ago and the only complaint (potential improvement) I have on binaltech/alternator is the weak robot mode. After they announced MP12, I thought (hoped) they could improve their binaltech/alternator design on robot mode then call that a masterpiece class. Now looks like I've asked for too much and that design might be impossible (or maybe not) for now. I still hope they can do that some day though.

Not sure where the "cartoon" accurate train of thought has come from, since none of the Masterpiece figures have really been all-too cartoon accurate. While the Masterpieces have paid homage to features of the character from the cartoon, I wouldn't consider any of them to be "cartoon" accurate, though MP-10, MP-11, and MP-12 could be debatable.

MP-01 Convoy - robot mode is debatable, truck mode is not cartoon accurate
MP-02 Ultra Magnus - you can throw this one right out the door for cartoon accuracy.
MP-03 Starscream - not cartoon accurate in vehicle or robot mode
MP-04 Convoy with trailer - trailer is a nice homage to the G1 toy trailer
MP-05 Megatron - not accurate in robot mode, gun mode is a nice oversized walther P-38
MP-06 Skywarp - getting closer with more cartoon "accurate" colors, but wouldn't consider this accurate again due to the difference with the vehicle mode and the obvious changes to the robot mode
MP-07 Thundercracker - getting closer in robot mode, but still the wrong blue
MP-08 Grimlock - nice cartoon references with the waiter accessories, as well as cartoon and toy color schemes for the eyes in dinosaur and robot modes. The toy has cartoon homages, but is most heavily influenced by the G1 toy. The US version has the nice crown for a comic reference.
MP-09 Rodimus - Might be the first one to really try to go with the cartoon look, feel, and colors. Might be the biggest failure/departure/disappointment of this line so far. I take that back ... MP-05 Megatron is, but Rodimus is pretty damn close.
MP-10 Convoy - I'll give you guys this one if you think it's cartoon accurate. Full of cartoon homages, sure, but I think we're arguing semantics on this one.
MP-11 Starscream - far more of a cartoon styling and coloring scheme, still wouldn't consider this "cartoon" accurate, but I'll give you guys this one too for the sake of the debate.
MP-12 Lambor - G1 toy accurate? G1 cartoon accurate? Way more of a nice hybrid between both to me.

Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:09 am

Wow! That is a massive DO WANT.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:13 am

It looks great. The colors work.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:23 am

Ok. Hasbro, just make EVERY Transformer like THIS. The end.
=P~

Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:31 am

omega666 wrote:Ok. Hasbro, just make EVERY Transformer like THIS. The end.

>Transformers 4

Nope, chuck testa. :michaelbay:

Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:32 am

G1 Legacy wrote:Will they be doing the other bots now to scale?

That's what they said they'd do. *shrug*

Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:39 am

Nice, but just too big. After 3 seekers and Grimlock, I gave up the Masterpiece line.

News Credits: 44 · Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:41 am

G1 Legacy wrote: Are we getting another Megatron in this scale class?

Rumor has it......

News Credits: 5 · Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:41 am

Man that looks really nice in both modes. Looks like the windows are just painted - but I can handle that.

I do wish he was a bit larger though.

One thing, it looks like there is a pin/screw through the side of hi helmet. I wonder what that is for?

News Credits: 5 · Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:48 am

I don't see rubber wheels?
For 100$ and being an MP it better have rubber tires.

Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:03 am

TimothyR wrote:
you do understand that sunstreaker won't be made using this mold.. right?

I never said anything about this mold being used for Sunstreaker. I just prefer Sunstreaker over Sideswipe. So if and when one comes out, I'll buy it.

Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:13 am

RodimalToyota wrote:I don't see rubber wheels?
For 100$ and being an MP it better have rubber tires.

Who would spend $100 on tires that would just break in 5 years? :???:

Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:25 am

I'm looking forward to this figure. I'm still a bit undecided about the size. I think it looks a bit odd standing next to MP10 by itself, but I'm sure once more figures in a similar size to Sideswipe are released then they will all look pretty damn rad next to each other.

Can't wait.

News Credits: 15 · Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:08 am

Great update to the G1 toy. Looks good in both modes. Hollow parts on legs are an issue, maybe they will sort that out but I doubt it.

News Credits: 22 · Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:42 am

Looks like I'll be starting to collect these. It looks flawless. I'm gonna buy Prime when he hits TRU, but SS is mine as soon as he's available online, as long as the price isn't ridiculous. And even though Red Alert wasn't even a supporting character, I'm probably gonna buy the repaint if it's that sharp.

News Credits: 4 · Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:07 am

Mine MIne MIne MIne!!!!!!!!

Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:34 am

artistvideogame wrote:I am pretty disappointed. I was really hoping for proportions more along these lines.

Yeah that huge honkin' chest is an eyesore. I wish they worked in a way to collapse it like MP Rodimus.

Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:25 am

It looks fantastic but how small/big will this figure be?

Will it be Alternator size in bot and vehicle mode? If so it's a must get for me if it's smaller i don't want it as there would be no way to display it with. No i didn't get that Prime that they have pictured, i am fine with MP01 and MP04.

News Credits: 60 · Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:10 am

Rated X wrote:Nice, but just too big. After 3 seekers and Grimlock, I gave up the Masterpiece line.

What do you mean too big?

Compare the scaling of the first gen "diaclone" converts, the size are just about on par.

Anyway, just give this a chance, so long as it doesn't break apart in the seams like Rodimus. Rubber tires would be nice and the chest is just right, this is a car after all that "mass shifting" is simply impossible.

I also like how they took a nod at how his face sculp and head for that matter, looks very much like the original Sideswipe/Lambor toy. The henkei version, though equally good, had those icky "side burns" that kind of turned me off.