ricemazter wrote:Even so that still contradicts the TFP timeline as we know it. In the show he only became optimus prime after interacting with the core of cybertron, still being orion pax before that. Even if the story did match up, it's clear in the prime show that upon meeting the core he was physically reformatted into a new body by the matrix/core which did not happen in wfc where he was given the matrix and only stored it away.
Ratchet was the one telling that story, and he was never even present to bear witness any of the events he described, so none of it was from his memory. Therefore, the images shown in that flashback could have only come from either his or the humans' imaginations, in which there are bound to be some inconsistencies from how the events actually played out. Plus, with Ratchet having not been there, it's possible that he got some thing mixed up from secondary sources who told him of those events (or, he's just getting senile
Not to mention the fact that, after Optimus lost the Matrix's energy at the end of the episode, he did not revert to any previous body form like he would have had he gotten a new form upon being granted the Matrix. Everytime someone has gotten a new physical form upon receiving the Matrix, they always reverted back to their previous state after the Matrix's removal. Yet, no such event happened to Optimus when he emptied the Matrix. He only lost his memories, not his bulk. If he had been upgraded before, he would have at least gotten smaller or something. But he did not.
Besides, Optimus's official profile of the Fall of Cybertron website describes him exactly as Exodus and the Prime cartoon said he was like before becoming Optimus. Everything official wants us to treat him as the same guy across the board. Why continue to fight what's canon?
Rated X wrote:I watched both seasons of TF Prime and there was no damn Thundertron. Who is this guy ? He seems to be a new mold so is this character coming in season 3 ? Or did they just stick an animated head on an old unused mold just to make money ?
Where on Earth have you been during every single discussion about this toy on this website? This guy from the Exiles novel, a fact Hasbro explicitly spelled out when they first revealed him at BotCon last April, and is a part of the Prime cartoon's universe. He's even going to be a major antagonist in the upcoming Transformers: Online MMORPG game, which is also set in the world of the Prime cartoon.