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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby RhA » Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:55 am

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monstergrotusque wrote:Piss poor Classics release if you ask me. Lazy.


I’m not sure why you consider a new head sculpt to be lazy.
A straight repaint would be lazy, calling the character a name that has a weaker visual identity could arguably be considered lazy (Powerdive, while lovely, contained very little Powerdive for instance and few people minded).

Sure, Brawn may not work as Brawn (I’ll reserve my opinion until in hand photos surface) but to call it lazy is incredibly unfair.

But honestly, call this the straw, because to hell with this forum.

I’m honestly not sure how everyone summons such vehement hatred for anything produced post circa 1988 on a daily basis and I’m honestly not sure why the loudest and more obnoxious fans feel quite so entitled and deserving of Hasbros undivided attention, especially considering just how loud and obnoxious they are but the bile that comes from this forum is inexcusable.
Not everything Hasbro produce is pure gold but the way this forum reacts is just embarrassing when you consider that behind the keyboards are not 12 year olds but chaps in their middle ages with 12 year olds.

Yes, you have opinions and I’m sure it’s a lovely and unique snowflake of a thing but take a deep breath before posting, considers maybe, that this limited release retool is not the worst thing to happen to your family, that Hasbro is not threating to drown a loved one unless you make the purchase and show an ounce of **** class before responding.

But like I say, my toys have long exited the pram, so carry on.


You're right. You are far to grown up for us. You should leave and be around normal, well adjusted people who completely agree with you.

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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:01 am

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Krok wrote:
monstergrotusque wrote:Piss poor Classics release if you ask me. Lazy.


I’m not sure why you consider a new head sculpt to be lazy.
A straight repaint would be lazy, calling the character a name that has a weaker visual identity could arguably be considered lazy (Powerdive, while lovely, contained very little Powerdive for instance and few people minded).

Sure, Brawn may not work as Brawn (I’ll reserve my opinion until in hand photos surface) but to call it lazy is incredibly unfair.

But honestly, call this the straw, because to hell with this forum.

I’m honestly not sure how everyone summons such vehement hatred for anything produced post circa 1988 on a daily basis and I’m honestly not sure why the loudest and more obnoxious fans feel quite so entitled and deserving of Hasbros undivided attention, especially considering just how loud and obnoxious they are but the bile that comes from this forum is inexcusable.
Not everything Hasbro produce is pure gold but the way this forum reacts is just embarrassing when you consider that behind the keyboards are not 12 year olds but chaps in their middle ages with 12 year olds.

Yes, you have opinions and I’m sure it’s a lovely and unique snowflake of a thing but take a deep breath before posting, considers maybe, that this limited release retool is not the worst thing to happen to your family, that Hasbro is not threating to drown a loved one unless you make the purchase and show an ounce of **** class before responding.

But like I say, my toys have long exited the pram, so carry on.

That's this fandom for ya. Half of us are stuck in the past and treat every new thing as a direct insult. It's best to ignore them, they don't respond to things like logic or reason.

I do think the head doesn't match the body. Just like that Cliffjumper and G2 Megatron, it's a completely different aesthetic and they don't work together. It's like putting a baby's head on an adult body.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Burn » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:14 am

Evil_the_Nub wrote:I do think the head doesn't match the body. Just like that Cliffjumper and G2 Megatron, it's a completely different aesthetic and they don't work together. It's like putting a baby's head on an adult body.


Or ... you know ... Star Wars Transformers in general.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby AutobotMR2 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:47 am

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LOL! But seriously, I applaud them for trying to reach out to other characters...but no, not for me at all. I will pick up Wheelie before this guy...bring on Hench! And Krok...welcome to the real world. You think this is bad....I have seen far worse out of the fandom than just this. Personally I'd rather have people dog Hasbro than just treat them as a living messiah of toys or something.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Overcracker » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:16 am

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I tend to agree to some degree with Krok.

A couple months ago everybody was going head over heels for FE Bulkhead. Now it's the devil spawn, because the head is different.

I don't expect everybody to like everything, or agree with everybody, but when people start to disagree with themselves because the head is different.... They need to consult psychologist..

Seriously, the head is so offensive, a once praised mold for its greatness, and cartoon accuracy is now complete crap?

Anyway, I like it, if I can get my hands on one I will. And if this may be the only way to get FE molds rereleased over here then fine. The head to me is fine, sure it's not Primish, but it works to identify the character, and the color scheme is close enough to bulkhead for it to work as.ri,e Bulkhead.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Hotrodimust » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:21 am

I dont think it's that bad I mean if u are looking for a g1 updated version this is not the right figure for u. But I think he looks big and tuff and the head is not cartoon looking like bulkhead. I think this figure would look a lot better with some slight color change and maybe holding a gun and not a wrecking ball. Or maybe just slap this head on a Sargent kup body. Idk but I'm picking this guy up I don't think he's as bad as sdcc bruticus.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby RhA » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:22 am

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Overcracker wrote:I tend to agree to some degree with Krok.

A couple months ago everybody was going head over heels for FE Bulkhead. Now it's the devil spawn, because the head is different.

I don't expect everybody to like everything, or agree with everybody, but when people start to disagree with themselves because the head is different.... They need to consult psychologist..

Seriously, the head is so offensive, a once praised mold for its greatness, and cartoon accuracy is now complete crap?

Anyway, I like it, if I can get my hands on one I will. And if this may be the only way to get FE molds rereleased over here then fine. The head to me is fine, sure it's not Primish, but it works to identify the character, and the color scheme is close enough to bulkhead for it to work as.ri,e Bulkhead.


Look at it this way. Let's say we take your girlfriend, who has a a great body and is the object of affection not only to you, but also your friends and replace her head with that of Sylvester Stallone.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Hotrodimust » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:30 am

RhA wrote:
Overcracker wrote:I tend to agree to some degree with Krok.

A couple months ago everybody was going head over heels for FE Bulkhead. Now it's the devil spawn, because the head is different.

I don't expect everybody to like everything, or agree with everybody, but when people start to disagree with themselves because the head is different.... They need to consult psychologist..

Seriously, the head is so offensive, a once praised mold for its greatness, and cartoon accuracy is now complete crap?

Anyway, I like it, if I can get my hands on one I will. And if this may be the only way to get FE molds rereleased over here then fine. The head to me is fine, sure it's not Primish, but it works to identify the character, and the color scheme is close enough to bulkhead for it to work as.ri,e Bulkhead.


Look at it this way. Let's say we take your girlfriend, who has a a great body and is the object of affection not only to you, but also your friends and replace her head with that of Sylvester Stallone.

This is such a bad compairison lol I like my TFs but I no way will I ever consider one the object of my affection lol they are just plastic it's not that serious.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Doubledealer93 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:33 am

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here is why i dont like it:
its not a good classics brawn. it was a good bulkhead. not brawn. brawns head on a bulkheads body does not a classics brawn make.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby AutobotMR2 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:34 am

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

He has a point though. People aren't saying the mold is bad. The head makes it look goofy as all hell. I'd like to imagine he waddles like a damn penguin when he walks. (Someone PLEASE make a stop motion video of this!) That Mold is awesome and will always be, but one little thing like that can ruin it. The Asian exclusive Cliffjumper being another perfect example
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby AutobotMR2 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:40 am

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Hotrodimust wrote:
RhA wrote:
Overcracker wrote:I tend to agree to some degree with Krok.

A couple months ago everybody was going head over heels for FE Bulkhead. Now it's the devil spawn, because the head is different.

I don't expect everybody to like everything, or agree with everybody, but when people start to disagree with themselves because the head is different.... They need to consult psychologist..

Seriously, the head is so offensive, a once praised mold for its greatness, and cartoon accuracy is now complete crap?

Anyway, I like it, if I can get my hands on one I will. And if this may be the only way to get FE molds rereleased over here then fine. The head to me is fine, sure it's not Primish, but it works to identify the character, and the color scheme is close enough to bulkhead for it to work as.ri,e Bulkhead.


Look at it this way. Let's say we take your girlfriend, who has a a great body and is the object of affection not only to you, but also your friends and replace her head with that of Sylvester Stallone.

This is such a bad compairison lol I like my TFs but I no way will I ever consider one the object of my affection lol they are just plastic it's not that serious.


That's all relative to the ammount of money you have invested in them. If you only have a few figures you bought from wal-mart or something yeah, I can see that. But if you have spent more on just your transformers than the price of a mid-size car...you have to be somewhat emotionally attached to them, otherwise you wouldn't have spent that kind of money.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Doubledealer93 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:41 am

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AutobotMR2 wrote::lol: :lol: :lol:

He has a point though. People aren't saying the mold is bad. The head makes it look goofy as all hell. I'd like to imagine he waddles like a damn penguin when he walks. (Someone PLEASE make a stop motion video of this!) That Mold is awesome and will always be, but one little thing like that can ruin it. The Asian exclusive Cliffjumper being another perfect example


the cliffjumper is not as bad as this but the head look goofy.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Stumpybot » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:44 am

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I like it. I love the mold, the head isnt bad and dammit i dont think it looks bad as a whole.

Im obviously a fool and no doubt somebody will call me one for having this opinion. Krok is right, way too many people on here fly off the handle way to quick and to ridiculous extremes and now we've got the new trend of people that take a perfectly sensible and valid point like the immature responses and act like ignorant dicks trying to shoot it down. I know theres a few intelligent asshats among the vocally immature minority, but dont say youve got a right to express your opinion and then shoot down those who point out youre being a dick. coz youre just being more of a dick. i could rant all day on the abuse the freedom of speech has suffered and how it doesnt excuse lack of manners, but hey, im a brit, what do i know, america gave us freedom... oh wait.....

If you dont like it, youre not going to buy it, yet we have these lovely nerds that post 500 words rants on the utter shittiness of toys that others may like. Im not going to shoot down UltraMason's post, hey the guy has the right to his opinion, even if its childish and over dramatic, but he's totally ENTITLED to express himself, just like im ENTITLED to call every opinionated, entitled, over dramatic whiney nerd a joke to the fandom for behaving in such a childish, pathetic manner over plastic toys
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Stumpybot » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:49 am

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btw, other than the head size, i dont find GDO Cliffy too bad. It was a daft choice to use FE molds but its Hasbro Asia, Brawn is likely never getting a release outside their territory. And instead the US and hopefully the UK will be getting FE Bulky, so really... its not a big deal what this guy looks like since he's gonna be too difficult/expensive to buy and youre getting the original anyway
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Doubledealer93 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:49 am

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yeah im trying to like it but no dice. i will never like it. im allowed to not like it. to me it is just not brawn. i see a bulkhead with brawns head. a lot of hate in this thread.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby AutobotMR2 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:01 am

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Let the hate consume us all! And we aren't saying people that like it are wrong stumpy, I was merley pointing out that MOST of us are just saying the head looks goofy, which deals in no way with the mold. It was said how we loved FE Bulkhead, but now that Hasbro put a Brawn head on it we all hate that mold......not true. Most of us have said that the figure looks funny BECAUSE of the head, not the FE Bulkhead mold itself. And you're right, if there is only ONE opinion, it's not an opinion anymore...it's Fascism.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:05 am

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I appreciate the idea of updating G1 Brawn into a mold that looks much more the part of "strong man" he played, but yeah, this didn't work out as well as hoped, I think. Does anyone with good photoshoping skills want to try slapping that head on the Commander class Cyberverse Bulkhead body and touch it up with this paint scheme?

And Krok, if you think some transformers fans are over the top with the fanrage and venomous spite, be glad you're not a fan of Sonic the Hedgehog. :roll:
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Hotrodimust » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:06 am

AutobotMR2 wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:
RhA wrote:
Overcracker wrote:I tend to agree to some degree with Krok.

A couple months ago everybody was going head over heels for FE Bulkhead. Now it's the devil spawn, because the head is different.

I don't expect everybody to like everything, or agree with everybody, but when people start to disagree with themselves because the head is different.... They need to consult psychologist..

Seriously, the head is so offensive, a once praised mold for its greatness, and cartoon accuracy is now complete crap?

Anyway, I like it, if I can get my hands on one I will. And if this may be the only way to get FE molds rereleased over here then fine. The head to me is fine, sure it's not Primish, but it works to identify the character, and the color scheme is close enough to bulkhead for it to work as.ri,e Bulkhead.


Look at it this way. Let's say we take your girlfriend, who has a a great body and is the object of affection not only to you, but also your friends and replace her head with that of Sylvester Stallone.

This is such a bad compairison lol I like my TFs but I no way will I ever consider one the object of my affection lol they are just plastic it's not that serious.


That's all relative to the ammount of money you have invested in them. If you only have a few figures you bought from wal-mart or something yeah, I can see that. But if you have spent more on just your transformers than the price of a mid-size car...you have to be somewhat emotionally attached to them, otherwise you wouldn't have spent that kind of money.

Oh trust me I have enuf of them I used to have over 600 TFs I was missing 4 figures from the dc universe classics line and I had all sub lines and Matty figures not even released yet. 300 marvel universe figures a hefty amount of dc direct figures. But in the end I sold almost everything except anything chug related and prime and a couple Radom batman and green lantern figures. I had every single DOTM figure released in Americas Retail stores plus the last wave that never hit. Every human alliance figure almost every animated figure I didn't like the activators I even had the takara figures that didn't make it to the states. I have a ton of 3rd party including most FP sets. I have shattered glass Hotrod and henkei wildrider. And even after selling most of it except for chug figures I still have 300 TFs figures left. But the point is I'm attached to my figures but I sold all that so I can go places this summer with my family. I didn't have to sell them but I would rather have the extra cash to do more things with my family because no matter how much I love TFs I could never compair them to my beautiful wife and kids. And I don't think any other man in their right mind should either. Atleast I made YouTube videos to remember my figures by lol
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby AutobotMR2 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:19 am

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I'm the same way, that's why my collection is so small in a relative sense. I tell my wife all the time that if I can afford a TF, and we can still make ends meet with a little to spare, she' ok. She also knows I will never put a TF over her and my son. I'm not saying to be emotionally attached you have to put TFs over EVERYTHING in your life, but you have to have some connection to them. That's the whole reason I started collecting almost 3 years ago, for my love of TFs. And I agree with you, no sane person should ever put this hobby over their family...cause then I believe they have a problem.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Hotrodimust » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:21 am

Stumpybot wrote:btw, other than the head size, i dont find GDO Cliffy too bad. It was a daft choice to use FE molds but its Hasbro Asia, Brawn is likely never getting a release outside their territory. And instead the US and hopefully the UK will be getting FE Bulky, so really... its not a big deal what this guy looks like since he's gonna be too difficult/expensive to buy and youre getting the original anyway

When I first saw gdo cliff I thought he was bad but after I got him in hand I like him. It's just that everyone is so used to seeing his body on prime cliff. But once u get passed that he's a really good figure and I think brawn is gonna be the same way.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby RhA » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:25 am

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Overcracker wrote:I tend to agree to some degree with Krok.

A couple months ago everybody was going head over heels for FE Bulkhead. Now it's the devil spawn, because the head is different.

I don't expect everybody to like everything, or agree with everybody, but when people start to disagree with themselves because the head is different.... They need to consult psychologist..

Seriously, the head is so offensive, a once praised mold for its greatness, and cartoon accuracy is now complete crap?

Anyway, I like it, if I can get my hands on one I will. And if this may be the only way to get FE molds rereleased over here then fine. The head to me is fine, sure it's not Primish, but it works to identify the character, and the color scheme is close enough to bulkhead for it to work as.ri,e Bulkhead.


Look at it this way. Let's say we take your girlfriend, who has a a great body and is the object of affection not only to you, but also your friends and replace her head with that of Sylvester Stallone.

This is such a bad compairison lol I like my TFs but I no way will I ever consider one the object of my affection lol they are just plastic it's not that serious.


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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:32 am

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I dont know what everyone's complaining about, he fits in fine with the rest of your voyager to ultra sized "Mini-Bots"
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby RhA » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:35 am

Motto: "BRING ME DANGER!"
BeastProwl wrote:I dont know what everyone's complaining about, he fits in fine with the rest of your voyager to ultra sized "Mini-Bots"


Yes, and he's ugly.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Ravage XK » Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:41 am

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Anyone else noticed how his torso now looks like a giant head? The doors are his angry eyes, the brown section is the inside of his massive open mouth and he even has two fangs at the top!

Block out Brawn's head with your thumb and you'll see it.
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Re: A Closer Look at Transformers Generations Voyager Brawn

Postby Mkall » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:10 am

Weapon: Twin Sonic Cannons
I prefer iGear to this thing.
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