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Postby ausbot » Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:58 pm

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As this was their most important mission why didn't they contact wheeljack to help?
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby RAcast » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:09 pm

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ausbot wrote:As this was their most important mission why didn't they contact wheeljack to help?

He's allegedly still beat to a pulp and since he doesn't have Main Character Syndrome, he can't magically recover like Bulkhead.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby Bubbah » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:03 pm

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RAcast wrote:
ausbot wrote:As this was their most important mission why didn't they contact wheeljack to help?

He's allegedly still beat to a pulp and since he doesn't have Main Character Syndrome, he can't magically recover like Bulkhead.

How did Bulk "magically" recover? He spent like 3 episodes recovering and getting better. In fact short of death, Prime spent more time on his injury than any other animated series spent on someone's injuries that I can think of off hand. Most characters got shot or banged up and the next week looked & acted as if nothing ever happened. Speedy recovery has always been a part of Transformers, and I was actually surprised and impressed with the fact that showed Bulkhead recovering for so long.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby RAcast » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:15 pm

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Bubbah wrote:
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ausbot wrote:As this was their most important mission why didn't they contact wheeljack to help?

He's allegedly still beat to a pulp and since he doesn't have Main Character Syndrome, he can't magically recover like Bulkhead.

How did Bulk "magically" recover? He spent like 3 episodes recovering and getting better. In fact short of death, Prime spent more time on his injury than any other animated series spent on someone's injuries that I can think of off hand. Most characters got shot or banged up and the next week looked & acted as if nothing ever happened. Speedy recovery has always been a part of Transformers, and I was actually surprised and impressed with the fact that showed Bulkhead recovering for so long.

Granted, but it seemed like they made a big deal of him being nigh-permanently out of commission. I mean, it's not surprising that they decided to write him back in when they did, but it just seemed like they made a really big deal out of his getting a bit beat up.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby Bubbah » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:19 pm

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RAcast wrote:
Bubbah wrote:
RAcast wrote:
ausbot wrote:As this was their most important mission why didn't they contact wheeljack to help?

He's allegedly still beat to a pulp and since he doesn't have Main Character Syndrome, he can't magically recover like Bulkhead.

How did Bulk "magically" recover? He spent like 3 episodes recovering and getting better. In fact short of death, Prime spent more time on his injury than any other animated series spent on someone's injuries that I can think of off hand. Most characters got shot or banged up and the next week looked & acted as if nothing ever happened. Speedy recovery has always been a part of Transformers, and I was actually surprised and impressed with the fact that showed Bulkhead recovering for so long.

Granted, but it seemed like they made a big deal of him being nigh-permanently out of commission. I mean, it's not surprising that they decided to write him back in when they did, but it just seemed like they made a really big deal out of his getting a bit beat up.

Yeah I can see your point on that ... He is the "big bad Bulkhead" so any kind of injury is a major event haha, but it worked well as a midseason cliffhanger.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:30 pm

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He recovered too fast. In "Hurt" when Ratchet said he may never be fully functional again, I thought this was a great opportunity for him to come back in Season 3 after spending the rest of Season 2 in stasis. Especially since the Autobots have the Forge now, they could've pounded him some new armor to upgrade into, as the writers told us to look out for upgrades in Prime.

But then he recovers in 3 episodes. Ratchet's a damn liar. :BANG_HEAD:

I still think they'll use the Forge to give their Autobots these upgrades in-show:

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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby RAcast » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:35 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:He recovered too fast. In "Hurt" when Ratchet said he may never be fully functional again, I thought this was a great opportunity for him to come back in Season 3 after spending the rest of Season 2 in stasis. Especially since the Autobots have the Forge now, they could've pounded him some new armor to upgrade into, as the writers told us to look out for upgrades in Prime.

But then he recovers in 3 episodes. Ratchet's a damn liar. :BANG_HEAD:

I still think they'll use the Forge to give their Autobots these upgrades in-show:

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I thought they hinted at them coming across a wrecked ship full of weapons and such, which was where they'd get the upgraded weapons and armor from?
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:44 pm

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RAcast wrote:I thought they hinted at them coming across a wrecked ship full of weapons and such, which was where they'd get the upgraded weapons and armor from?


Don't recall. Even if that is the case, I hope they use the Forge to their disposal. A new voice box for Bumblebee? Perhaps a shuttle? HQ Defense Systems?

Unless they lose it in the season finale :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby RAcast » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:53 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
RAcast wrote:I thought they hinted at them coming across a wrecked ship full of weapons and such, which was where they'd get the upgraded weapons and armor from?


Don't recall. Even if that is the case, I hope they use the Forge to their disposal. A new voice box for Bumblebee? Perhaps a shuttle? HQ Defense Systems?

Unless they lose it in the season finale :BANG_HEAD:

The Cons do know where their base is, don't they? Laserbeak and such... I foresee it ending badly, very badly.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:10 pm

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RAcast wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
RAcast wrote:I thought they hinted at them coming across a wrecked ship full of weapons and such, which was where they'd get the upgraded weapons and armor from?


Don't recall. Even if that is the case, I hope they use the Forge to their disposal. A new voice box for Bumblebee? Perhaps a shuttle? HQ Defense Systems?

Unless they lose it in the season finale :BANG_HEAD:

The Cons do know where their base is, don't they? Laserbeak and such... I foresee it ending badly, very badly.


Yeah, they do. How are defense systems are a bad thing in the event the Decepticons ever commence a surprise attack?
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby Bubbah » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:19 pm

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Maybe there are defenses, we just haven't seen them because there's never been an attack at HQ. Megatron has been there, but it was planned so defenses could've been shut down, and with Starscream attacking, everything was slowed down so the possible defenses never had a chance to activate ... Just a theory though.

Depending on the finale though, I'm more concerned with how Wheeljack ends up with them on Cybertron and all his upgrades even though he wasn't a part of their most dire moment and attack plan. That's a bigger hole to me, than Bulkhead's recovery.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby RAcast » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:24 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
RAcast wrote:
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RAcast wrote:I thought they hinted at them coming across a wrecked ship full of weapons and such, which was where they'd get the upgraded weapons and armor from?


Don't recall. Even if that is the case, I hope they use the Forge to their disposal. A new voice box for Bumblebee? Perhaps a shuttle? HQ Defense Systems?

Unless they lose it in the season finale :BANG_HEAD:

The Cons do know where their base is, don't they? Laserbeak and such... I foresee it ending badly, very badly.


Yeah, they do. How are defense systems are a bad thing in the event the Decepticons ever commence a surprise attack?

Do they even have a defense grid? I thought the "defense grid" was basically not letting people know where they were.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Autobot_Outpost_Omega_One

The only mention I saw of anything resembling defenses was those giant metal shields...I do sincerely hope Ratchet had some time to spare on turrets.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:39 pm

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Huh? I'm talking about using the Forge to craft hidden exterior defense systems that manually activate in the future event that they detect a Decepticon in-bound. You still haven't answered my question as to how that would end "badly," and now we're bringing up shields that pop out of their flooring, and a defense grid I never mentioned? :???:
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby RAcast » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:51 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:Huh? I'm talking about using the Forge to craft hidden exterior defense systems that manually activate in the future event that they detect a Decepticon in-bound. You still haven't answered my question as to how that would end "badly," and now we're bringing up shields that pop out of their flooring, and a defense grid I never mentioned? :???:

Oh, sorry! I mean, I expect things to end badly because it's down to Ratchet and maybe Wheeljack back at home, while everybody but Megatron on the Con side is still on earth.

Hence, "ends badly" if Ratchet hasn't already created a sufficient defense grid.

"Ends badly" entails the base being destroyed, the remaining artifacts (including the forge) being stolen/re-re-stolen (in the case of the Forge), and generally making the Bots temporarily homeless. Not to mention that Airachnid will probably see release in the middle of the scuffle.
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Postby Sabrblade » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:02 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
RAcast wrote:I thought they hinted at them coming across a wrecked ship full of weapons and such, which was where they'd get the upgraded weapons and armor from?


Don't recall.
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As an aside, they also noted at the panel that there have been some liberties taken between show and toy form, in that not everything we see in one will be seen in the other, like with the Predacons in that they made more Predacons for us to enjoy in toy form that we may or may not see in the show.

And the same could be said about the Autobots' and Soundwave's new armor upgrades that could also be just for the toys' pack-in story instead of for the show. i say this since it would be cheaper for them to not change the character modles that drastically and just leave them as they are, which many suspect could be the case (even on this site's Twincast Podcast).
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby Archanubis » Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:56 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
RAcast wrote:I thought they hinted at them coming across a wrecked ship full of weapons and such, which was where they'd get the upgraded weapons and armor from?


Don't recall. Even if that is the case, I hope they use the Forge to their disposal. A new voice box for Bumblebee? Perhaps a shuttle? HQ Defense Systems?

Unless they lose it in the season finale :BANG_HEAD:

I don't see how that can happen. Seems to me they left it back at base.

RAcast wrote:The Cons do know where their base is, don't they? Laserbeak and such... I foresee it ending badly, very badly.

They know the approximate area the base is in. They don't know EXACTLY where, though. And even the approximate area may change, since the 'cons grabbing the kids may force them to move. Who knows.
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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby njb902 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:00 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
RAcast wrote:I thought they hinted at them coming across a wrecked ship full of weapons and such, which was where they'd get the upgraded weapons and armor from?


Don't recall. Even if that is the case, I hope they use the Forge to their disposal. A new voice box for Bumblebee? Perhaps a shuttle? HQ Defense Systems?

Unless they lose it in the season finale :BANG_HEAD:

I don't see how that can happen. Seems to me they left it back at base.

RAcast wrote:The Cons do know where their base is, don't they? Laserbeak and such... I foresee it ending badly, very badly.

They know the approximate area the base is in. They don't know EXACTLY where, though. And even the approximate area may change, since the 'cons grabbing the kids may force them to move. Who knows.



The cons could make the bots tell them by threatening the kids. Then they just use the nemesis to blow it up.

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Re: Transformers Prime "Regeneration" Preview Clip

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:14 pm

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Archanubis wrote:
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RAcast wrote:I thought they hinted at them coming across a wrecked ship full of weapons and such, which was where they'd get the upgraded weapons and armor from?


Don't recall. Even if that is the case, I hope they use the Forge to their disposal. A new voice box for Bumblebee? Perhaps a shuttle? HQ Defense Systems?

Unless they lose it in the season finale :BANG_HEAD:

I don't see how that can happen. Seems to me they left it back at base.


I was speaking in the event they return to Earth at some point in season 3, perhaps to build a shuttle and officially leave.

Granted, this was posted before the preview clip. It was mere speculation.
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