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[That Bot]

Is Hasbro not allowed to release Ser-Ket? Is Takara not allowed to release Ripclaw?

Yes to both. No to both. And I am leaning towards no, unless TOMY decides to pull a "Rumble and Frenzy" by making some minor retooling on Ser-Ket. Otherwise, I only expect them to do the two characters separately.

We currently have no indication at all about whether or not Hasbro will release Ser-Ket in their markets, or whether this mold will ever see a Takara release in any form. However, being as Ser-Ket is a Hasbro creation, and the toy mold will be released in some form on Hasbro's shores, there's stronger precedent for a Ser-Ket release than Hasbro Ironhide or Frenzy.

Also, we don't even know if Takara will be continuing the Arms Micron gimmick into Beast Hunters.

Just note that TOMY created a history for this line and the only way they will abandon it is if season 3 and beyond have nothing to do with Earth. Because Arms Microns are weapons that were exposed to Earth's energon and mutated in the process. And even then, it looks like they have no intention to abandon it anytime soon.

They created a gimmick story for the toyline that has little to no bearing in the show, even with the alterations they made to their version of the cartoon. The gimmick was chosen due to the popularity of model-building in Japan, so it seems unlikely they'd drop it now. However, I think a lot of us hope they at least stop with the decals on the main figures and go back to paint apps.

[PrymeStriker]

If she is more than a mere concept character, and more than background character, she will have some form of superiority. Then again, she does not have to be a main character to be a major character... As she might be between the Vehicons (minor) and Predaking (main).

Or she's a toy only. Ser-Ket has a better chance of showing up than Ripclaw.

Yes to both. No to both. And I am leaning towards no, unless TOMY decides to pull a "Rumble and Frenzy" by making some minor retooling on Ser-Ket.

Why would they need to retool it? Ripclaw's model is not different from Ser-Ket at all.

[KUMA-NIN Maximus]

We currently have no indication at all about whether or not Hasbro will release Ser-Ket in their markets, or whether this mold will ever see a Takara release in any form. However, being as Ser-Ket is a Hasbro creation, and the toy mold will be released in some form on Hasbro's shores, there's stronger precedent for a Ser-Ket release than Hasbro Ironhide or Frenzy.

I disagree with two factors at hand:

1) TOMY's decisions are based on characters that currently reside within PRIME and characters that they feel work with their own continuity.

2) Hasbro's decisions are based on their Binder of Revelation.

In other words - TOMY has a whole lot more freedom than Hasbro when it comes to these characters. And unless Hasbro has some plans for Ser-Ket, which I also hope to hear about, we should hope that TOMY picks him up.

Oh... And with this topic... I am curious to know what kind of Arms Micron that TOMY would consider giving Ripclaw, and if it would form an ultimate Predacon weapon.

They created a gimmick story for the toyline that has little to no bearing in the show, even with the alterations they made to their version of the cartoon. The gimmick was chosen due to the popularity of model-building in Japan, so it seems unlikely they'd drop it now. However, I think a lot of us hope they at least stop with the decals on the main figures and go back to paint apps.

I'll remember that when I talk to those I know that actually follow the Japanese line, That Bot. Because based on what TOMY has stated, the Arms Micron are an official part of their continuity. The only reason why they cannot include them in the current PRIME series is because they are only capable of dubbing it. However, they have the option to branch off from the series after season 2, and allow the Arms Microns to have a greater role in their exclusive works.

Then again, and I blame Sabrblade for this, but I would love to see them do a spin-off manga series starring Leo Prime. Because that way, we get more of him and a deeper understanding tied to the importance of the Arms Micron, etc.

[PrymeStriker]

And unless Hasbro has some plans for Ser-Ket

He's one of the main characters in the "Rage of the Dinobots" comics.

[KUMA-NIN Maximus]

Or she's a toy only. Ser-Ket has a better chance of showing up than Ripclaw.

Pryme, remember me saying that I have a lot to do? I am thinking that is not important here.

So I will just get to the point: The series that Ser-Ket appears in is a means to fill in the gaps that connect FOC to PRIME. Both IDW and Hasbro currently know the fates of Ser-Ket and others that worked for Shockwave, as well as what Ripclaw's role is within the Predacon team.

In other words: I assume that Ser-Ket is Grimlock fodder, Ripclaw is his twin sister, and if both Ripclaw and the Dinobots appear in season 3... You are going to love being wrong.

Myself... I have decided to not focus on this until TOMY makes a decision tied to Beast Hunters. Because (again, thanks to Sabrblade) I am contemplating Leo Prime... And will consider these if they decide to reissue the "yellow variant" of G1 Predaking (as I have the "gold" version).

would they need to retool it? Ripclaw's model is not different from Ser-Ket at all.

Really. Does that mean I should ignore the retooling done to "Arms Micron" Arcee? Because two versions are pretty much the same, but the Arms Micron version had some retooling done for her Arms Micron companion. Hence my point to that.

[KUMA-NIN Maximus]

And unless Hasbro has some plans for Ser-Ket

He's one of the main characters in the "Rage of the Dinobots" comics.

Emphasis on comics. Plus, he is one of the main villains in the story, and is facing off against the Dinobots. Meaning that Grimlock and company will not show any sympathy to those who have an undying allegiance to Shockwave.

So unless he is a coward and manages to escape... Grimlock becomes a big softy and spares him... Or he changes allegiances... I salute the fact that IDW gave him a death that is better than your other two favorite Decepticons.

[Mindmaster]

... I salute the fact that IDW gave him a death that is better than your other two favorite Decepticons.

[KUMA-NIN Maximus]

... I salute the fact that IDW gave him a death that is better than your other two favorite Decepticons.

Thanks for the laugh. I just hope Pryme remembers that I support his favorites my not buying anything tied to those who those who butchered his main favorite.

Now if you do not mind... I have some reading to do, some apps to find, and a way to get the financial backing I need to turn my 2013 plans into a reality.

[PrymeStriker]

Emphasis on comics.

That ties right into the third season of Prime. Imagine that.

So unless he is a coward and manages to escape... Grimlock becomes a big softy and spares him... Or he changes allegiances... I salute the fact that IDW gave him a death that is better than your other two favorite Decepticons.

1) So, just because he's the villain, and the Dinobots are involved, he's gonna die. Brilliant conclusion. If that's the case, Shockwave should have died in Fall of Cybertron. Instead, he gets his left arm torn off and replaced by a cannon hosed from his back.

2) You just dissed Knock Out and Soundwave.

Both IDW and Hasbro currently know the fates of Ser-Ket and others that worked for Shockwave, as well as what Ripclaw's role is within the Predacon team.

You're ignoring the possibility of Ripclaw being a toy-only character.

In other words: I assume that Ser-Ket is Grimlock fodder, Ripclaw is his twin sister, and if both Ripclaw and the Dinobots appear in season 3... You are going to love being wrong.

Dude, you need not assume Ser-Ket is going to die. Grimlock's kicked the asses of many Decepticons. Not all of them have died.

Really. Does that mean I should ignore the retooling done to "Arms Micron" Arcee?

You said pull a "Rumble and Frenzy." Frenzy, the blue one over there, has a totally different head from Rumble, the blue one over here. You didn't say anything about Arms Micron retooling. All of them have that.

Pryme, remember me saying that I have a lot to do? I am thinking that is not important here.

It's not. You could get what you need done done and come back and reply when you have enough time. Nobody's asking you to respond on the spot.

[Mindmaster]

Emphasis on comics.

That ties right into the third season of Prime. Imagine that.

So unless he is a coward and manages to escape... Grimlock becomes a big softy and spares him... Or he changes allegiances... I salute the fact that IDW gave him a death that is better than your other two favorite Decepticons.

1) So, just because he's the villain, and the Dinobots are involved, he's gonna die. Brilliant conclusion. If that's the case, Shockwave should have died in Fall of Cybertron. Instead, he gets his left arm torn off and replaced by a cannon hosed from his back.

2) You just dissed Knock Out and Soundwave.

Both IDW and Hasbro currently know the fates of Ser-Ket and others that worked for Shockwave, as well as what Ripclaw's role is within the Predacon team.

You're ignoring the possibility of Ripclaw being a toy-only character.

In other words: I assume that Ser-Ket is Grimlock fodder, Ripclaw is his twin sister, and if both Ripclaw and the Dinobots appear in season 3... You are going to love being wrong.

Dude, you need not assume Ser-Ket is going to die. Grimlock's kicked the asses of many Decepticons. Not all of them have died.

Really. Does that mean I should ignore the retooling done to "Arms Micron" Arcee?

You said pull a "Rumble and Frenzy." Frenzy, the blue one over there, has a totally different head from Rumble, the blue one over here. You didn't say anything about Arms Micron retooling. All of them have that.

Pryme, remember me saying that I have a lot to do? I am thinking that is not important here.

It's not. You could get what you need done done and come back and reply when you have enough time. Nobody's asking you to respond on the spot.

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