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News Credits: 3 · Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:13 pm

Errr...not totally sure about how he looks. But something tells me that if I see it in a store, I'll just grab it because I like Raptors :roll:

News Credits: 2 · Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:49 pm

Mr.Bond007 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
Psychout wrote:What's with the extra claws in his chest?

I think he meant in Raptor Mode. Not the bone like rib design he has in robot mode, but the actual claws under his dino head. between his dinky little arms. There seem to be 2 claws like he had his feet in the old toy.

However in robot mode those claws really aren't used for anything as he has fists now. So he has 2 gratuitous claws in beast mode that only make his chest look really bad.

However I think he's a good update, but for some reason i like the original toy better.

ahh ok I see what ur talking about maybe they wanted to make him more show accurate because in the show he had claw like hands idk it just looks bad I'll still buy him though.

From my understanding, those are NOT meant to be claws, but RIBS. (not the ribs he had in robot mode on his legs and torso mind you, but raptor ribs.) why they're pointed upward like that I do not have a concrete answer for you, but not even hasbro would put 2 sets of claw hands on the same figure for no reason. They're ribs, not claws.

Badass Grimlock wrote: I am NOT whining. just merely pointing out my point of view.

People are whining that it isn't show accurate because its SUPPOSED to be in homage to the beast wars character. Homage gets lost in translation with transformers fans and is converted into "direct retool/redesign/show accurate new mold."

And while you are stating your opinion, it does come off as a bit whiny.

Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:55 am

Old news.

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Merc With A Mouth wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
JazZeke wrote:This is just awful. The mold doesn't look half bad but the deco is horribly, horribly wrong. It's like they reversed all the colors on him. I might just hold out on the hopes of a more show accurate redeco later on.

I reckon TakaraTomy might get his deco more show-accurate.

http://www.allspark.com/index.php?set_a ... _photo.php

http://www.allspark.com/index.php?set_a ... _photo.php

http://www.allspark.com/content/view/3788/20/

News Credits: 1 · Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:18 am

Surprisingly no one's complaining about the red missle/sword. I suppose I might as well then. It doesnt' ruin the figure, but if they were going to cast it in translucent plastic, couldn't they have chosen a color like darkish blue/black or something? Gonna have to add some paint to this one, cause that is one ugly sword.

News Credits: 14 · Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:13 pm

Head Shot wrote:
Mr.Bond007 wrote:
Overcracker wrote:I think he meant in Raptor Mode. Not the bone like rib design he has in robot mode, but the actual claws under his dino head. between his dinky little arms. There seem to be 2 claws like he had his feet in the old toy.

However in robot mode those claws really aren't used for anything as he has fists now. So he has 2 gratuitous claws in beast mode that only make his chest look really bad.

However I think he's a good update, but for some reason i like the original toy better.

ahh ok I see what ur talking about maybe they wanted to make him more show accurate because in the show he had claw like hands idk it just looks bad I'll still buy him though.
From my understanding, those are NOT meant to be claws, but RIBS. (not the ribs he had in robot mode on his legs and torso mind you, but raptor ribs.) why they're pointed upward like that I do not have a concrete answer for you, but not even hasbro would put 2 sets of claw hands on the same figure for no reason. They're ribs, not claws.

I'll, have to respectfully disagree:

Click image for full size pic.

They even have fingers.

News Credits: 767 · Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:07 pm

If those should be Raptor ribs, why the fu** would yo be able to see them in dinomode?
Those are his robot hands to imitate his show look, the fists in there are so he can hold weapons.

News Credits: 2 · Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:32 pm

Dead Metal wrote:If those should be Raptor ribs, why the fu** would yo be able to see them in dinomode?
Those are his robot hands to imitate his show look, the fists in there are so he can hold weapons.

I can see someone's ribs protruding from beneath someone's skin, I fail to see why this is any different. Plus its a dinosaur, theyve always been protrayed as being bony, especially raptors. Why those things are pointed upwards? no idea. As for the imitating his hands from the show, thats another possibility, but I fail to see how that works too considering in the show and old toy.... his hands were the claws on the feet... and not like wolverine claws.

News Credits: 767 · Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:37 pm

Head Shot wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:If those should be Raptor ribs, why the fu** would yo be able to see them in dinomode?
Those are his robot hands to imitate his show look, the fists in there are so he can hold weapons.

I can see someone's ribs protruding from beneath someone's skin, I fail to see why this is any different. Plus its a dinosaur, theyve always been protrayed as being bony, especially raptors. Why those things are pointed upwards? no idea. As for the imitating his hands from the show, thats another possibility, but I fail to see how that works too considering in the show and old toy.... his hands were the claws on the feet... and not like wolverine claws.

If you have a look at his dino feet you will notice that they changed the trasformation for this release. His dino legs are his robot legs, his dino claws rotate to reveal the robot feet. You can even see the orange fists in his dino chest:

See they forgot to rotate the dino feet.

Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:23 pm

It's a stolen toy, and people are surprised it's mistransformed?

News Credits: 767 · Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:28 am

Merc With A Mouth wrote:It's a stolen toy, and people are surprised it's mistransformed?

Not me. I'm just surpriozed he thinks those are ribs.

News Credits: 14 · Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:04 pm

Merc With A Mouth wrote:It's a stolen toy, and people are surprised it's mistransformed?

Whether he is mistransformed or not, is not the issue.
Its the fact that he has a pair of useless claws in beast mode. which seem to only fold back in robot mode. Why not just chest panels to make the best mode more rounded and complete? What is the purpose of the three fingered claws there?

I guess we'll need to wait for a review to find out what the claws are for.

News Credits: 767 · Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:26 pm

Overcracker wrote:
Merc With A Mouth wrote:It's a stolen toy, and people are surprised it's mistransformed?

Whether he is mistransformed or not, is not the issue.
Its the fact that he has a pair of useless claws in beast mode. which seem to only fold back in robot mode. Why not just chest panels to make the best mode more rounded and complete? What is the purpose of the three fingered claws there?

I guess we'll need to wait for a review to find out what the claws are for.

they are there to make him look a bit more like the toon model.

News Credits: 129 · Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:53 pm

Really Hasbro?

So, it's like that now is it?

News Credits: 2 · Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:27 pm

Dead Metal wrote:
Head Shot wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:If those should be Raptor ribs, why the fu** would yo be able to see them in dinomode?
Those are his robot hands to imitate his show look, the fists in there are so he can hold weapons.

I can see someone's ribs protruding from beneath someone's skin, I fail to see why this is any different. Plus its a dinosaur, theyve always been protrayed as being bony, especially raptors. Why those things are pointed upwards? no idea. As for the imitating his hands from the show, thats another possibility, but I fail to see how that works too considering in the show and old toy.... his hands were the claws on the feet... and not like wolverine claws.

If you have a look at his dino feet you will notice that they changed the trasformation for this release. His dino legs are his robot legs, his dino claws rotate to reveal the robot feet. You can even see the orange fists in his dino chest:

See they forgot to rotate the dino feet.

I never mentioned anything about the feet of the NEW toy.
I'll repeat what I said in regards to the "feet"
"... no idea. As for the imitating his hands from the show, thats another possibility, but I fail to see how that works too considering in the show and old toy.... his hands were the claws on the feet... and not like wolverine claws"

What I would like to mention is I highly doubt hasbro's intentions of putting those "vestigial limbs" there were meant to be interpretted as another set of claws. Its not necessary, and not even hasbro is that stupid. There has to be some sort of reasoning to them and the only reasoning I can see at the moment is in dino mode theyre to be interpretted as ribs (awkward yes, especially because theyre facing upwards and not outwards from the chest), and in robot mode they are to somewhat imitate the look of his hands from the show, but it seems to be pretty poor job at doing either one because now they just look like they gave him wolverine's claws.

News Credits: 2 · Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:16 am

Really don't know what to say about this TFU figure, he looks kind of cool and doesn't at the sametime if that makes sense and actually lost touch when transformers switch to the beastwars crap.. and now back into transformers just only into the TFU 2.0 series and some TFM as well. Oh well i'll wait until i see him on the shelf at wal-mart or target and that will be the final decision..

OH! anything as far as Cheetor, he is Henkei only! if i decide..

Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:49 pm

I take back my earier insult to hasbro! This is a great toy! I just saw the pics of dinobot over at TFW2005 and he looks so much better. The dino hands kick ass! I'm glad it's not usless kibble anymore.

News Credits: 767 · Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:53 am

Head Shot wrote:I never mentioned anything about the feet of the NEW toy.
I'll repeat what I said in regards to the "feet"
"... no idea. As for the imitating his hands from the show, thats another possibility, but I fail to see how that works too considering in the show and old toy.... his hands were the claws on the feet... and not like wolverine claws"

What I would like to mention is I highly doubt hasbro's intentions of putting those "vestigial limbs" there were meant to be interpretted as another set of claws. Its not necessary, and not even hasbro is that stupid. There has to be some sort of reasoning to them and the only reasoning I can see at the moment is in dino mode theyre to be interpretted as ribs (awkward yes, especially because theyre facing upwards and not outwards from the chest), and in robot mode they are to somewhat imitate the look of his hands from the show, but it seems to be pretty poor job at doing either one because now they just look like they gave him wolverine's claws.

By pointing out that they forgot to rotate the feet I was pointing out that they changed his Transformation. putting his robot arms into his Dino chest.
And have a look at this thread: as it shows you that those are his Show accurate hands and not Dinoribs because upwards pointing ribs would be retarded.