Caelus wrote:Why the difference between the SDCC exclusive and the Botcon exclusives?
I'm going to disregard everything you said there because your last statement reveals that you don't really have a grasp of the production costs, numbers, or what you get for your money at BotCon.
It's economy of scale. The cost difference between the 1,100-1,500 of any given figure made for BotCon is significant even for the lower production runs of 5,000 or so for SDCC.
A small production run of shelf stock toys is around 10,000. Usual runs are 3-5x that.
Now, all that aside. I am severely disappointed in your argument for bringing up Thundercracker. You seem to be well versed in Transformers and toys. I would have a hard time believing that in the past 2 years you have not at some point or another hear the explanations from both Hasbro and Fun Publications that Classics was OVER at the time Thundercracker was designed. There weren't supposed to be ANY Thundercracker toys made. Hasbro was wrong about Classics and its success. It happens. The facts are the facts though.
Now, ranting and rolling aside, let's run with Thundercracker. The 2007 BotCon set cost $275 for FIVE figures. 1 Voyager and 4 Deluxe figures...let's split that cost up evenly and we've got exclusives at $55 a piece.
Now, if you go to the convention, that $275 includes everything...BotCon, dealer room, panels, dinner, and toys. Not everyone can go to the show, so FP did something UNPRECEDENTED for BotCon, they allow for people to order non-attending sets.
Before FP, you had to be there and if you weren't you payed secondary market prices.
BotCon and exclusives are more available to average collectors than EVER before.
And if you're willing to pay that much (any at all) for the opportunity to get off on the knowledge that other people have been needlessly deprived of the item in question, then frankly I don't actually want to have anything to do with you. I'm sorry, but the honest truth is I find that sort of person to be... well I'm sure you can fill in the blanks. Not the sort of person I want to share space with, we'll put it that way.
What are we dealing with here? Are we not adults who understand the differences between needs and wants?
I'd rather play to win, have the things I want, and not have to make excuses for my situation. You can try to vilify me as I enjoy my exclusive toys and the means to gather them, but honestly, I wouldn't notice...
You see, people without the necessary means to get the toys have already contacted me and I'm helping them by getting the toys that they otherwise wouldn't be able to travel for.
I guess I'm a dick, but every year I've helped out people to make sure they can either go or have access to these toys at their Convention Retail prices.