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News Credits: 10 · Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:50 am

I like this repaint. The paint scheme seems more realistic and keeps inline with the tone of the movie. I'll be getting this one.

Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:18 am

heh--well...I'd rather go back and watch the G1 show instead of that stupid animated garbage.

wraith

News Credits: 1 · Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:25 am

I liked the Universe version. I thought i wouldn't like it, but it is rather good.

News Credits: 1 · Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:51 pm

I liked the FAB version, this one, not so much.

Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:17 pm

unless its simply a different color scheme of the same character (like G1 colors for movie character etc..) and not supposed to be a new character altogether, i'll never understand the point of repaints.

you're telling me the company is so cheap that it wont bother to create a new design? they'd rather just repaint an existing one and pretend its someone else?

i can understand doing this for similar looking characters like bumblebee/cliffjumper or starscream and the other jets but otherwise....its just silly.

News Credits: 198 · Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:22 pm

God god Hasbro, no! If you're going to give us a repaint, do it right!

Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:20 am

Bouncy X wrote:unless its simply a different color scheme of the same character (like G1 colors for movie character etc..) and not supposed to be a new character altogether, i'll never understand the point of repaints.

you're telling me the company is so cheap that it wont bother to create a new design? they'd rather just repaint an existing one and pretend its someone else?

i can understand doing this for similar looking characters like bumblebee/cliffjumper or starscream and the other jets but otherwise....its just silly.

So Bluestreak and Smokescreen should have been nothing but new versions of Prowl ("Undercover Prowl" and "Racetrack Prowl" maybe)?

And Thundercracker and Skywarp just new decos of Starscream ("Nightflight Starscream" and "Purple Rain" Starscream perhaps)?

There is no Frenzy and Rumble - there's only Fremble, and he comes in BOTH red and blue! And there's only Lasersaw, who is both red and orange!

Seriously, 'new character' repaints are pretty much tradition. And I'd actually rather buy a 'new character' repaint than a 'redecoed old character' repaint.

News Credits: 1 · Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:31 am

Valandar wrote:
Bouncy X wrote:unless its simply a different color scheme of the same character (like G1 colors for movie character etc..) and not supposed to be a new character altogether, i'll never understand the point of repaints.

you're telling me the company is so cheap that it wont bother to create a new design? they'd rather just repaint an existing one and pretend its someone else?

i can understand doing this for similar looking characters like bumblebee/cliffjumper or starscream and the other jets but otherwise....its just silly.

So Bluestreak and Smokescreen should have been nothing but new versions of Prowl ("Undercover Prowl" and "Racetrack Prowl" maybe)?

And Thundercracker and Skywarp just new decos of Starscream ("Nightflight Starscream" and "Purple Rain" Starscream perhaps)?

There is no Frenzy and Rumble - there's only Fremble, and he comes in BOTH red and blue! And there's only Lasersaw, who is both red and orange!

Seriously, 'new character' repaints are pretty much tradition. And I'd actually rather buy a 'new character' repaint than a 'redecoed old character' repaint.

And to also help support the repaint issue, let's see a show of hands from all those of you who fit into Hasbros target demographic for these toys. Let's see, that would be...practically none of you!
Ask those who DO fall into that demographic how they feel about repaints and you'll find out that the majority don't give a rats ass so long as they get a new toy. Habro isn't stupid, they know where the real money is. We collectors may be louder than the kids but we are fewer in number.
Don't know why everyone is complaining about this figure anyway, it was so blatantly a custom job. We aren't going to see this in mass production. Not unless Hasbro has started doing repaints in somebodys garage because the flaws in the paint application are glaringly obvious! #-o

News Credits: 1 · Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:21 pm

They could have given him a new head mold at least.

News Credits: 1 · Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:55 pm

It's a shame the Jazz mold didn't get a revamp like the Starscream mold did.

The colours on this thing really don't say Smokescreen to me, what an uninspired effort.

News Credits: 9 · Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:07 pm

It is official. I give up on the ROTF line totally.

Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:17 am

Sheesh....Jazz was supposed to be dead. Show the poor guy some respect and let his mold die in peace. In G1, Jazz had his own mold not the same as Prowl, Bluestreak, and Smokescreen. These toys come from the same country that gave us microchips the size of a pin...Is it really too much trouble for them to design more molds...lol

News Credits: 1 · Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:23 pm

I wouldn't rate us collectors so low in the buying scale. When i was a kid my transformers collection was only 15 figures, most of them KOs. Now, as a collecting adult, i have over 100 figures and it will increase. Kids these days will get the random figure each year; collectors on the other hand will try to get every single figure available.

Don't get me wrong, i like the Jazz toy, but i wouldn't buy Smokescreen because i already have three movie Jazz figures (original, allspark blue and G1 redeco). Besides, the Universe Smokescreen was great, therefore this one looks like a poor effort.

Will it be bought by the hurried father for his kids' birthday ? Yeah, of course. But i can't imagine BBTS buying whole containers of these figures expecting to sell them all. So, a few of them will be sold, and in 20 years they will a thousand dollar worth rarity. So get one now ! :lol:

Tue Apr 14, 2009 4:52 pm

Megatron_Wolf wrote: If it comes with the premium weapon then ill get it since i never got that version. Ill wait and see. As of now its a maybe.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I saw this figure in package on another forum and he comes with that lame telescoping thingee that the first issue Jazz came with, not Final Battle Jazz's wicked film accurate cannon. This repaint would have been at least somewhat appealing if Hasbro had at least thrown in the better weapon.

Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:30 pm

Uber Galvatron wrote:A repaint!?
Not a very good one either but still ANOTHER FREAKIN' REPAINT!
Both the previous movie line and (by the looks of things) the ROTF toyline aren't even trying anymore. They only release around 10-15 new molds and then repaint them all in different schemes and sometimes even retool them a little to pose them as either G1 repaints of themselves or as other characters.

THEN the movie line decided to take previous molds from other toylines and, you guessed it, repaint them aswell. A good move in general for those that didn't get the opportunity to buy that specific mold, but I fail to count it as new as all it is, is a repaint.

From what i've seen the Constructicons are a big let down, Megatron is passable, Optimus looks ok but needs a gun, Jetfire is hideous and probably the only new figure I am looking for to is The Fallen himself
*sigh* and they are cancelling Animated for THIS

Sideswipe looks cool though!

Mon May 25, 2009 2:09 am

can anyone tell me if they are releasing the Jazz Deluxe again...I dont care if its not a new mold...illl take the old one...plz, just PLZ TELL ME THEY ARE RELEASING JAZZ AGAIN!!! :sad:

News Credits: 2 · Mon May 25, 2009 9:48 am

Here we go again down repaint road and another figure that wont be in the movie im sure of it and the colors are sickening...ewww

Makes me wonder if hasbro reads this forum or knows how we really feel... :-?