The Energon Pub

[Shortround_]

You do make good points there, but if the Leader Class Blackout is well made i am sure there will be enough sales generated by TF collectors alone.

Also Blackout did more than just get his face ripped apart, remember in TF1 he completely wrecked a military base.

Now someone will probably slap me over the head for that and say "he's not Blackout, he is Grindor". Well he looks exactly the same and no name is given in the movie so i will just go ahead and assume he is the same character and they resurrected him like they did with Megatron

I so agree with DMSL I just assumed, like many other people that if the decepticons revived megatron on the ocean floor, they would also revive Blackout. But if it is a different bot then there is almost no obvious difference between the two. But they'll probably end up making a leader blackout if starscream doesn't steal the spot. Gonna end up getting the twins( no matter how terrible the bot modes are) and longhaul only if there isn't a bonecrusher for this line.

[prowl123]

The only one up there thatI dont want is Dead End. His head is too Cybertron Red Alert for me.

[Superior Prime09]

Long Haul and the Twins, maybe Grindor-since I liked him in the game. Good thing i didn't buy the two pack at TRU, big disappoint to realize that wasn't Grindor.













Oh got Scalpel, Dune Runner, Smokescreen and Interrorgator Barricade. And Ratchet and Cannon Bumblebee. Going to see TF: RoTF tomorrow!

[cannonfodder4000]

im definetly getting long haul the twins im also getting two dead ends and repaint them as runabout and runamuck
maybe jolt

[Sabrblade]

You do make good points there, but if the Leader Class Blackout is well made i am sure there will be enough sales generated by TF collectors alone.

Also Blackout did more than just get his face ripped apart, remember in TF1 he completely wrecked a military base.

Now someone will probably slap me over the head for that and say "he's not Blackout, he is Grindor". Well he looks exactly the same and no name is given in the movie so i will just go ahead and assume he is the same character and they resurrected him like they did with Megatron

I so agree with DMSL I just assumed, like many other people that if the decepticons revived megatron on the ocean floor, they would also revive Blackout. But if it is a different bot then there is almost no obvious difference between the two. But they'll probably end up making a leader blackout if starscream doesn't steal the spot. Gonna end up getting the twins( no matter how terrible the bot modes are) and longhaul only if there isn't a bonecrusher for this line.

But the first movie showed Blackout to be (dark) blue, and the chopper in this film was definitely gray.

Plus, the Cons only had one All spark shard, and it was put in Megatron only, like how Sam's shard was sucked into Jetfire.

And if it were Blackout, don'tcha think he would have parts from other Cons on him like they had to do with Megs?

[Blurrz]

I just don't think people get it. The probability of a 5th Leader is astoundingly low. First of all, we've already got Leader Starscream under production. We've also got the likelyhood of the 3 existing Leader Classes, Megatron, Optimus and Jetfire being repainted 1-2 times. Take into consideration the economy and the fact that there's something even bigger (Supreme Devastator), I'm frankly sure Hasbro's going to be reluctant to invest in the bigger Class sizes. Also, I don't see Blackout really selling well as a Leader Class. The only reason RotF Jetfire is getting any action is because he combines with Prime. Prime is Prime, he'll always be bought. Megatron is Megatron... always will be bought. Starscream is a fan favorite , no matter what line he's in. Going back to the 2007 Movie, Brawl's Deluxe version was nuked, so the Leader was well receipted. Blackout..... I just don't see it selling very well. Yeah, there will be a fan base buying it, but not exactly everyone will in the fanbase. I've got money problems, we all do. No way in hell I'm dishing out around $250 on Leader Class figures, where most of the figures have a Voyager Class Version already. And think about it... what will the difference between the Leader and Voyager class be? Okay, they add guns to Blackout. It's a freaking helicopter, and that type of alternate mode is already semi-dimensional. Whether it's Blackout/Grindor, it's died two times. And Dead TFs that don't combine to other transformers, or aren't well known will not sell well.

[Wolfman Jake]

All of these upcoming deluxes and voyagers look like worthy purchases.

Jolt: I love blue cars, and Jolt looks very cool in bot mode as well.

Blazemaster: News chopper alt mode? Awesome.

Ice Cream Truck Twins: Looks goofy as heck, but again, an alt mode never really seen before in Transformers.

Dead End: I like the Sideways mold, and this repaint looks a lot more interesting than the solid silver with scant few black highlights for alt-mode that Sideways received.

Grindor: I know a lot of people are underwhelmed by the 2007 Blackout mold, but I've always liked it quite a bit. This color scheme is fantastic as well.

Long Haul: Probably the Constructicon I've been looking forward to the most. Great looking alt-mode and a much more traditional looking bot mode for a Bayformer Constructicon.

[Cyber Bishop]

I will most likely pick up Long Haul and Jolt.

[prowl123]

All of these besides the Robot Heroes and that stealth bumblebee thing are worthy to be in my house. The twins are going to be, like, legends sized! I don't care what anyone says, I am getting blaze master!

[Firebird]

Those robot heroes will be mine!

Also I'm going to get Long Haul and maybe Jolt the Volt.

[Shortround_]

Just went and watched the review for the ice cream truck twins and boy these bots look a hundred times better when you can see them in a video and not a tiny picture. They are really funny and neat and are gonna be hard to keep on the shelves or major shelf warmers. Definately gonna pick a couple up. "Decepticon come git yo ice cream... or yo ass wuppin."

[cybercat]

Just from his bio alone I think I'm in love with Dead End. He's like my soul mate or something (sniff).

I agree with Blurrz--unlikely to see a Blackout Leader class, though I would be one of the people who would buy it. And love it. And pet it. Still, I can't resist the idea (yea, even the very idea!) of a Leader Class Starscream.

Robot heroes, will probably be mine. What can I say, I like cute.

HK, cute? I eat cute for breakfast!

[GuyIncognito]

Has anyone seen these in retail in the U.S. yet? Or know when we can expect to see them?

[Blurrz]

Yikes.. as news crew I should know this spot on.. XD

I think it's generally looking to be an August-October release range.

And like always, even more unseen repaints/remolds and new molds will arrive before/after Christmas for the Winter Holidays, like the previous Movie.

When it comes to Leader Starscream... its' going to be the BOMB

[Shortround_]

I think a few of these have already hit the shelves because if you check them in the sightings listings a few have already been found in stores. I guess it all depends on where you live. I havent been able to get my hands on the twins yet, but they will soon be mine . Can't imagine them repainting a few of these guys.

[Tyrannotaur]

The Ice Cream Twins, Jolt, Long Haul and Blaze Master will be purchased. Blaze Master because I love his Alt Mode. News Chopper= unique and creative. Plus once in robot mode he reminds alot of Beast Machines Sky Dive who I like alot, (I should dig him outta the attic).

Leader Starscream I'll have to see first. I already have two of him..

Grindor is debatable. I like the character. Him and Blackout have one of the coolest looking robot modes in the movie. I just wish they made a new toy completely. I understand the possibility of a Leader Class Grindor/ Blackout is slim to none, But I'd like that alot more personally. Especially if it was as movie accurate as Leader Optimus from ROTF, or at least as cool as Jetfire is. If he combined with Megatron or something then I could see a leader class.
If a leader isn't going to happen, I would have liked a new Voyager sculpt. Being gray and having a new head sculpt isn't worth me buying him again.. No matter if he is a new character or not.

[Heatwave]

long haul is definitely the best mold. you gotta see the HQ pics they have on the internet.

[Shortround_]

long haul is definitely the best mold. you gotta see the HQ pics they have on the internet.

Looks alot like brawl... I hope these guys are available towards the end of July.

[cybercat]

Has anyone seen these in retail in the U.S. yet? Or know when we can expect to see them?

Some are out now I think. I *think*, because I just got the Scout Dead End. Is that the only one they're making of him? If so, it is confusing because he is red. Still cute as all heck. Though his hands pop off like it's not even funny (except it is).

Can someone non-confused help?

HK, confused.

[Giant Purple Griffin]

Some are out now I think. I *think*, because I just got the Scout Dead End. Is that the only one they're making of him? If so, it is confusing because he is red. Still cute as all heck. Though his hands pop off like it's not even funny (except it is).

Can someone non-confused help?

HK, confused.

Nah, that's a different figure. I guess in some markets the Scout is named Detour, but in the US he is called Dead End. He is a completely different toy and character than the deluxe Dead End (who is a redeco of Deluxe Sideways).

[Blurrz]

Nah, Scout Dead End is a Wave 1 release... was from way back in June. We're talking about Deluxe Dead End here, a repaint of Deluxe Sideways. If you're looking for a repaint of Scout Dead End, he's being repainted teal.

[Kibble]

Going back to the 2007 Movie, Brawl's Deluxe version was nuked, so the Leader was well receipted.

I personally don't think they'll do a leader Blackout/Grindor figure either, but I don't get how one would be any less appealing than Brawl was other than maybe the current economy...