The Energon Pub

[Skowl]

eBay seller tfctoy has posted an auction giving us our first look at an individually-packed battle-damaged Arcee figure from the Transformers Movie toyline. The figure had been previously available in a Sam's Club exclusive 3-pack with Starscream and battle-damaged Voyager Prime seen here. Now the figure is available seperately. No word yet on what retail chain will carry this exclusive figure.

See the auction by clicking here.

[Sentinel Pax]

Really? Really? Come on. Another (slight) redeco of the same mold? Ppppptttt! I can't believe they're postponing Animated for crap like this.

[Talous]

I find myself waiting for the black redeco of Arcee. A few scratches painted on won't make this one a must buy for me.

[Megatron Wolf]

I dont care about the box i want to see the figure. I want to see this so called "battle damage". Most likely its just new paint. I doubt there are any re-molded parts like they did with Jazz.

[Agent 007]

lame think harder hasblow

[First Gen]

Battle damage??? She wasn't even in the movie. How can she have battle damage???

[Autobot032]

And people say I'm wrong for saying that Hasbro is suffering from greed disease.

What point do they have (other than to milk everything for all it's worth) for making this figure? Especially after it was an exclusive elsewhere...

I realize they need filler to keep the line going and they weren't expecting demand to become what it has, but this is beyond good taste.

[Nekoman]

Does this remind anyone else of that individually carded two pack classics Megatron we saw some time ago?

[Maximum Burn]

Wait, so...I bought the Sam's club Exclusive for nothing? It had better be the same battle damage scheme...

[Nekoman]

Wait, so...I bought the Sam's club Exclusive for nothing? It had better be the same battle damage scheme...

There hasn’t been any pics of Prime yet, now has there? Plus you get a better value buying them in the three pack rather than individually.

[Maximum Burn]

No the battle damage seems different from the Sam's club one...*sighs*. I'll need reviews on this one before getting it.

[Bouncy X]

a battle damaged version of a movie character that wasnt even in the movie? yeah....that isnt pointless at all lol

[docbenspock]

I find myself waiting for the black redeco of Arcee. A few scratches painted on won't make this one a must buy for me.

THIS! the pink is just horrid. and this "battle damaged" is just dirty pink. the black will be brilliant. hell she was black in the movie too at least the bike that was slid under Blackout was. eh but then again Hasbro seems to almost never do the oblivious and best option. eh i think i'm just bitter about waiting for Animated to release.

[Bumblebee-otch]

super-easy pass.

[Liege Evilmus]

And people say I'm wrong for saying that Hasbro is suffering from greed disease.

Wait someone doubted that

They must not know that TFs are the second class red headed step daughter of the Hasbro family. It doesn't matter how good they do, it'll never be as good as the shelf warming other lines they produce.

Now I know it's good busness to belt out product with as little effort as possible. But the constant repaints of figures that are far beyond tired is rediculious.

At least give us a retool, but no, that would be work, and they why should they have to do that

So long as there are parents, grandparents, and other people that'll unknowingly buy whatever for junior, and collectors who need to have all 57 variants of Jazz, and 300 Strongarms all MSIB they'll keep turning profit instead of new product.

There was an old saying it went something like "The easiest way for the villanious man to prosper, is for the just man to do nothing"

Voice you're opinion and hope to educate as apose to berate, and hopefuly voices heard will bring either change or sweet death quickly.

[Jaz-Zen]

And people say I'm wrong for saying that Hasbro is suffering from greed disease.

All the stuff Autobot32 just said.

Well, wait a second. Did you hear the news from, like, last month, that Universe/Classic 2.0 actually WON'T have straight repaints, that the repaints WILL be remolds, etc.?

So, yeah, I think Hasbro is milking the Movie for all they can, but things will be different next year.

Now, of course, they could milk the 2nd Movie for all they can, too, but maybe Hasbro won't go back to doing so many straight repaints, and will continue to do even slight remolds in lines other than Universe/Classic 2.0. Here's hoping, anyway.

[Cascadia]

Thanks but no thanks on that one.

[Orion_Prime48]

Mmm maybe a buy if I have the cash dont have Arcee yet

[Autobot032]

And people say I'm wrong for saying that Hasbro is suffering from greed disease.

All the stuff Autobot32 just said.

Well, wait a second. Did you hear the news from, like, last month, that Universe/Classic 2.0 actually WON'T have straight repaints, that the repaints WILL be remolds, etc.?

So, yeah, I think Hasbro is milking the Movie for all they can, but things will be different next year.

Now, of course, they could milk the 2nd Movie for all they can, too, but maybe Hasbro won't go back to doing so many straight repaints, and will continue to do even slight remolds in lines other than Universe/Classic 2.0. Here's hoping, anyway.

It wouldn't be the first time Hasbro's plan didn't work out as well...planned.

I'm hoping for good news in the C/U 2.0 and Animated lines. (even though I won't be collecting the latter, I'd still like to see the fans of it not get a bum deal like all of us have with the Movie line...)

I'll admit, anything is possible and Hasbro could be 110% honest here and they'll actually come through, but why not milk it if they can? (and they will)

I know, it sounds like I'm ungrateful (and I swear I'm not. I do appreciate everything they've given us) but it's ridiculous at this point. Repaints, remolds, repacks, etc....

That's not a toy line, that's a business model that unfortunately works all too well. (otherwise they wouldn't continue to do it.)

Everyone wanted Big Daddy (I'm not one of those, btw...) and I'm glad they got him. Beyond him, however...this is ridiculous.

Battle damaged Arcee (who wasn't even in the friggin' movie!)
F.A.B. repaints
Deluxe Class Allspark Power/Premium line repaints (I'm still scratchin' my head over the Premium line being repainted with horrid blue paint, yet it's not actually part of the Allspark Power line....)
Etc...etc...

Original molds...let's go over the list, shall we?

Real Gear
1.) Booster X10
2.) High Score 100
3.) Longview
4.) Meantime
5.) Powerup VT6
6.) Speed Dial 800
7.) Spy Shot 6
8.) Zoom Out 25X

Deluxe
9.) Arcee
10.) Barricade
11.) Bonecrusher
12.) Brawl
13.) Bumblebee (1976 Camaro)
14.) Bumblebee (2009 Camaro Concept)
15.) Dreadwing
16.) Dropkick
17.) Landmine
18.) Longarm
19.) Jazz
20.) Optimus Prime (Preview Protoform)
21.) Payload
22.) Scorponok
23.) Starscream (Preview Protoform)
24.) Stockade
25.) Swindle
26.) Wreckage

Voyager
27.) Blackout
28.) Incinerator
29.) Ironhide
30.) Megatron
31.) Optimus Prime
32.) Ratchet
33.) Starscream

Leader Class
34.) Brawl
35.) Megatron
36.) Optimus Prime

Legends
37.) Barricade
38.) Blackout
39.) Bonecrusher
40.) Bumblebee
41.) Ironhide
42.) Jazz
43.) Megatron
44.) Optimus Prime
45.) Ratchet
46.) Starscream

Fast Action Battlers
47.) Barricade
48.) Blackout
49.) Brawl
50.) Bumblebee
51.) Frenzy
52.) Ironhide
53.) Jazz
54.) Megatron
55.) Optimus Prime
56.) Ratchet
57.) Starscream

Considering how long they've stretched this out, the repaints, remolds, etc...not a lot of new molds. Especially when compared to other lines of the past.

I didn't include Unleashed, Robot Replicas or Heroes because they don't transform. I also didn't include remolds such as Thundercracker because a remolded head or limb just isn't enough to classify it as a new mold.

I finally decided to start listing my collection by each individual mold (because it's starting to become quite big and I'm losing count...) and I noticed that if you count every Mini-Con, Basic, Deluxe, etc...Armada alone has over 75 individual molds.
Energon and Cybertron, the same.

The Movie line has gotten the shaft here (especially Bonecrusher...) and well...it sucks.

Filling it up with repaints (from long dead lines, no less!) and remolds (crappy ones I might add!) doesn't make it the best choice. I realize they've got to make money on this, but if you count how much they've made on just the original molds of this line...I'm sure they made close to their initial investment. They've definitely made well over that by now.

US, UK, China, Japan, Australia, etc...all of them have Movie line figures and they're selling out left and right. By this point, they're just using those molds like the town doorknob. (everyone gets a turn)

Ridiculous.

[Maximum Burn]

FB Jazz don't count? I think a different mold...

[Liege Evilmus]

And people say I'm wrong for saying that Hasbro is suffering from greed disease.

All the stuff Autobot32 just said.

Well, wait a second. Did you hear the news from, like, last month, that Universe/Classic 2.0 actually WON'T have straight repaints, that the repaints WILL be remolds, etc.?

So, yeah, I think Hasbro is milking the Movie for all they can, but things will be different next year.

Now, of course, they could milk the 2nd Movie for all they can, too, but maybe Hasbro won't go back to doing so many straight repaints, and will continue to do even slight remolds in lines other than Universe/Classic 2.0. Here's hoping, anyway.

Hey, please do me a favor and don't take something I said in on thread and post in in another.

That's twisting my words and it's not apreciated.

Now I do agree that the constant repaints have to be brought under control.

And yes, Classics 2.0 like Classics 1 should be pretty much new molds, but it's a filler line, nothing more.

Besides we should expect new molds in a new line, as apose to fell lucky to get them. This is a fact in any consumer market.

Now the movie has been repainted beyond any good taste, but does anyone also remember that nearly all of the second year of the Cybertron run was nearly all repaints.

Hell I can still find them on my shelves.

Yes repaints are cost effective, but they should never be a replacement for the work that goes into a retool or remold.

And again, please stop misquoting me. What I origionaly said to Autobo032 in this thread is statement enough for here.

[mechajol]

wow. she didn't appear in the movie and now she's battle damaged.