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Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Fender Bender » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:27 am

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SAN FRANCISCO - One of the three victims of San Francisco Zoo tiger attack was intoxicated and admitted to yelling and waving at the animal while standing atop the railing of the big cat enclosure, police said in court documents filed Thursday.

Paul Dhaliwal, 19, told the father of Carlos Sousa Jr., 17, who was killed, that the three yelled and waved at the tiger but insisted they never threw anything into its pen to provoke the cat, according to a search warrant affidavit obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle.

"As a result of this investigation, (police believe) that the tiger may have been taunted/agitated by its eventual victims," according to Inspector Valerie Matthews, who prepared the affidavit. Police believe that "this factor contributed to the tiger escaping from its enclosure and attacking its victims," she said.

Sousa's father, Carlos Sousa Sr., said Dhaliwal told him the three stood on a 3-foot-tall metal railing a few feet from the edge of the tiger moat. "When they got down they heard a noise in the bushes, and the tiger was jumping out of the bushes on him (Paul Dhaliwal)," the documents said.

Police found a partial shoe print that matched Paul Dhaliwal's on top of the railing, Matthews said in the documents.

The papers said Paul Dhaliwal told Sousa that no one was dangling his legs over the enclosure. Authorities believe the tiger leaped or climbed out of the enclosure, which had a wall 4 feet shorter than the recommended minimum.

The affidavit also cites multiple reports of a group of young men taunting animals at the zoo, the Chronicle reported.

Mark Geragos, an attorney for the Dhaliwal brothers, did not immediately return a call late Thursday by The Associated Press for comment. He has repeatedly said they did not taunt the tiger.

Calls to Sousa and Michael Cardoza, an attorney for the Sousa family, also weren't returned.

Toxicology results for Dhaliwal showed that his blood alcohol level was 0.16 - twice the legal limit for driving, according to the affidavit. His 24-year-old brother, Kulbir, and Sousa also had alcohol in their blood but within the legal limit, Matthews wrote.

All three also had marijuana in their systems, Matthews said. Kulbir Dhaliwal told police that the three had smoked pot and each had "a couple shots of vodka" before leaving San Jose for the zoo on Christmas Day, the affidavit said.

Police found a small amount of marijuana in Kulbir Dhaliwal's 2002 BMW, which the victims rode to the zoo, as well as a partially filled bottle of vodka, according to court documents.

Investigators also recovered messages and images from the cell phones, but apparently nothing incriminating in connection with the tiger attack, the Chronicle reported.

Zoo spokesman Sam Singer said he had not seen the documents but believed the victims did taunt the animal, even though they claim they hadn't.

"Those brothers painted a completely different picture to the public and the press," Singer said. "Now it's starting to come out that what they said is not true."


Stupid kid gets drunk. Stupid kid taunts tiger. Stupid kid gets eaten by tiger. Any questions?
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Mkall » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:18 am

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...Why is it that the only question that come to my mind is what was the alcohol/blood level of the Tiger after consuming the drunk kid?
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Archanubis » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:59 am

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So, this poor unfortunate animal who the police had to shoot to death was guilty of nothing more than justifiable homicide?

Figures.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby DISCHARGE » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:33 am

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Thunderscream wrote:So, this poor unfortunate animal who the police had to shoot to death was guilty of nothing more than justifiable homicide?

Figures.



Seriously, killing is justified if someone is pointing at you?
That's just poor taste. I bet they had good weed too. :(
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Archanubis » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:37 am

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Thunderscream wrote:So, this poor unfortunate animal who the police had to shoot to death was guilty of nothing more than justifiable homicide?

Figures.



Seriously, killing is justified if someone is pointing at you?
That's just poor taste. I bet they had good weed too. :(

According to that article, they were apparently doing more than just pointing at the cat.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Grahf » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:37 am

Motto: "The only cure for stupidity is death."
If you are stupid ebough to provoke an attack like that, by all means you should be considered tiger chow. Its always the animal that is acting the way nature intended that ends up paying. At least one of the three won't be making any contributions to the gene pool.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Rogue. » Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:45 am

Grahf wrote:If you are stupid ebough to provoke an attack like that, by all means you should be considered tiger chow. Its always the animal that is acting the way nature intended that ends up paying. At least one of the three won't be making any contributions to the gene pool.


My thoughts as well. Survival of the fittest. The tiger was more fit to live than the moron taunting it.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Moonbase2 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:11 am

Seriously! Taunting a tiger? Couldn't they go taunt the meerkats instead? Idiots.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Senor Hugo » Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:27 am

Poor tiger. It's like that lady who was assaulted by the polar bear, for being too damn close to the cage.

If you can't kill an animal with your bare hands, you have no right to taunt the sucker, and deserve your fate.

They should give that tiger a posthumous medal for the betterment of mankind.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:06 am

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So they got drunk, and taunted a tiger.

A tiger. A 600 pound predator, born to hunt down and kill anything it can mark as "Food."

These dipshits got what they deserved.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby DesalationReborn » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:20 am

Senor Hugo wrote:Poor tiger. It's like that lady who was assaulted by the polar bear, for being too damn close to the cage.

If you can't kill an animal with your bare hands, you have no right to taunt the sucker, and deserve your fate.

They should give that tiger a posthumous medal for the betterment of mankind.


Probably not with bear hands, but definitly bear arms... those grizzlies are ripped.

You must be happy about this though, SH.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Sherade » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:21 pm

Shadowman wrote:So they got drunk, and taunted a tiger.

A tiger. A 600 pound predator, born to hunt down and kill anything it can mark as "Food."

These dipshits got what they deserved.

Yeah, they deserved this, but I'm disturbed by how unphased you all are at death. What if you knew them personally? What if you were related?
Drunk, yes, stupid yes, but dying is nothing to pass over so easily.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:46 pm

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Shadowman wrote:So they got drunk, and taunted a tiger.

A tiger. A 600 pound predator, born to hunt down and kill anything it can mark as "Food."

These dipshits got what they deserved.

Yeah, they deserved this, but I'm disturbed by how unphased you all are at death. What if you knew them personally? What if you were related?
Drunk, yes, stupid yes, but dying is nothing to pass over so easily.


When you taunt a being designed to kill, then you've signed your own death warrant. When it's an endangered species, then you're also an asshole. When you survive, but pretend that you didn't taunt it so no one would find out that you were drunk in public, holding marijuana, etc., then you've given up any reason of anyone to respect you.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Grahf » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:20 pm

Motto: "The only cure for stupidity is death."
Shadowman wrote:When you taunt a being designed to kill, then you've signed your own death warrant. When it's an endangered species, then you're also an asshole. When you survive, but pretend that you didn't taunt it so no one would find out that you were drunk in public, holding marijuana, etc., then you've given up any reason of anyone to respect you.


I couldn't have said it any better.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby HugeBadWolf » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:25 pm

Of course they were drunk, teasing a tiger's not the kind of thing you do sober...
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby Decatron » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:13 pm

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Fender Bender wrote:Stupid kid gets drunk. Stupid kid taunts tiger. Stupid kid gets eaten by tiger. Any questions?


YES, thats what I've been saying ever since that first report of taunting right after Christmas day. I live in the Bay Area CALI, and its impossible to get away from hearing more of it.
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Re: Big surprise: Tiger victims were drunk and provoking it

Postby tech348 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:14 pm

mosh wrote:
Fender Bender wrote:Stupid kid gets drunk. Stupid kid taunts tiger. Stupid kid gets eaten by tiger. Any questions?


YES, thats what I've been saying ever since that first report of taunting right after Christmas day. I live in the Bay Area CALI, and its impossible to get away from hearing more of it.


I to live in the bay area and agree with what most say the dumb@$% got what he deserves. What's going to piss me off though is these @$$holes sre going to sue and probably win in this ultra liberal area. My thinking is it never happened in the previous 30+ years so what changed, I'll tell you these punks thought they were tough shhh. and when the going got tough wah wah.
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