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Transformers Mosaic: "Hail and Farewell" Written by Furman and in Continuity.

Postby i_amtrunks » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:00 pm

The Universe of the Transformers is vast, and populated by many characters. Their universe is a large tapestry, made up of the stories and points of view of countless experiences that serve the larger whole.

These are some of those stories. This is:


It should be noted that while this project has been recognized by IDW Publishing and Hasbro, none of the works presented have been commissioned or solicited by either company. The stories are not official canon, except where noted.
These stories are the result of Transformers enthusiasts taking the time out of their busy days to contribute to a universe they love.
No one has been paid for the production of these stories.

"Hail and Farewell"

Written by SIMON FURMAN | Pencils and Colors by STEVE BUCCELLATO | Inks by DON HUDSON | Letters by RICHARD STARKINGS & COMICRAFT

This Mosaic piece is presented as part of official continuity.



As always, please post your thoughts, queries, questions and comments in the original Mosaic Thread. Further discussion of the implications of this in continuity Mosaic can be discussed in Seibertron's IDW-verse Theory and Discussion Page
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Postby mattyc1007 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:17 pm

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and thats headmasters for you. but its now depressed my brother as sunsteaker was his fav
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Postby Megatron Wolf » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:21 pm

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What comic is this based off of?
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Postby 1337W422102 » Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:34 pm

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Hmm, so that's what they did to him. I haven't read Devastation yet, but I was dying to know what happened to Hunter and Sunstreaker after Escalation.

Now I know, and knowing is half the battle!
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Postby NebulanFree » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:00 pm

Very nice.
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Postby Senor Hugo » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:41 pm

That is incredibly @#$%ed up.

And yet amazingly awesome.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic:

Postby First Gen » Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:48 pm

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WHOA!!!!

How the???


But???

I get it but I don't.


It makes sense but.....


My head hurts now.
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Postby Liege Evilmus » Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:30 pm

I forget who said it, it was a member here, but they called this happening in between one of the story arcs when these 2 went missing.

It's nice to see G1 characters move past the origional point. I also like the updated headmaster transformation, but the overall design does nothing for me.

I'm only realy critizisng since this is from Furman himself.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic:

Postby WhiteRabbit » Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:38 pm

This takes place about two years after Transformers: Devastation.
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Postby Grimshock » Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:45 pm

This is absolutely stupid. As if I didn't think that Furman was a terrible writer already. Now, he goes and makes up something like this. Really, can't this guy find something factual (as it relates to the TFverse) to write about rather than inventing junk.

No f'n wonder the movie writers decided to say screw it to using Furman as a resource for the plot. (Although, despite that, we still had a pretty plot-crappy movie. Wow, us TF fans are extremely challenged in finding good writers.)
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Re: Transformers Mosaic:

Postby WhiteRabbit » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:07 pm

Grimshock wrote:This is absolutely stupid. As if I didn't think that Furman was a terrible writer already. Now, he goes and makes up something like this. Really, can't this guy find something factual (as it relates to the TFverse) to write about rather than inventing junk.


Umm... I don't know what kind of assumptions you're making about this, but it takes place firmly within the continuity Furman's writing for IDW's TF comics. He "invents" for them full time, and this is one more part of it. So guess what, it's "factual". Sunstreaker and Hunter are a Headmaster combo.

I can't tell if you're just confused because you don't know anything about those storylines, but it sure comes across like someone out of the loop jumping to asinine conclusions.
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Postby dragons » Sat Feb 16, 2008 8:21 pm

didnt actuallt think we would see hed master mosiac anytime soon butthen again i was never fan of head masters to begin with humans and transformers combine to become one great art and story
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Postby Skice » Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:14 pm

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This is absolutely stupid. As if I didn't think that Furman was a terrible writer already. Now, he goes and makes up something like this. Really, can't this guy find something factual (as it relates to the TFverse) to write about rather than inventing junk.

No f'n wonder the movie writers decided to say screw it to using Furman as a resource for the plot. (Although, despite that, we still had a pretty plot-crappy movie. Wow, us TF fans are extremely challenged in finding good writers.)


Yeah sure Furman is a crappy writer and George W Bush is a good president. :roll:
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Postby Dclone Soundwave » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:38 am

Grimshock wrote:This is absolutely stupid. As if I didn't think that Furman was a terrible writer already. Now, he goes and makes up something like this. Really, can't this guy find something factual (as it relates to the TFverse) to write about rather than inventing junk.

No f'n wonder the movie writers decided to say screw it to using Furman as a resource for the plot. (Although, despite that, we still had a pretty plot-crappy movie. Wow, us TF fans are extremely challenged in finding good writers.)


WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??? Furman is one of the best writers that the TF community has. And this is is completely in comic context, continuity, & canon. Go read Escalation & Devastation & make a comment like this again.

Autobot420 wrote:Yeah sure Furman is a crappy writer and George W Bush is a good president.


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Postby Skice » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:32 am

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Grimshock wrote:This is absolutely stupid. As if I didn't think that Furman was a terrible writer already. Now, he goes and makes up something like this. Really, can't this guy find something factual (as it relates to the TFverse) to write about rather than inventing junk.

No f'n wonder the movie writers decided to say screw it to using Furman as a resource for the plot. (Although, despite that, we still had a pretty plot-crappy movie. Wow, us TF fans are extremely challenged in finding good writers.)


WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??? Furman is one of the best writers that the TF community has. And this is is completely in comic context, continuity, & canon. Go read Escalation & Devastation & make a comment like this again.

Autobot420 wrote:Yeah sure Furman is a crappy writer and George W Bush is a good president.


QFT. You win the thread.


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Postby starfish » Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:26 am

Must admit, I've never read anything from IDW before reading this (although i fondly recall Furman's stuff back since his original UK Marvel series)

But... Hunter ONION!!??

Makes the name Sparkplug Witwicky seem positively normal by comparison!
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Postby Grimshock » Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:34 am

I completely understand that it is in keeping with his prior material. What I'm saying is that it is all junk and none of it makes for official canon. Just because Furman writes it, doesn't mean it's factual that Sunstreaker and Hunter O'nion are a Headmaster combo. That's just horrible writing. (Also, agree that O'nion is about the stupidest name I have ever come across for a character. But, again, not surprised, it's Furman after all.)

Side note: It is amazing how there are always such weak points made against the person when there is someone who disagrees with the majority. Actually, I think Bush is a terrible president. One of the worst ever. You didn't take the time to learn about my opinion on that, but, yet, use it to argue against me. Anyway, this is very, very common in these threads.

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Postby WhiteRabbit » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:56 pm

Grimshock wrote:I completely understand that it is in keeping with his prior material. What I'm saying is that it is all junk and none of it makes for official canon. Just because Furman writes it, doesn't mean it's factual that Sunstreaker and Hunter O'nion are a Headmaster combo. That's just horrible writing. (Also, agree that O'nion is about the stupidest name I have ever come across for a character. But, again, not surprised, it's Furman after all.)


So the material Furman writes for the official, licensed-by-Hasbro Transformers comics is not canon eh? OK, I get it. You're just in a snit because you don't particularly care for the events taking place in that continuity (which is as much canon as any other comic series or show), so you're imposing your own WAHnon (IE- "none of this is happening!") as if fact. Ok, fair enough I guess.

Grimshock wrote:Side note: It is amazing how there are always such weak points made against the person when there is someone who disagrees with the majority. Actually, I think Bush is a terrible president. One of the worst ever. You didn't take the time to learn about my opinion on that, but, yet, use it to argue against me. Anyway, this is very, very common in these threads.


The poster in question here was not making any statement as to your feelings on Dubya at all. He was comparing the validity of the statement that Furman can't write to the validity of Dubya being a great president. Has nothing to do with what YOU feel about Dubya. It's called an analogy. But I shouldn't need to tell you that, you already know everything about writing. ;)

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Aye, like a house of cards. (Oh, that's called a simile by the way. I don't mean to imply you live in an actual house of cards.) :)
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Postby WhiteRabbit » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:02 pm

Oh, and Sunstreaker being forced to share an existence and consciousness with a form of life he had utter contempt for is actually good writing, by the way. :P

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Postby 1337W422102 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:22 pm

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starfish wrote:Must admit, I've never read anything from IDW before reading this (although i fondly recall Furman's stuff back since his original UK Marvel series)

But... Hunter ONION!!??

Makes the name Sparkplug Witwicky seem positively normal by comparison!

It's O'NION.
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Postby Matt D » Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:05 pm

Thanks the for spoiler warning.
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Re: Transformers Mosaic:

Postby Dreadwind » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:41 am

Grimshock wrote:This is absolutely stupid. As if I didn't think that Furman was a terrible writer already. Now, he goes and makes up something like this. Really, can't this guy find something factual (as it relates to the TFverse) to write about rather than inventing junk.

No f'n wonder the movie writers decided to say screw it to using Furman as a resource for the plot. (Although, despite that, we still had a pretty plot-crappy movie. Wow, us TF fans are extremely challenged in finding good writers.)


Riiiiiiiight. Let's not forget that Furman created much of the canon we hold dear, such as Grimlock being a badass (and not comic relief).

You might not like Furman's writing style, but you can't deny that at the very least he gives us well-rounded and thought-out characters, with motivations and depth, as opposed to say, the cartoon and certain Marvel writers of the past, who gaves us nothing more than interchangable, generic characterisations.

Personally, I love Furman, and I loved this.

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Postby 1337W422102 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:42 am

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Dreadwind wrote:
Grimshock wrote:This is absolutely stupid. As if I didn't think that Furman was a terrible writer already. Now, he goes and makes up something like this. Really, can't this guy find something factual (as it relates to the TFverse) to write about rather than inventing junk.

No f'n wonder the movie writers decided to say screw it to using Furman as a resource for the plot. (Although, despite that, we still had a pretty plot-crappy movie. Wow, us TF fans are extremely challenged in finding good writers.)


Riiiiiiiight. Let's not forget that Furman created much of the canon we hold dear, such as Grimlock being a badass (and not comic relief).

You might not like Furman's writing style, but you can't deny that at the very least he gives us well-rounded and thought-out characters, with motivations and depth, as opposed to say, the cartoon and certain Marvel writers of the past, who gaves us nothing more than interchangable, generic characterisations.

Personally, I love Furman, and I loved this.

Go Simon!

Plus, he wrote for Alpha Flight (Canada FTMFW) and created Death's Head, yes?
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Postby starfish » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:04 pm

1337W422102 wrote:It's O'NION.


Yeah, cos that apostrophe makes all the difference. So you'd also accept it if Sideswipe had a Headmaster companion called Dick L'Ameass? :wink:

Seriously guys, you should all lighten up.

To those who think it's rubbish - get a hold of yourselves! It's a one-page comic strip for godsakes. By its very nature it won't have the depth of, say, Target:2006. What are you expecting? Yes, the artwork is a bit lame, but you can't exactly blame that on Furman now, can you?

To those who talk of 'canon' - don't be such canon bullies. There's so much TF fiction out there (much of it self-contradictory) that we as readers should be free to make our own personal judgements as to what exactly constitutes canon. Is Unicron an ancient god from before time or a robot built by little Primacron? Do we take Goldbug's origins from the UK comic or the US GI-Joe story? Should we accept the events of G1 season 4 over the Japanese Headmasters/Masterforce/Victory trilogy?

In short - people should be free to choose what they want to accept as 'canon'. Just because it carries the rubber stamp of officialdom doesn't mean we have to take it at face value.

Until there's an official line like they have with Star Trek (TV and films = canon, Cartoon = not canon, Books = canon unless contradicted by TV and films) or Star Wars (everything released officially is canon), we'll just have to all make our own minds up. And if one person's idea of canon is different to another person's, then that's fine - there's no right or wrong here.

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