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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby xyl360 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:42 pm

I considered buying him many times and even had a preorder for the longest time originally. Then I saw the reviews, and while his fragility was a small concern, that's not why I ultimately cancelled the preorder and still have not purchased one. In my opinion, he just looks like crap in robot mode. He looks like an upscaled and slightly improved version of the original G1 toy. I expected much more from anything in the MP line. Even MP-01 with all of its flaws was way better than this.

I'm waiting for a new MP Megatron, and I expect that if it's handled anything like MP-10 was, it's going to blow the original MP Megs out of the water.

If it can be done, I believe Takara will do it, and I believe it can be done after seeing efforts like Hegemon.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Autobot032 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:35 am

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Own Hegemon and you'll quickly see why Masterpiece Megatron doesn't even come close. Hegemon gets so much right, while the Masterpiece doesn't. That being said, the kibble on Hegemon doesn't hide as well as it does on Masterpiece. I will give TakaraTomy their dues on that.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Bonecrusher27 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:49 am

Wow guys thanks a lot for your replies! Sure explains a lot.

I didn't buy it as an investment, so I'm not really upset about it, but pretty surprised. I just need to get rid of some toys to make more room.

As a quick thought: I've never really gotten into buying toys to sell. Sure the prices go up on eBay, but that's you and a hundred other sellers all trying to sell the same figure. Meanwhile you're holding stock, and there's the SPACE issue, which more often than not becomes the GIRLFRIEND/ WIFE issue :lol:
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby gavinfuzzy » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:01 am

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fenrir72 wrote:My advice for those who own one, Megatron that is, if you purchased him as an "investment". I recall a bendable stretchy toy in the 70s (not very sure if it reached the 80s) Stretch Armstrong(?). One of the figures of the line, a green monster or something, it was said to have bombed with the kids and released in lesser stocks.......it now commands top cash for collectors today.

So imagine MP-05 20 years from now......


There must be hope for PRID Bumblbee too! :lol:

Just went to google that line of stretchy toys. Made by Kener back in the days, but now apparently owned by Hasbro. There is a 2014 movie about Stretch in production now under Hasbro's license. And I thought Hasbro movies could not be worse after Battleship. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby alternator77 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:36 am

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truthfully to me hes easily worth the 150 i paid for him before the re-release.
and to this day he is my favorite figure by far.
as far as a new mold its entirely possible but given the alt mode we will never see it stateside not to mention many other places for that matter. i hear hegemon get some love but the truth is for the cost id prefer a hunderd dollars go toward a masterpiece thats a foot tall rather than a voyager fig. that and whenever theres a 3rd party option available at the same time as a decent official version i always go official.
hegemon is great for classics but hes no MP not by a longshot. >:oP
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Counterpunch » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:58 am

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Worthless?

I just sold mine for $150 via auction. Complete, opened, undamaged.

I think he was only $100 at release. Not sure how that's worthless...
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby xyl360 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:36 pm

Counterpunch wrote:Worthless?

I just sold mine for $150 via auction. Complete, opened, undamaged.

I think he was only $100 at release. Not sure how that's worthless...

I'm pretty sure he was at least $150, though I may be remembering the BBTS price which may have been higher than actual Japanese retail.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Mightymegs » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:07 pm

fenrir72 wrote:My advice for those who own one, Megatron that is, if you purchased him as an "investment". I recall a bendable stretchy toy in the 70s (not very sure if it reached the 80s) Stretch Armstrong(?). One of the figures of the line, a green monster or something, it was said to have bombed with the kids and released in lesser stocks.......it now commands top cash for collectors today.

So imagine MP-05 20 years from now......

The reason Stretch Monster (and other 'stretch' toys) command such a high price, is that very few managed to survive all these years. Most exploded is a sticky mess of corn syrup goo.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:01 am

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Mightymegs wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:My advice for those who own one, Megatron that is, if you purchased him as an "investment". I recall a bendable stretchy toy in the 70s (not very sure if it reached the 80s) Stretch Armstrong(?). One of the figures of the line, a green monster or something, it was said to have bombed with the kids and released in lesser stocks.......it now commands top cash for collectors today.

So imagine MP-05 20 years from now......

The reason Stretch Monster (and other 'stretch' toys) command such a high price, is that very few managed to survive all these years. Most exploded is a sticky mess of corn syrup goo.


And the green guy was a bomb..........hence the most unwanted of the releases.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Mykltron » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:18 am

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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:29 pm

Until recently my old MP Prime and Megs stood behind my regular Classics TFs as a sort of "movie poster" type of setup. Where some peopel are out of scale to signify spiritual signifigance? Yeah, that's what I did.

I paid the original $150 at a con. Never broke him and transformed him quite a few times. But I'm very careful with him.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Ravage XK » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:23 am

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While MP Megs isn't my number 1 MP figure I think Takara did an incredible job in creating such a detailed and complex figure from a handgun form. His feet rust, his head isn't right and his arm cannon is far too big and heavy for his frail body to cope with but I wouldn't be without him in my MP lineup.

He cost me less than £60 if I remember correctly so I cannot complain. I also sprung for the 3rd party add on kit.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby vectorA3 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:39 pm

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I like MP05. I'm going to hate doing it, but I will buy a newer version of him if they make one. As long as it's not super expensive. Got mine from BBTS for $85 and don't regret it at all. You need a big Megatron to display with MP Prime og. He's just a superb&*&*% to transform & there is a lot of plastic & he is fragile. Only downsides to me. Should or will Takara make MP Galvatron first or a new Megatron??
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby RodimalToyota » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:25 pm

Why?

Because he's crap, there I said it.
I know he's the best Takara did AT that time, but..

Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and make a proper g1 Megatron toy.



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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Blasphemous Prime » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:08 pm

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if you compare mp1 to mp10, the mp5 makes a hell of a first draft for a megatron v2. Sure he has his issues, but I'm sure most of us would have a hard to engineering him to transform into a rather large p-38. the only thing I really worry about is that megs v2 may end up being that dreaded tank (ughh!) I hope to hell that what ever the alt mode ends up being, at least have his bot mode look like his G1 self.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby AdamFett » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:17 pm

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Does the plastic that MP Grimlock is made of feel brittle, or cheap? Like does it appear that it will last a long time?
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby RhA » Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:38 am

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RodimalToyota wrote:Why?

Because he's crap, there I said it.
I know he's the best Takara did AT that time, but..

Losers always whine about their best, winners go home and make a proper g1 Megatron toy.



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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Ravage XK » Fri Nov 16, 2012 2:57 am

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AdamFett wrote:Does the plastic that MP Grimlock is made of feel brittle, or cheap? Like does it appear that it will last a long time?


Hmm, doesnt feel cheap. You just have to be careful with him. Some of the joints are thin and FEEL like they would break but I think he is tougher than he looks, you wouldn't want to use him for anything other than display though IMHO.

Once you start to transform Megs you get a sense of what a feat of toy engineering he is. Insanely complex and intricate in parts.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby vectorA3 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:10 pm

Motto: ""You must journey back farther into the matrix for the answer...""
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I presume you're talking about MP Megs with your last sentence?
I agree.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:17 am

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Worthless? I cannot get one for below 200$ on Ebay.

MP Megs did not impress me from the start but at that price? I'll stick with Hegemon.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby SJ21 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:11 am

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MP Megatron is just fine for my collection. Unless Has/Tak is going to make a Megatron to scale with MP Prime, I am not interested in another version. They reside on their own shelf, front and center, in my Transformers room. They need to be in scale.

I like my figures big. Especially the highly detailed figures. I am not buying into the new MP figures because I don't think their size differentiates them enough from Alternators or Classics.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby thedistinctroom » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:59 pm

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I will never stop loving the MP-5. I do think his fusion cannon is way too big and heavy, but no big deal for me! This version of Megatron is my favorite design.

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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Yotsuyasan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:39 pm

Motto: "No matter where you go, there you are."
He may have some problems, but I love my MP-5. As far as the complaints that the fusion cannon is too big... That is true, but there is a (*cough* third-party *cough*) soloution for that, that also helps the alt-mode out a ton.

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Mind you, as I said, he definitely has some problems. But he's still awesome. I'll take him over Hegemon with his (in my opinion) weak looking alt-mode and accessories (the stock extension) that seems to have no use with the robot mode any day.

That being said, since they've done a new Optimus, I'd not mind if they took another shot at Megatron in the new MP scale, as well. The legs could definitely use some work, perhaps with a transformation somewhat inspired by the Legends class version (more complexly designed to fill in the hollow back end, of course). But if they do do another MP Megatron, I suppose there's an even chance they may do a non-gun alt mode (such as a G2 tank) which I know has many advocates, but I am not one of them. We'll see, I suppose.

And until such a hypothetical day comes to pass, as I said I am more then happy with my MP-5!
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby Arie » Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:48 pm

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Megatron (MP-5) was my first Masterpiece release, but it will go up for sale pretty soon. I prefer the new smaller sizes, where all Transformers match. Megatron does not fit in unfortunately and therefore he has to find a new home. I am hoping for a smaller sized Megatron Masterpiece release still.
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Re: Why is Masterpiece Megatron so Worthless?

Postby mooncake623 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:48 am

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