Michael Bay To Purposefully Mislead Fans During Making of Transformers 2
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Nov 10, 2007 at 9:03pm CST
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Rottentomatoes.com is reporting that director Michael Bay and team working on the sequel to this past summer's Transformers Movie will be purposefully leaking fake information, such as script treatments and ideas, to throw fans off the trail. He also confirms that the previous leaked script treatment, which had already been debunked by producer Don Murphy and others, is a fake, as we reported some time ago.
You can read the full report on Rottentomatoes.com by clicking here.
Michael Bay went through the wringer with the fanboys on Transformers. He addressed every concern -- early designs, scripts, remaining faithful to the source material -- and delivered a movie that won over most audiences, grossing nearly $320 million in America alone. But with Transformers 2 in development, Bay isn't taking any more lip service.
"One thing I do know is I know how to screw them up more," said Bay. "We're going to leak a lot of false information all over the place. I now know their game. They're going to get a lot of script treatments that they think are going to be the script. They will never see the script. We've got scripts and treatments written up that we're going to leak. No one's going to know."
Scoopers who currently think they're sitting on a hot one, here's a head's up. "There's one out that's fake right now. There are going to be many others."
In the days leading up to the writer's strike, Bay was in the trenches working on the sequel script. "Every day now. I'm excited about it. We've got Alex [Kurtzman] and Bob [Orci], the original writers, and we've got Ehren Kruger (Blood and Chocolate, The Ring), who's a new writer coming in. We have three very good writers."
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Comment by Dr. Caelus
Nov 10, 2007
So, basically we shouldn't bother talking about it all then.
So can we shut down the Movie Forum then?
So can we shut down the Movie Forum then?
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Comment by Skowl
Nov 10, 2007
Front paged and credited!
I just hope he doesn't do this with the bot designs. The story I don't care for, but when I see a new TF, I want to be sure it's a character who will be in the film, so I have time to warm up to the design.
I love the design style and everything, but sometimes they take an awful long time to warm up to (Starscream, Megatron...)
I just hope he doesn't do this with the bot designs. The story I don't care for, but when I see a new TF, I want to be sure it's a character who will be in the film, so I have time to warm up to the design.
I love the design style and everything, but sometimes they take an awful long time to warm up to (Starscream, Megatron...)
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Comment by Mkall
Nov 10, 2007
Oh this is gonna make things really interesting. And fun too.
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As much as i'd love for that to happen, do you really want the stupidity overflowing into other forums?
Comment by Burn
Nov 10, 2007
Caelus wrote:So can we shut down the Movie Forum then?
As much as i'd love for that to happen, do you really want the stupidity overflowing into other forums?
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Comment by Dclone Soundwave
Nov 10, 2007
Damn, now I'm gonna know what I like & what I don't. If Soundwave is in there, I won't know which face is really his, the screwed up one or the G1-esque one. Oh well, I waited 2 years for the first one, I can wait another 2 for the second one...
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Comment by Megatron Wolf
Nov 10, 2007
Im sure he'll mess up some were. And im sure that there are people out there that will get a hold of the real info. Hell he's saying this so he might just leak real info and because of this we'll think its fake. This could get interesting.
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Comment by Sherade
Nov 10, 2007
It's Bay.
Did it really surprise anyone?
Did it really surprise anyone?
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Comment by Stormrider
Nov 10, 2007
Oh Bay...focus on improving your skills as a director instead of trying to be an illusionist.
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Comment by muddyjoe
Nov 10, 2007
Didn't he already mislead us about the first one? Y'know... hyping it to be something great and for the fans, blah, blah, blah. I just hope if the GI Joe or He-Man movies get the go-ahead they're more faithful to the look and soul of the source material.
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Comment by Cyber-Kun
Nov 10, 2007
You Mr. Bay, are a far more clever man then I gave you credit for
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Comment by Sherade
Nov 10, 2007
*fixed*Cyber-Kun wrote:You Mr. Bay, are a far more clever man then I gave you credit for...by about 1%.
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Comment by jacksonspade
Nov 10, 2007
WOO HOO...my first front page, credited story...my weekend is made. Anyway, to all the Bay-Haters, at least he is passionate about making the series. It's not a total G1 take on the material, but then again nothing has been G1 except, wait for it...wait for it...G1!!! No one does big, dumb action better than Michael Bay!
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Comment by Nemesis Cyberplex
Nov 10, 2007
So....instead of leting everybody warm up to all the crap they're going to throw at everybody & get over it, they're going to keep everybody clueless untill the movie actually comes out, see some drastic unnecessary changes to something they feel very passionately about, & have critics & words-of-mouth throw this movie into the same catagory as Highlander 2.
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The same thing happened to me. I didn't read the script, but I watched every single piece of footage that made it's way onto the internet, because I just couldn't wait. It kind of spoiled the movie for me as I went from one scene I knew to the next. I plan on going into TF2 without watching a single preview...but I really doubt that'll happen.
Comment by 8 bit
Nov 10, 2007
Liege Evilmus wrote:You know what, good for him! And even better, good for us.
I say that because I did my best to avoid as many spoilers as possible for TF1, but with the amount of information out there, even in unrelated threads, I was getting information.
I wasn't happy about that, I wanted to see the movie fresh and not go in knowing every detail, and sadly, knowing every detail is just what happened
So go on, keep us guessing, give us goose chases, but more so, give us a good follow up that will entertain us with things we didn't already know!
I know not everyone feels this way, but for me...
The same thing happened to me. I didn't read the script, but I watched every single piece of footage that made it's way onto the internet, because I just couldn't wait. It kind of spoiled the movie for me as I went from one scene I knew to the next. I plan on going into TF2 without watching a single preview...but I really doubt that'll happen.
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Comment by CInemastique
Nov 10, 2007
Umm... Didn't fan suggestion HELP Bay on the first movie? He decided to redesign Megatron's head, voice-audition Peter Cullen, and (presumably) renamed Soundwave to Frenzy in part because fans revolted at the initial premise.
The universe is established, and that helps, but I'd be a lot more comfortable if he had said, "I'm going to really pay attention to the fans more, because the best parts of the first film were often things I drew from them."
Bay takes criticism so poorly, he absolutely refuses to even hear it anymore. He'd be so much better as a director if he realized he doesn't already know everything about everything better than anyone.
I'd kinda like James Cameron to helm one of these. Say what you want about TITANIC, but the man knows how to research source material down to the letter, and reinvision it. And we've seen in the Terminator movies, he's got the chops for cyberpunk action, and how to keep his audience in mind.
The universe is established, and that helps, but I'd be a lot more comfortable if he had said, "I'm going to really pay attention to the fans more, because the best parts of the first film were often things I drew from them."
Bay takes criticism so poorly, he absolutely refuses to even hear it anymore. He'd be so much better as a director if he realized he doesn't already know everything about everything better than anyone.
I'd kinda like James Cameron to helm one of these. Say what you want about TITANIC, but the man knows how to research source material down to the letter, and reinvision it. And we've seen in the Terminator movies, he's got the chops for cyberpunk action, and how to keep his audience in mind.
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Comment by Brakethrough
Nov 10, 2007
I like this move, because as enthusiastic as I was about the film, it was a headache to show up here and see nothing but venom about it. Don't worry, though. This just means the information curve will be a lot steeper than it was with TF1. When advertising, trailers and merch hits, we'll all have plenty to discuss.
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Comment by Menbailee
Nov 10, 2007
This actually works well for us. The treatment that's circulating, to my understanding, wasn't simply "fake;" it was considered and rejected. Having all those fakes out there will stop our bothering with spoilers or pointless fan-bickering over what's actually in the movie, but it'll let us in on the creative process of the writers. Don't like the movie we actually get? Just take a fake as the real thing if you like it better.
They're not wasting resources making the fakes. Writers come up with and throw out plenty of ideas, so we're getting to see that instead of having it all in the dustbin.
They're not wasting resources making the fakes. Writers come up with and throw out plenty of ideas, so we're getting to see that instead of having it all in the dustbin.
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Comment by Methusalen
Nov 10, 2007
The only thing that would bug me? If one of the 'fake' scripts turns out to be a better film than the actual film...
But otherwise, I think it's a neat idea on Bay's side of things... If the fans react really positively to something in one of the 'leaked' scripts, I could see them using that idea in the finished product... Think of it as 'test screening'?
But otherwise, I think it's a neat idea on Bay's side of things... If the fans react really positively to something in one of the 'leaked' scripts, I could see them using that idea in the finished product... Think of it as 'test screening'?
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Comment by SoooTrypticon
Nov 11, 2007
"We have three very good writers."
And so the mis-information campaign BEGINS!!!
HAHAHAHA! He is NEVER, never, ever, ever gonna live this one down. Brash, stupid, artless hack.
Soon he'll try to convince everyone he's making a "movie" and not another two hour long commercial for the army, ebay and oh, yeah, something called "Transformers."
But maybe that’s where the mis-information begins? Maybe there is no TINO 2. We can only hope…
And so the mis-information campaign BEGINS!!!
HAHAHAHA! He is NEVER, never, ever, ever gonna live this one down. Brash, stupid, artless hack.
Soon he'll try to convince everyone he's making a "movie" and not another two hour long commercial for the army, ebay and oh, yeah, something called "Transformers."
But maybe that’s where the mis-information begins? Maybe there is no TINO 2. We can only hope…
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Comment by Fireblast
Nov 11, 2007
If i were Michael Bay I would leak scripts then I would observe how fans reach to each one and then you have ffedback on what ideas that will please fans and ideas that would piss them off then take everything that pleases everyone and make a script on that. I will say the fake script leaked recently seemed a hell of a lot better than the first movie.
