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More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci

Transformers News: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci

Monday, February 18th, 2008 7:37PM CST

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Transformers Movie writer Roberto Orci has dropped by Don Murphy's message boards to give a quick update on the story for the film's sequel, set for release on June 26th 2009.

Here's what he had to say in this thread:

Question: Will Starscream have more than 3 English lines in the sequel ?

Answer: Yes.

Question: If TF1 was Bumblebee and Primes movie (as far as robot stars go), who's movie would you say TF2 is going to be?

Answer: Too early to tell. Obviously, Prime will always be central, but our structure allows the freedom to have others step up. Will know more later.

Question: Will the Decepticons have any scenes to themselves like the Autobots had in the first one?

Answer: Yes.

Question: Also, Roberto, can you provide any hints as to the tone of TF2? Even with a short ouline, I'm sure there is much work to be done. I'm not horribly concerned that Mike went all Batshit-crazy during your hiatus. As egomaniacial as he seems, he also seems to know his place. Perhaps I'm wrong on that.

Answer: The tone will be similar to TF1, although I think the stakes will be higher. There will still be much humor, but I think many of the Transformers themselves will be more in line with fan expectation. More serious to some degree. Again, we're early in the process.

Bay's statements should be taken merely as confirmation of his enthusiasm and desire to make his date. He does not want anyone to lose confidence in the project.

Question: Bob, are you looking to strike the exact same tone as film 1 or will the sequel be more serious and thought-provoking? Will it be a smarter film, more science-fictionny?

Answer: More "science-fictionny." Yes.

Question: Any possibility of a TF arrivel scene similar to the first but with decepticons this time ?

And i take it there will be a mix of new and existing G1 characters for the next ?

Answer: New mix. Yes. No comment on Decepticon arrivals!

Question: Also Bob i would like to add, are we gonna see more of Cybertron in this one ?

Just in flashbacks or will it take place in present time ?

Anwer: No comment on Cybertron.

Question: My major problem with "Transformers" were the humans. Most of them acted like they were on a mix of speed, ecstacy and too much coffee. Their behaviour was IMO way over the top, almost like highly exaggerated comic-book caricatures. I think it wasn't so much due to the writing, but more due to the direction they were given by Michael Bay.

Was it your intention to write the human characters (Sam, Sam's parents, Simmons, the cop guy in the police station) in such an exaggerated, over-the-top way or did that evolve during filming and are there any plans to tone the humans down a little for the sequel to make them appear more ... normal and not so over-caffeinated?

Answer: We'll have to take some of the blame for that. We pitched Sam as "Marty McFly on crack." And Simmon's is pretty much the way he read on the page. But I agree that it went even further than it should've, and editing could've helped that a bit. As I've said before, tone on TF1 was the absolutely hardest thing to crack. Hopefully, we'll be better at modulating this time.

Question: Roberto could you tell us about the cooperation sofar? You know, you had a way to write with alex, how did it change with Ethan? Or was it he, who conformed himself to you?

Answer: We'd worked with Ehren before, so we knew his personality would be a good fit for "the band." We agreed to split up scenes and then pass them around to each other to make our own tweaks without anyone's feelings getting hurt -- one big jam session after which we'll hopefully have an album called TF2.

Question: Roberto, cheers for answering my first question. Predictably, I have another. Does Bumblebee talk all the time now, or does he still have issues with his voice box?

Answer: Minds not made up yet.

Question: Also about the humor and jokes in the next one, any chance of making them alittle "smarter" ?

Some of the jokes in the first is okay in a American Pie type movie but not in Transformers in my honest opinion.

Answer: Don't know how the humor will turn out yet. We have to find it. But we know it has to come from whatever situation Sam finds himself in. Any similarities to American Pie were the result of our character being in a similar situation (age, high school, etc.).

Question: Any idea what they're doing with those old S7 sites? They could be used in another viral game for TF2, or (more preferably) they could be taken offline.

Answer: No idea.

Question: Hey Roberto, Hasbro said at Toy Fair that they've been working with Paramount on designs for TF2 for weeks now, and Bay has indicated several times that they're well on their way with the robot designs. I'm just curious if you're getting kept in that loop, and if you get to comment along the way, or if they're keeping all of that amongst themselves. It doesn' so much matter for new characters, but for those based on past incarnations it'd be great if there were parties involved to assure they get "the Prime treatment", so to speak. Maybe Hasbro's more hands-on this go-around? Thanks!

Answer: As a result of the strike, we were not able to comment on anything that was going on within the production. As a result, Hasbro has been MUCH MORE involved. However, we had a ton of character and development conversations with them before the strike (going all the way back to before the movie's release). So we've had our input and Hasbro in general knew where we were going with the story. During the strike, some dates had to be met in order to assure all the designs would be ready for multiple purposes, and it now seems that is where Bay and Hasbro spent most of their efforts. Doesn't mean we can't lose or add characters, but it probably means our core group is somewhat locked.

Luckily, the folks at Hasbro are truly great people and their collaboration with Bay has probably kept this movie on track.

Question: Bay was quoted as saying that there would be some new/different "species" of Transformers. What do you think he meant by that?

Answer: No comment! But they're in the outline, so don't worry.

You can also probably guess what he means in his non-fan way.

Question: So when you guys are working on the outline...do you work on it from beginning to end? Or do the three of you figure out big spots that you want to have and go back and fill in the holes? What I mean by that are huge set peices, stunts or moments that you want to accent on screen. Im sure Bay has plenty of spots that he'd like to do and that would only add to the collaboration. How is that process completed?

Answer: Well, normally we don't hand over outlines. Normally we do those for ourselves and then hand in a script. Thanks to the strike, we felt it was only fair to give them a snap shot of where we were going so they could plan from a treatment. So naturally, a treatment is not a script, and there are many things that need to be filled in at script. Knowing where we were going, and what we intended the major set pieces to be, Bay could start to plan how he would attack some of the action.

Question: Is it safe to assume there are a bunch of new robots designed for the transformers movie, but have no name as of yet, or are subject to change?

Answer: Safe indeed.

Question: Roberto without going into details, how many parallel storylines do you think you might have running in this movie?

Answer: Story lines in this movie should be more organically interconnected in that TF1 had the structure of 3 story lines coming together at Hoover. TF2 will have a different structure.

Question: Roberto, I just wanted to know what comes first: The design of the Transformers then the names, or names first, then their design.

Answer: No hard and fast rules, and almost impossible to remember as it's a case by case basis.

Question: Will there be more emphasis on new transformer/s? Or will characters such as Bumblebee still be the main focus?

Answer: Just started playing around, but the short answer is both.

Question: So Roberto, what would the time estimate for the final script be? A couple weeks? A month? A couple months?

Answer: THE FINAL? The day before shooting.

A first draft? who knows -- everyone needed it last month, but we're contractually accorded 10-12 weeks or so for the first draft.

Question: can changes be made DURING shooting if Bay or someone else demands

Answer: Yes. We're usually the ones demanding it.
Credit(s): johndoe4880, Roberto Orci
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Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (635845)
Posted by SavageCam on February 18th, 2008 @ 7:58pm CST
I think the key point that is getting across to the writers is this: Smarter! Respect our intelligence. And it sounds like they're working towards that. Can't wait.
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (635849)
Posted by omega666 on February 18th, 2008 @ 8:03pm CST
I feel pretty good about TF 2. I'm sure they figured out what worked and didn't work and will improve on it.
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (635851)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on February 18th, 2008 @ 8:06pm CST
I understand he can't say much, and that alot is still up in the air.

What I like though is that they are looking to push the envelope and now that the stage is set, work more on the bots then the humans.

Well, we'll see in a year or so how it works out...
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (635856)
Posted by Skowl on February 18th, 2008 @ 8:12pm CST
More questions added.

This story was a pain in the ass to post. Anything that involves going through almost 40 pages of post at the Don Murphy forums can't possibly be fun...

I'd also like to ask Roberto a few questions, but my account on Don Murphy's boards was banned, for no reason!
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (635857)
Posted by Mirage22 on February 18th, 2008 @ 8:14pm CST
I'm most concerned about the characters. I really like triple-changers and hope they have some of them. (Thumbs-up to Blitzwing and Astrotrain.)
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (635858)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on February 18th, 2008 @ 8:16pm CST
Skowl, how do you get an account?

I'll join up, flip my log in to you and let you have a field day on their sorry asses!
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (635861)
Posted by 1337W422102 on February 18th, 2008 @ 8:19pm CST
Skowl wrote:This story was a pain in the ass to post. Anything that involves going through almost 40 pages of post at the Don Murphy forums can't possibly be fun...

Damn! You did all that for us? Man, you just give and you keep on giving. Thanks a lot!

As for your random account banning, that's pure BS on their part. Try changing your IP and making a new account with a vastly different name, or ask someone else to post questions for you. I'm sure you'll find some volunteers in this thread!
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (635894)
Posted by saberconvoy on February 18th, 2008 @ 9:28pm CST
At least we are getting notified but i still would like to know if soundwave would be in it.
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (635947)
Posted by Keeperofthespark on February 18th, 2008 @ 10:42pm CST
I like what I hear so far. I do hope this ends up a good #2 like some sequels and not a bad #2 like alot of sequels. The first movie was brilliant fun in my opinion but am happy that they edited quite alot out and had changed( dialogue wise) the draft which was leaked online back in summer 2006. I enjoyed it alot more than I thoguht I would. I hope that the sequel is brilliant fun again, but even funner. However, my concern is the tone of the film. The first one didn't take itself too seriously which I liked but if the stakes are much higher and the humor is more and is unbalanced unliek the first, then I have a problem. I just hope it doesn't end up as unbalanced as the likes of Die Another Day( Worst. James Bond film. Ever).
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (635964)
Posted by chevymantf on February 18th, 2008 @ 11:19pm CST
MAN I HOPE THERE IS NOT A LOT OF HUMAN ACTIVITY IN TRANSFORMERS 2
LIKE THE FIRST FILM. I HOPE THIS MOVIE GIVES THE ROBOTS MORE CAMERA TIME AND LESS CRAPPY CAMERA ANGLES
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (636010)
Posted by Stormrider on February 19th, 2008 @ 2:30am CST
I have little faith in this movie. If the writers are indicating that they are still trying to figure out the tone and the characters then it tells me that they don't understand the Transformers universe or the fans as a whole.
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (636020)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on February 19th, 2008 @ 4:00am CST
Sounds not only like theyre working on it but like theyre enjoying working on it.
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (636132)
Posted by Scatterlung on February 19th, 2008 @ 8:51am CST
Stormrider wrote:I have little faith in this movie. If the writers are indicating that they are still trying to figure out the tone and the characters then it tells me that they don't understand the Transformers universe or the fans as a whole.

I don't think it says quite that much. I mean, are you saying they should be looking to past series for a tone? Because it IS meant to be a new, original incarnation. They're effectly only their own picking a tone for it I think. Personally, I'd say they can just look to the previous movie with a little more serious, that'd do me fine.
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (636158)
Posted by First Gen on February 19th, 2008 @ 9:34am CST
If TF2 has the same "tone" as the first movie, then I predict a HUGE bust. We already had a major backlash in mixed opinions with the first one, they have to step it up with a WAY better script.

And so help me if I hear another mention of the friggin allspark piece im gonna........ :BOOM:
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (636166)
Posted by First Gen on February 19th, 2008 @ 9:43am CST
Skowl wrote:More questions added.

This story was a pain in the ass to post. Anything that involves going through almost 40 pages of post at the Don Murphy forums can't possibly be fun...

I'd also like to ask Roberto a few questions, but my account on Don Murphy's boards was banned, for no reason!



Well a big THANK YOU to you Skowl for doing all the dirty work so we can complain about what was said. :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE:

News Mod of the day: Skowl.
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (636173)
Posted by First-Aid on February 19th, 2008 @ 9:57am CST
First Gen wrote:If TF2 has the same "tone" as the first movie, then I predict a HUGE bust. We already had a major backlash in mixed opinions with the first one, they have to step it up with a WAY better script.


Who had mixed opinions? The only real "mixed opinions" came from the critics- who are a bunch of out-of-work English majors with hemorrhoids anyways- and the fan community. You really can't have "mixed opinions" when a movie grosses over $800 million and becomes the second highest-grossing non-sequel ever.

First Gen wrote:And so help me if I hear another mention of the friggin allspark piece im gonna........ :BOOM:


Actually I have said that I can see a storyline that logically (from a sci-fi perspective) focuses on the remaining piece of the AllSpark. The premise is that the "radiation" being given off by the AllSPark in the first movie is really atom sized nano-bots, and this is discovered in TF2. It makes more sense this way; normally radiation cannot be "channeled" and simple radiation, which is essentially free particles shooting off the atom, would not be able to "rebuild" or redesign ordinary devices as it did in the first movie. The nano-bots theoretically could do that. That's how an AllSpark-centered plot might work... :-?
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (636182)
Posted by First Gen on February 19th, 2008 @ 10:16am CST
First-Aid wrote:
First Gen wrote:If TF2 has the same "tone" as the first movie, then I predict a HUGE bust. We already had a major backlash in mixed opinions with the first one, they have to step it up with a WAY better script.


Who had mixed opinions? The only real "mixed opinions" came from the critics- who are a bunch of out-of-work English majors with hemorrhoids anyways- and the fan community. You really can't have "mixed opinions" when a movie grosses over $800 million and becomes the second highest-grossing non-sequel ever.

First Gen wrote:And so help me if I hear another mention of the friggin allspark piece im gonna........ :BOOM:


Actually I have said that I can see a storyline that logically (from a sci-fi perspective) focuses on the remaining piece of the AllSpark. The premise is that the "radiation" being given off by the AllSPark in the first movie is really atom sized nano-bots, and this is discovered in TF2. It makes more sense this way; normally radiation cannot be "channeled" and simple radiation, which is essentially free particles shooting off the atom, would not be able to "rebuild" or redesign ordinary devices as it did in the first movie. The nano-bots theoretically could do that. That's how an AllSpark-centered plot might work... :-?



You are entitled to your opinions. Regardless of how wrong they may be. Have a great day! :grin:
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (636987)
Posted by DMSL on February 20th, 2008 @ 11:29am CST
No Megatron, Brawl, Barricade or Bonecrusher?

I can definately not see a movie without Megatron.
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (639268)
Posted by Deceptitech on February 22nd, 2008 @ 10:52pm CST
chevymantf wrote:MAN I HOPE THERE IS NOT A LOT OF HUMAN ACTIVITY IN TRANSFORMERS 2
LIKE THE FIRST FILM. I HOPE THIS MOVIE GIVES THE ROBOTS MORE CAMERA TIME AND LESS CRAPPY CAMERA ANGLES


This IS Michael Bay you're talking about, right?

First-Aid wrote:
First Gen wrote:If TF2 has the same "tone" as the first movie, then I predict a HUGE bust. We already had a major backlash in mixed opinions with the first one, they have to step it up with a WAY better script.


Who had mixed opinions? The only real "mixed opinions" came from the critics- who are a bunch of out-of-work English majors with hemorrhoids anyways- and the fan community. You really can't have "mixed opinions" when a movie grosses over $800 million and becomes the second highest-grossing non-sequel ever.


Don't wanna go there. That is a vast can of worms by many fans. Those who liked it fine and those who didn't like it at all. Count me in the latter.
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (876677)
Posted by GetterDragun on January 31st, 2009 @ 9:57am CST
chevymantf wrote:MAN I HOPE THERE IS NOT A LOT OF HUMAN ACTIVITY IN TRANSFORMERS 2
LIKE THE FIRST FILM. I HOPE THIS MOVIE GIVES THE ROBOTS MORE CAMERA TIME AND LESS CRAPPY CAMERA ANGLES


Please do not post in all caps.
Re: More on Transformers 2 From Writer Roberto Orci (876775)
Posted by g05 on January 31st, 2009 @ 2:29pm CST
GetterDragun wrote:
chevymantf wrote:MAN I HOPE THERE IS NOT A LOT OF HUMAN ACTIVITY IN TRANSFORMERS 2
LIKE THE FIRST FILM. I HOPE THIS MOVIE GIVES THE ROBOTS MORE CAMERA TIME AND LESS CRAPPY CAMERA ANGLES


Please do not post in all caps.


the last post to this thread was on 02.23.08. almost a year ago. you resurrected this thread just to tell this person not to use all caps? :P
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