The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian
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The fourth figure reveal in the Machine Wars BotCon 2013 boxset is Obsidian. This figure follows the reveals of Hoist, Skywarp and Strika. Obsidian uses the voyager class Hunt for the Decepticons Highbrow mold with yet another new head. The image has been mirrored below for your convenience.
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Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466212)
Posted by RAcast on February 21st, 2013 @ 1:44pm CST
Posted by RAcast on February 21st, 2013 @ 1:44pm CST
Obsidian never looked so good! 
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466213)
Posted by Shadowstream on February 21st, 2013 @ 1:46pm CST
Posted by Shadowstream on February 21st, 2013 @ 1:46pm CST
One by one the exclusives keep getting uglier and uglier and having to do less and less with machine wars... It's quite cleat they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466215)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 21st, 2013 @ 1:52pm CST
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 21st, 2013 @ 1:52pm CST
Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard. 
Any how this ones very unimpressive in my opinion, there a lot better figures to use for Obsidian.
Any how this ones very unimpressive in my opinion, there a lot better figures to use for Obsidian.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466216)
Posted by Burn on February 21st, 2013 @ 1:56pm CST
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
Posted by Burn on February 21st, 2013 @ 1:56pm CST
Shadowstream wrote:One by one the exclusives keep getting uglier and uglier and having to do less and less with machine wars... It's quite cleat they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466219)
Posted by DrRX8 on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:03pm CST
Posted by DrRX8 on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:03pm CST
ahhh UGLY! I am not buying this. I would rather save up for the new springer, blitzwing, IDW figures...and METROPLEX!
Please stop making ugly figures with crappy movie molds!
Please stop making ugly figures with crappy movie molds!
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466220)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:05pm CST
Ok, then I challenge you to name them.
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:05pm CST
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard.
Ok, then I challenge you to name them.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466221)
Posted by NOS on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:06pm CST
Posted by NOS on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:06pm CST
That's disappointing. Strika is a win, but her counterpart is a loss.
Really poor color scheme choice. :/
Really poor color scheme choice. :/
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466226)
Posted by Janus Prime on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:15pm CST
Posted by Janus Prime on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:15pm CST
Oh snap dudes! I love it, look at the head sculpt! I loved Obsidian and Strika in BM, the only two characters that made any sense to me. I hope Hasbro takes note and give us new molds for them... some day.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466229)
Posted by TK415 on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:21pm CST
Posted by TK415 on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:21pm CST
I know about Machine Wars. I know about Beast Machines. Did I miss some reading somewhere? Is it "Botcon Beast Machine Wars?" Is it "Machine Wars (and oh, by the way, we are including Beast Machines but not bothering to title it?)" I'm not a CC member, was it explained somewhere that I didn'read. A little help? Thanks.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466232)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:32pm CST
Me think we'll be digging in the origins of the two Generals, via G1/G2. After all, in Beast Machines they were described as the greatest strategic minds of history, we'll probably get to see that in action here.
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:32pm CST
TK415 wrote:I know about Machine Wars. I know about Beast Machines. Did I miss some reading somewhere? Is it "Botcon Beast Machine Wars?" Is it "Machine Wars (and oh, by the way, we are including Beast Machines but not bothering to title it?)" I'm not a CC member, was it explained somewhere that I didn'read. A little help? Thanks.
Me think we'll be digging in the origins of the two Generals, via G1/G2. After all, in Beast Machines they were described as the greatest strategic minds of history, we'll probably get to see that in action here.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466234)
Posted by PrymeStriker on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:35pm CST
Posted by PrymeStriker on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:35pm CST
Obsidian looks great. Now, I need to see his faction to learn if Strika and Obsidian will be allies or enemies. 
Another thing...why do I see so many people get upset about the addition of new characters in Machine Wars, especially these characters, when they specifically "warned" us that they were doing this beforehand?
Another thing...why do I see so many people get upset about the addition of new characters in Machine Wars, especially these characters, when they specifically "warned" us that they were doing this beforehand?
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466235)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:43pm CST
As for Obsidian, I like it, but would have preferred this:
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:43pm CST
Because they don't pay attention and/or missed the announcement.PrymeStriker wrote:Another thing...why do I see so many people get upset about the addition of new characters in Machine Wars, especially these characters, when they specifically "warned" us that they were doing this beforehand?
As for Obsidian, I like it, but would have preferred this:
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466236)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:43pm CST
I'ght
D.O.T.M Skyhammer
Movie Incinerator
F.O.C Vortex (kept him scale with Strika)
H.F.T.D Tomahawk (though over used)
There are few common themes in these figures that make them better for the homage. One, they are figures small enough to stay in relative scale with strika, and they are stelth and military helicopters, which fit within the relm of homage.
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:43pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard.
Ok, then I challenge you to name them.
I'ght
D.O.T.M Skyhammer
Movie Incinerator
F.O.C Vortex (kept him scale with Strika)
H.F.T.D Tomahawk (though over used)
There are few common themes in these figures that make them better for the homage. One, they are figures small enough to stay in relative scale with strika, and they are stelth and military helicopters, which fit within the relm of homage.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466237)
Posted by Mkall on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:43pm CST
Posted by Mkall on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:43pm CST
This is probably the most boring Boxset in a long time.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466240)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:47pm CST
DotM Skyhammer: He only has one rotor, I'm predicting him for Sandstorm.
Movie Incinerator: That could have worked actually, if it wasn't for the lack of hands
FOC Vortex: Too recent, molds have to be at least a year old. Plus, only one rotor
HftD Tomahawk: Already used for 2012 Spinister, and again, one rotor.
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:47pm CST
SW's SilverHammer wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard.
Ok, then I challenge you to name them.
I'ght
D.O.T.M Skyhammer
Movie Incinerator
F.O.C Vortex (kept him scale with Strika)
H.F.T.D Tomahawk (though over used)
There are few common themes in these figures that make them better for the homage. One, they are figures small enough to stay in relative scale with strika, and the are stelth and military helicopters, which fit within the relm of homage.
DotM Skyhammer: He only has one rotor, I'm predicting him for Sandstorm.
Movie Incinerator: That could have worked actually, if it wasn't for the lack of hands
FOC Vortex: Too recent, molds have to be at least a year old. Plus, only one rotor
HftD Tomahawk: Already used for 2012 Spinister, and again, one rotor.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466241)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:51pm CST
You just asked for molds, I have no control on whether or not fupub can use them, or reuse them, plus there have only been a few Osprey molds, so you kinda have to reach for helicopters for the homage XD
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:51pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard.
Ok, then I challenge you to name them.
I'ght
D.O.T.M Skyhammer
Movie Incinerator
F.O.C Vortex (kept him scale with Strika)
H.F.T.D Tomahawk (though over used)
There are few common themes in these figures that make them better for the homage. One, they are figures small enough to stay in relative scale with strika, and the are stealth and military helicopters, which fit within the relm of homage.
DotM Skyhammer: licensing issues, plus, he only has one rotor
Movie Incinerator: That could have worked actually, if it wasn't for the lack of hands
FOC vortex: Too recent, molds have to be a year old at least. Plus, only one rotor
HftD Tomahawk: Already used for 2012 Spinister
You just asked for molds, I have no control on whether or not fupub can use them, or reuse them, plus there have only been a few Osprey molds, so you kinda have to reach for helicopters for the homage XD
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466242)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:53pm CST
True, but that would be cutting corners, even for FunPub.
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:53pm CST
SW's SilverHammer wrote:You just asked for molds, I have no control on whether or not fupub can use them, or reuse them, plus there have only been a few Osprey molds, so you kinda have to reach for helicopters for the homage XD
True, but that would be cutting corners, even for FunPub.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466243)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:58pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2013 @ 2:58pm CST
Shoulda been this:
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466245)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:03pm CST
Sabrblade, are you gonna pull a Motormaster here?
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:03pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Shoulda been this:
Sabrblade, are you gonna pull a Motormaster here?
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466246)
Posted by Manterax Prime on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:04pm CST
So what if the Incinerator figure doesn't have hands. Obsidian's first toy didn't have hands either.
Posted by Manterax Prime on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:04pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard.
Ok, then I challenge you to name them.
I'ght
D.O.T.M Skyhammer
Movie Incinerator
F.O.C Vortex (kept him scale with Strika)
H.F.T.D Tomahawk (though over used)
There are few common themes in these figures that make them better for the homage. One, they are figures small enough to stay in relative scale with strika, and the are stelth and military helicopters, which fit within the relm of homage.
DotM Skyhammer: He only has one rotor, I'm predicting him for Sandstorm.
Movie Incinerator: That could have worked actually, if it wasn't for the lack of hands
FOC Vortex: Too recent, molds have to be at least a year old. Plus, only one rotor
HftD Tomahawk: Already used for 2012 Spinister, and again, one rotor.
So what if the Incinerator figure doesn't have hands. Obsidian's first toy didn't have hands either.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466247)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:05pm CST
There's a line between homage, and missing the point, this is nowhere near the line
Though it is great just because of the beast of a figure it is XD
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:05pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Shoulda been this:
There's a line between homage, and missing the point, this is nowhere near the line
Though it is great just because of the beast of a figure it is XD
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466248)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:07pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:07pm CST
Hey, it ain't my digibash.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sabrblade, are you gonna pull a Motormaster here?
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466249)
Posted by Mindmaster on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:12pm CST
Posted by Mindmaster on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:12pm CST
I dig the new head sculpt, but traditionally, Obsidian was a but shorter than Strika. I don't recall Obsidian being that neon.
Give me another Decepticon!
Give me another Decepticon!
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466250)
Posted by GuyIncognito on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:16pm CST
Posted by GuyIncognito on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:16pm CST
Sounds like the only acceptable mold for an Obsidian homage is the original Obsidian mold, since any minor difference brings up complaints.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466251)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:16pm CST
Only his toy was puny.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:16pm CST
Nay, he was taller.Mindmaster wrote:I dig the new head sculpt, but traditionally, Obsidian was a but shorter than Strika.
Only his toy was puny.
Could be due to the lighting but...Mindmaster wrote:I don't recall Obsidian being that neon.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466252)
Posted by Noideaforaname on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:41pm CST
Posted by Noideaforaname on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:41pm CST
We're never getting a show-colored Obsidian, are we?
I do wish Obsidian and Strika were the same size-class, but I don't think the available molds allow for that. Well, with decent results at least.
I do wish Obsidian and Strika were the same size-class, but I don't think the available molds allow for that. Well, with decent results at least.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466256)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:53pm CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:53pm CST
Okay, I can see it: two rotors near the shoulders, skinny legs...not so skeptical anymore.
Still, I wish it was a helicoptor. They make badass vehicle modes.
Still, I wish it was a helicoptor. They make badass vehicle modes.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466257)
Posted by The Collecter on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:59pm CST
Posted by The Collecter on February 21st, 2013 @ 3:59pm CST
FUN PUB WHY U NO GIV US A MEGATRON/MEGAPLEX OR A OPTIMUS PRIME!
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466258)
Posted by Mindmaster on February 21st, 2013 @ 4:05pm CST
Calm thyself. Jeez...
We still have the walk-in figures to think of. Plus the fifth figure of the 5-box set. It's more than likely we might see Megatron/Megaplex and Optimus as additional sets.
Posted by Mindmaster on February 21st, 2013 @ 4:05pm CST
The Collecter wrote:FUN PUB WHY U NO GIV US A MEGATRON/MEGAPLEX OR A OPTIMUS PRIME!
Calm thyself. Jeez...
We still have the walk-in figures to think of. Plus the fifth figure of the 5-box set. It's more than likely we might see Megatron/Megaplex and Optimus as additional sets.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466262)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on February 21st, 2013 @ 4:55pm CST
Posted by Doubledealer93 on February 21st, 2013 @ 4:55pm CST
these make me glad im not going to botcon this year.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466264)
Posted by Anonymous. on February 21st, 2013 @ 5:06pm CST
Likewise. Beast Machines should never be touched only if they're rocking an all in, well designed Anniversary molds that are show accurate.
Posted by Anonymous. on February 21st, 2013 @ 5:06pm CST
Doubledealer93 wrote:these make me glad im not going to botcon this year.
Likewise. Beast Machines should never be touched only if they're rocking an all in, well designed Anniversary molds that are show accurate.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466267)
Posted by ILL-Star on February 21st, 2013 @ 5:21pm CST
Posted by ILL-Star on February 21st, 2013 @ 5:21pm CST
Love It. When they revealed Strika, the Highbrow mold is one of the two figures I hoped Obsidian would use, the other being RTS Lugnut. And I don't understand the complaints of "This is not Machine Wars". FunPub said they were going to add new characters to the series. Strika and Obsidian are both from Beast MACHINES and we really have no character history for them besides Strika being a great general from a past war and Obsidian being a guardian of Cybertron who's loyal only to the planet. And when it comes to the way these figures look physically, doesn't anybody remember that the bodies they had in Beast Machines were only drone bodies given to them by Megatron? So why can't they look like this? And Obsidian looks better in green than that greyish blue.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466272)
Posted by Dagon on February 21st, 2013 @ 5:43pm CST
Well, for starters, how's about something that turns into a helicopter? You know, the way Obsidian did? I'm sure that's a real stretch, but...
Hell man, even that Lugnut digibash looks better than this, and I LOVE that Highbrow or whoever mold. New head looks very nice though.
Posted by Dagon on February 21st, 2013 @ 5:43pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Oh god, can no one get his color scheme right, it's not that hard.
Ok, then I challenge you to name them.
Well, for starters, how's about something that turns into a helicopter? You know, the way Obsidian did? I'm sure that's a real stretch, but...
Hell man, even that Lugnut digibash looks better than this, and I LOVE that Highbrow or whoever mold. New head looks very nice though.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466273)
Posted by TK415 on February 21st, 2013 @ 5:46pm CST
I hope that you weren't talking about me. I wasn't upset. I was just curious. I figured that there was a good chance that I missed it or didn’t know where to look. I was just asking for clarification or a reminder. I don't have a problem with it, it makes sense to me, and I appreciate what Jelze and Sabr said.
I haven’t bothered to go to Botcon.com but now that I did I thought the info was cool:
“02/21/2013 - Here is our 4th reveal... MACHINE WARS Obsidian! Originally featured on the Beast Machines cartoon alongside his consort Strika, Obsidian is a Cybertronian General and a NEW addition to the MACHINE WARS line and mythos. He is available EXCLUSIVELY as part of the 5 figure MACHINE WARS box set. Keep tuned in here as these toys will be available for purchase through our registration system very soon.”
Posted by TK415 on February 21st, 2013 @ 5:46pm CST
PrymeStriker wrote:Another thing...why do I see so many people get upset about the addition of new characters in Machine Wars, especially these characters, when they specifically "warned" us that they were doing this beforehand?
I hope that you weren't talking about me. I wasn't upset. I was just curious. I figured that there was a good chance that I missed it or didn’t know where to look. I was just asking for clarification or a reminder. I don't have a problem with it, it makes sense to me, and I appreciate what Jelze and Sabr said.
I haven’t bothered to go to Botcon.com but now that I did I thought the info was cool:
“02/21/2013 - Here is our 4th reveal... MACHINE WARS Obsidian! Originally featured on the Beast Machines cartoon alongside his consort Strika, Obsidian is a Cybertronian General and a NEW addition to the MACHINE WARS line and mythos. He is available EXCLUSIVELY as part of the 5 figure MACHINE WARS box set. Keep tuned in here as these toys will be available for purchase through our registration system very soon.”
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466283)
Posted by Manterax Prime on February 21st, 2013 @ 6:15pm CST
Posted by Manterax Prime on February 21st, 2013 @ 6:15pm CST
Well, looks like the last figure will be the deciding factor as to wether I go to Botcon this year or wait for Slagacon.
As of now, we have 2 good figures, Hoist and Strika, and 2 crap figures, Skywarp and Obsidian.
As of now, we have 2 good figures, Hoist and Strika, and 2 crap figures, Skywarp and Obsidian.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466292)
Posted by RiddlerJ on February 21st, 2013 @ 7:05pm CST
While I don't imagine them being part of the box set, I think there's a good chance that MW Skywarp remold will also be used for MW Thundercracker and Hoist will be MW Hubcap. Maybe as a separate two pack or attendance freebie.
Posted by RiddlerJ on February 21st, 2013 @ 7:05pm CST
Manterax Prime wrote:Well, looks like the last figure will be the deciding factor as to wether I go to Botcon this year or wait for Slagacon.
As of now, we have 2 good figures, Hoist and Strika, and 2 crap figures, Skywarp and Obsidian.
While I don't imagine them being part of the box set, I think there's a good chance that MW Skywarp remold will also be used for MW Thundercracker and Hoist will be MW Hubcap. Maybe as a separate two pack or attendance freebie.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466294)
Posted by RiddlerJ on February 21st, 2013 @ 7:15pm CST
Posted by RiddlerJ on February 21st, 2013 @ 7:15pm CST
Hmmm. Who else do we still need...
Oddly, the Classics Mirage mold would probably still be the best bet for MW Mirage and Prowl except that it is so old and has already been used so much. Maybe DotM Drag Strip
Universe Silverbolt for Starscream? Another mold that may be too old by now.
Cybertron Defence Red Alert would be perfect for Soundwave but again, see above.
Yeah, the only one that I can see is DotM Skyhammer as Sandstorm like JelZe GoldRabbit said.
Oddly, the Classics Mirage mold would probably still be the best bet for MW Mirage and Prowl except that it is so old and has already been used so much. Maybe DotM Drag Strip
Universe Silverbolt for Starscream? Another mold that may be too old by now.
Cybertron Defence Red Alert would be perfect for Soundwave but again, see above.
Yeah, the only one that I can see is DotM Skyhammer as Sandstorm like JelZe GoldRabbit said.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466296)
Posted by GreenLantern of Cybertron on February 21st, 2013 @ 7:16pm CST
Just a 15 sec digibash to see if it worked in the better colours.
Posted by GreenLantern of Cybertron on February 21st, 2013 @ 7:16pm CST
Just a 15 sec digibash to see if it worked in the better colours.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466299)
Posted by Overcracker on February 21st, 2013 @ 7:23pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on February 21st, 2013 @ 7:23pm CST
Well I may be in the minority, but I really like Obsidian. The color scheme is quite accurate, and the fact they are including these characters into MW lore is actually very interesting.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466301)
Posted by RAcast on February 21st, 2013 @ 7:27pm CST
Still looks better in green.
Posted by RAcast on February 21st, 2013 @ 7:27pm CST
GreenLantern of Cybertron wrote:
Just a 15 sec digibash to see if it worked in the better colours.
Still looks better in green.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466306)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on February 21st, 2013 @ 8:16pm CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on February 21st, 2013 @ 8:16pm CST
hasbro really likes that mold dont they, looks good but not worth the price of admission
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466312)
Posted by Blackstreak on February 21st, 2013 @ 8:44pm CST
Posted by Blackstreak on February 21st, 2013 @ 8:44pm CST
I'm sorry, is this a Machine Wars update set or Beast Machines? Both Strika and Obsidian never made an appearance until Beast Machines. I'm not complaining mind you, I'm just trying to sort out some confusion here.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466314)
Posted by RAcast on February 21st, 2013 @ 8:50pm CST
MACHINE WARS
MW takes place AFTER G1/G2 but BEFORE The Great Reformatting.
Strika and Obsidian were THE GREATEST GENERALS IN THE HISTORY OF CYBERTRON according to Beast Machines.
But we never saw ANY of it.
They are being worked into the brand new MACHINE WARS stories.
People, we've gotten TWO characters from BM. TWO. Two characters who have a place in G1 cannon, but who have never seen it realized before. MACHINE WARS. NOT BEAST MACHINES.
Sorry, it's just a tad frustrating seeing that questioned asked so many times, when it's clearly answered already.
Edit: This isn't directed directly at you. It's for everyone. It's just kind of annoying me that people don't get it. It's in the blasted TITLE. Machine Wars.
For those who don't know.
Machine Wars was a short-lived (1 wave) toy line that occurred in the middle of the Beast Wars toyline and was a KB toys exclusive. There was NEVER any associated story material outside of the toys bios. That's what this Botcon is seeking to rectify.
Posted by RAcast on February 21st, 2013 @ 8:50pm CST
Blackstreak wrote:I'm sorry, is this a Machine Wars update set or Beast Machines? Both Strika and Obsidian never made an appearance until Beast Machines. I'm not complaining mind you, I'm just trying to sort out some confusion here.
MACHINE WARS
MW takes place AFTER G1/G2 but BEFORE The Great Reformatting.
Strika and Obsidian were THE GREATEST GENERALS IN THE HISTORY OF CYBERTRON according to Beast Machines.
But we never saw ANY of it.
They are being worked into the brand new MACHINE WARS stories.
People, we've gotten TWO characters from BM. TWO. Two characters who have a place in G1 cannon, but who have never seen it realized before. MACHINE WARS. NOT BEAST MACHINES.
Sorry, it's just a tad frustrating seeing that questioned asked so many times, when it's clearly answered already.
Edit: This isn't directed directly at you. It's for everyone. It's just kind of annoying me that people don't get it. It's in the blasted TITLE. Machine Wars.
For those who don't know.
Machine Wars was a short-lived (1 wave) toy line that occurred in the middle of the Beast Wars toyline and was a KB toys exclusive. There was NEVER any associated story material outside of the toys bios. That's what this Botcon is seeking to rectify.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466315)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2013 @ 8:51pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2013 @ 8:51pm CST
Strika was in the G1-era "Flames of Yesterday" story.RAcast wrote:Two characters who have a place in G1 cannon, but who have never seen it realized before.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466316)
Posted by RAcast on February 21st, 2013 @ 8:52pm CST
Okay, fair enough, fair enough. But you know what I mean.
Posted by RAcast on February 21st, 2013 @ 8:52pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Strika was in the G1-era "Flames of Yesterday" story.RAcast wrote:Two characters who have a place in G1 cannon, but who have never seen it realized before.
Okay, fair enough, fair enough. But you know what I mean.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466323)
Posted by craggy on February 21st, 2013 @ 9:22pm CST
Posted by craggy on February 21st, 2013 @ 9:22pm CST
I'm only counting 3. who'd I miss? I've seen kermit here, strika and hoist.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466324)
Posted by Flashwave on February 21st, 2013 @ 9:23pm CST
Actually, I seem to recall Obsidian is actually hovering, his feet/tail is about a half a head off the ground, which means for all intents and purposes he appears to be Strika's height...
I really liked this figure until someone mentioned Incinerator, and now i want an Incinerator repaint, but if I recall, isn't that figure now wrapped in movie related red tape, (licensing?) or is there some other reason we haven't gotten a reapint out of it? The Lugnut repaint is a good use of the Lugnut mold, a figure arguably trapped bu its own uniqueness. The Highbrow figure I like, but I just nabbed Powerdive and as cool as it is, and I like the Obsidian paint scheme, i just don't want to sully Powerdive...
Too bad Obsidian didn't maintain the flight helmet gimic of his moldmates' heads..
Posted by Flashwave on February 21st, 2013 @ 9:23pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Nay, he was taller.Mindmaster wrote:I dig the new head sculpt, but traditionally, Obsidian was a but shorter than Strika.
Only his toy was puny.Could be due to the lighting but...Mindmaster wrote:I don't recall Obsidian being that neon.
Actually, I seem to recall Obsidian is actually hovering, his feet/tail is about a half a head off the ground, which means for all intents and purposes he appears to be Strika's height...
I really liked this figure until someone mentioned Incinerator, and now i want an Incinerator repaint, but if I recall, isn't that figure now wrapped in movie related red tape, (licensing?) or is there some other reason we haven't gotten a reapint out of it? The Lugnut repaint is a good use of the Lugnut mold, a figure arguably trapped bu its own uniqueness. The Highbrow figure I like, but I just nabbed Powerdive and as cool as it is, and I like the Obsidian paint scheme, i just don't want to sully Powerdive...
Too bad Obsidian didn't maintain the flight helmet gimic of his moldmates' heads..
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466325)
Posted by RAcast on February 21st, 2013 @ 9:27pm CST
Hoist, Skywarp, Strika, and Obsidian so far.
Posted by RAcast on February 21st, 2013 @ 9:27pm CST
craggy wrote:I'm only counting 3. who'd I miss? I've seen kermit here, strika and hoist.
Hoist, Skywarp, Strika, and Obsidian so far.
Re: The Fourth Figure Revealed in the BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Box Set is Obsidian (1466326)
Posted by Rated X on February 21st, 2013 @ 9:27pm CST
I have a feeling they went for the toy accurate bright green because the cartoon accurate drab green would make it look too much like GDO Powerdive.
Posted by Rated X on February 21st, 2013 @ 9:27pm CST
GreenLantern of Cybertron wrote:
Just a 15 sec digibash to see if it worked in the better colours.
I have a feeling they went for the toy accurate bright green because the cartoon accurate drab green would make it look too much like GDO Powerdive.
