Additional footage of the Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Series; Panel footage, featuring Fembot Maxima #SDCC #HasbroSDCC
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Re: Additional footage of the Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Series; Panel footage, featuring Fembot Maxima #SDCC #HasbroSDCC
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Comment by Kurona
Jul 21, 2016
Clip starts at 1:49
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Comment by Kurona
Jul 21, 2016
Anyone else finding themselves getting less and less excited for this?
I mean... I'll watch it, and I'm sure I'll find something to enjoy about it, but ehhh... since that Windblade preview I've not exactly had as easy a time getting myself hyped for this.
I mean... I'll watch it, and I'm sure I'll find something to enjoy about it, but ehhh... since that Windblade preview I've not exactly had as easy a time getting myself hyped for this.
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Comment by Autobot N
Jul 21, 2016
It happened as soon as I saw the clips with Windblade standing over Computron and slicing off Menasor's arm with ease. I was ready to enjoy this series, I was even able to disregard Windblade being the main character (though it did kinda annoy me). But this? This is absurd.Kurona wrote:Anyone else finding themselves getting less and less excited for this?
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Comment by Deadput
Jul 21, 2016
At least it's a new character instead of Optimus or Bumblebee being the main character for the billionth time.
I'm going to watch this show to be entertained not looking for a grand story and I'll be happy that way.
I'm going to watch this show to be entertained not looking for a grand story and I'll be happy that way.
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Comment by jamarmiller
Jul 21, 2016
this is awesome ! I love this clip.
Super excited. Sad though its only 40 minutes arghhhhh
Super excited. Sad though its only 40 minutes arghhhhh
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Comment by ausbot
Jul 21, 2016
Looks great, cannot wait.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 21, 2016
Stop missing the point, man. It doesn't matter that she's a new character or not. The thing we don't like about this is that it's taking the brand new character that many of us know and love and depicting her in a negative light. The naive, altruistic, optimistic, and dutiful Windblade from the comics, whose personality we were hoping to see reflected here, has been reduced to a homicidal psychopathic maniac. Even disregarding the personality of IDW Windblade, that kind of personality is never acceptable for our main heroic protagonist gateway character, especially in a work related to a children's toy brand. She's basically an Arcee knockoff at this point, and no one wanted that. Just because it's doing something different doesn't automatically make it good.Deadput wrote:At least it's a new character instead of Optimus or Bumblebee being the main character for the billionth time.
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I know we disagree a lot but thank you for putting my thoughts into words better than my attempts earlier
Comment by Kurona
Jul 21, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:Stop missing the point, man. It doesn't matter that she's a new character or not. The thing we don't like about this is that it's taking the brand new character that many of us know and love and depicting her in a negative light. The naive, altruistic, optimistic, and dutiful Windblade from the comics, whose personality we were hoping to see reflected here, has been reduced to a homicidal psychopathic maniac. Even disregarding the personality of IDW Windblade, that kind of personality is never acceptable for our main heroic protagonist gateway character, especially in a work related to a children's toy brand. She's basically an Arcee knockoff at this point, and no one wanted that. Just because it's doing something different doesn't automatically make it good.Deadput wrote:At least it's a new character instead of Optimus or Bumblebee being the main character for the billionth time.
I know we disagree a lot but thank you for putting my thoughts into words better than my attempts earlier
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Comment by Delicon
Jul 21, 2016
Here's my thoughts.
First, the animation is great. It looks modern but has the G1 feel at the same time.
The length is a major bummer. This whole series we've been waiting for is as long as 2 standard episodes? Why were they not upfront about it? It's not even the length of a TV movie or miniseries.
As far as the voices go, we honestly didn't hear many but let me tackle the Optimus Prime voice. They really dropped the ball here. It seems obvious they didn't want to pay Peter Cullen. Anyone who has heard Jon Bailey's Optimus voice knows that it is the next best thing and actually sounds more like G1 Prime than Cullen himself has in recent years. The problem is that this isn't Bailey's Prime voice, it's a very generic sounding voice that really misses the mark. I would hope that we'll get more G1 based animation in the future and a real series and hopefully Jon can return as Optimus and do the voice the way he has before.
First, the animation is great. It looks modern but has the G1 feel at the same time.
The length is a major bummer. This whole series we've been waiting for is as long as 2 standard episodes? Why were they not upfront about it? It's not even the length of a TV movie or miniseries.
As far as the voices go, we honestly didn't hear many but let me tackle the Optimus Prime voice. They really dropped the ball here. It seems obvious they didn't want to pay Peter Cullen. Anyone who has heard Jon Bailey's Optimus voice knows that it is the next best thing and actually sounds more like G1 Prime than Cullen himself has in recent years. The problem is that this isn't Bailey's Prime voice, it's a very generic sounding voice that really misses the mark. I would hope that we'll get more G1 based animation in the future and a real series and hopefully Jon can return as Optimus and do the voice the way he has before.
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Comment by fenrir72
Jul 21, 2016
One small fault I find, nitpicking but Menasor doesn't have the titanic echoing sound I'd like to expect like when you heard Devs shout "Prepare for eXXterminAtion!" in the 1986 movie. Aside from that, the animation is AWESOME!
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jul 21, 2016
I do like the animation. I'm looking forward to the show
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Comment by gantzrunner
Jul 21, 2016
Jeez the animation looks beautiful, but it is so chopy it irritates my eyes. Look, we know it's 3d, so can we stop the practice of ditching frames to try and make it look like traditional animation? It feels like watching a clip on a bad connection, not quite buffering but not running smooth either. Hopefully the official release will look better, but there are a lot of animated shows that handle cg this way so I'm worried.
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THIS!!!!
I saw Windblade taking off Manassor's Arm with her Sword and immediately got turned off... I'm loosing a lot of faith in this show. Not that I really had much to start.
Comment by YoungPrime
Jul 21, 2016
Autobot N wrote:Seriously? If Windblade can take down Combiners that easily, then why are they a huge threat in the first place?
THIS!!!!
I saw Windblade taking off Manassor's Arm with her Sword and immediately got turned off... I'm loosing a lot of faith in this show. Not that I really had much to start.
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Yeah, I can see some clueless exec at a Hasbro board meeting going, "Yeah...lets make her the She-Ra of the TF Universe! I'm telling you, fans will love it!"
*Shudders with revolution*
I honestly think that's what Hasbro believes we want to see. Trust me if it wasn't her being forced down our throats then it would've been Bumblebee. Why?
Because Hasbro are idiots that why! Remember they had a station all to themselves and we all know how that turned out. So their input in this show isn't turning out to be much better.
Comment by YoungPrime
Jul 21, 2016
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Really? Not this video crap again.
But really? Windblade can just cut down combiners like that? sheesh!
Yeah, I can see some clueless exec at a Hasbro board meeting going, "Yeah...lets make her the She-Ra of the TF Universe! I'm telling you, fans will love it!"
*Shudders with revolution*
Sigma Magnus wrote:Well...she wants to kill all combiners. Maybe she just made anti-combiner weapons to help with that?
I honestly think that's what Hasbro believes we want to see. Trust me if it wasn't her being forced down our throats then it would've been Bumblebee. Why?
Because Hasbro are idiots that why! Remember they had a station all to themselves and we all know how that turned out. So their input in this show isn't turning out to be much better.
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I was really confused when I saw this quote wondering what the hell I said and when.
Now I get it. the video not working for other counties hence "video crap."
And yeah, kinda a bit overpowered she is, at least I think so
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jul 21, 2016
YoungPrime wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Really? Not this video crap again.
But really? Windblade can just cut down combiners like that? sheesh!
Yeah, I can see some clueless exec at a Hasbro board meeting going, "Yeah...lets make her the She-Ra of the TF Universe! I'm telling you, fans will love it!"
*Shudders with revolution*
I was really confused when I saw this quote wondering what the hell I said and when.
Now I get it. the video not working for other counties hence "video crap."
And yeah, kinda a bit overpowered she is, at least I think so
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 21, 2016
There's something else about the animation I feel is worth mentioning, but it's something that might make folks re-think their positive opinions about it. We were told previously that the animation for this would be in an anime style. Upon watching the video, I kept that in mind and at first thought "This doesn't look like an anime at all. It looks like a normal cel-shaded CGI Western cartoon."
BUT... Then I noticed the mouth movement, and went "Oh... OH! So that's what they meant by... Oh... Oh no... Oh NO! No. No no no no no no nonononononoooooo!"
That mouth movement is exactly the same kind of underdetailed featureless mouth movement that is common to many anime, and which we got back in both Energon and Cybertron.
BUT... Then I noticed the mouth movement, and went "Oh... OH! So that's what they meant by... Oh... Oh no... Oh NO! No. No no no no no no nonononononoooooo!"
That mouth movement is exactly the same kind of underdetailed featureless mouth movement that is common to many anime, and which we got back in both Energon and Cybertron.

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I have seen worse. Not from a Transformers cartoon, but I have seen something. Something that makes Energon look like a film from Studio Ghibli.
Comment by Decepticon Stryker
Jul 21, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:There's something else about the animation I feel is worth mentioning, but it's something that might make folks re-think their positive opinions about it. We were told previously that the animation for this would be in an anime style. Upon watching the video, I kept that in mind and at first thought "This doesn't look like an anime at all. It looks like a normal cel-shaded CGI Western cartoon."
BUT... Then I noticed the mouth movement, and went "Oh... OH! So that's what they meant by... Oh... Oh no... Oh NO! No. No no no no no no nonononononoooooo!"
That mouth movement is exactly the same kind of underdetailed featureless mouth movement that is common to many anime, and which we got back in both Energon and Cybertron.
I have seen worse. Not from a Transformers cartoon, but I have seen something. Something that makes Energon look like a film from Studio Ghibli.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 21, 2016
Yes yes, we know there's animation out there as bad as Food Fight, but that doesn't change the fact that Energon-grade animation is still bad.Decepticon Stryker wrote:I have seen worse. Not from a Transformers cartoon, but I have seen something. Something that makes Energon look like a film from Studio Ghibli.
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Thank you for not making me say the title to that abomination. I die a little every time I say it. But yeah, mouth movement is Energon-like, but the rest looks rather good in my opinion. Yes it's kinda sluggish, but still better than Energon.
Comment by Decepticon Stryker
Jul 21, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:Yes yes, we know there's animation out there as bad as Food Fight, but that doesn't change the fact that Energon-grade animation is still bad.Decepticon Stryker wrote:I have seen worse. Not from a Transformers cartoon, but I have seen something. Something that makes Energon look like a film from Studio Ghibli.
Thank you for not making me say the title to that abomination. I die a little every time I say it. But yeah, mouth movement is Energon-like, but the rest looks rather good in my opinion. Yes it's kinda sluggish, but still better than Energon.
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"Murder crazy"?
Her and Chromia together couldn't even beat Starscream in Windblade Vol. 1. Now they have her chopping off Combiner limbs..... Defend this all you like but if that wasn't some type of dream sequence or "danger room battle". I might be done with this show before it even starts.
The Developers of this show should know better.
Comment by YoungPrime
Jul 21, 2016
Xarmech wrote:I see Maxima fighting Menasor, but I don't see her anywhere else in the trailer. I hope they don't pull a "Cliffjumper" and kill her off before we get to know her.
P.S. Starscream sounds more like his G1 character, why so mad, and Windblade has been murder crazy in the comics before and at least she's not like her RID counterpart.
"Murder crazy"?
Her and Chromia together couldn't even beat Starscream in Windblade Vol. 1. Now they have her chopping off Combiner limbs..... Defend this all you like but if that wasn't some type of dream sequence or "danger room battle". I might be done with this show before it even starts.
The Developers of this show should know better.