Comparison Between the 2 ROTB Nightbird Deluxe Toys
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
Oct 17, 2023
I thought Mainline Nightbird was tiny.
Holy crap the SS!
And, man, she carry a whole scrapyard on her back.
I may still get SS Nightbird, but only on sale.
Holy crap the SS!
And, man, she carry a whole scrapyard on her back.
I may still get SS Nightbird, but only on sale.
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Comment by Hero Alpha
Oct 17, 2023
That is why I dont collect movie figures. Not enough, if any, cooperation between the CGI guys and toy designers. I love Nightbird's car mode as the Skyline is one of my fav cars, but that bot mode, damn.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Oct 17, 2023
I still do not understand how they dropped the ball so badly on Mirage and Nightbird. Nightbird literally had wings to help with kibble, and they basically did nothing with it.
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Comment by DeathReviews
Oct 17, 2023
I'm cautiously optimistic. They've messed over the leader figures pretty badly lately, making them glorified voyagers with a few badly-planned accessories tossed in to fool customers into thinking they're not being gypped. If they make it a decent G1 tribute, it could be good. But I keep asking myself - are there any Triple changers has Hasbro really done well lately...?


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I like Galaxy Shuttle.
And don't know if this is too far back, but I feel Snap Dragon was well executed.
Doesn't really matter much here though, the alt modes for this Megatron are made up, it will probably be the same base vehicle but it having two modes (like land and air mode).
Comment by william-james88
Oct 17, 2023
DeathReviews wrote:I'm cautiously optimistic. They've messed over the leader figures pretty badly lately, making them glorified voyagers with a few badly-planned accessories tossed in to fool customers into thinking they're not being gypped. If they make it a decent G1 tribute, it could be good. But I keep asking myself - are there any Triple changers has Hasbro really done well lately...?
I like Galaxy Shuttle.
And don't know if this is too far back, but I feel Snap Dragon was well executed.
Doesn't really matter much here though, the alt modes for this Megatron are made up, it will probably be the same base vehicle but it having two modes (like land and air mode).
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Comment by EvasionModeBumblebee
Oct 17, 2023
Just upgraded my Blackout and Scorponok, adding the hands from my junker Grindor and reworking my paint in robot mode!
The updated hands make this figure so much better, I was hoping the recent Decepticon 4-pack Blackout would include them. Kind of along that same vein, if we were to get a newly released figure using an old mold, what updates would you like to see? For example, if we get a Desert Brawl from DOTM, I hope they can do something about the tank turret hanging out in SS Brawl's robot mode. I'd be ok if it was detachable!
The updated hands make this figure so much better, I was hoping the recent Decepticon 4-pack Blackout would include them. Kind of along that same vein, if we were to get a newly released figure using an old mold, what updates would you like to see? For example, if we get a Desert Brawl from DOTM, I hope they can do something about the tank turret hanging out in SS Brawl's robot mode. I'd be ok if it was detachable!
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Gypped…wow. We’re not being “gypped” with the current leaders. And by current I mean the last 5 years because that’s how long it’s been. The leader class since WFC literally weighs the same as the visibly hallowed out leaders of the prime wars. Ya know, the figures that we’re lucky if they had stuff like wrist and waist swivels and hallowed out in the back. They are still using the same amount of mold sheets on leaders but they are focused on scale with others and on an engineering level. Instead of getting a figure thats tall and core class level articulation you’re getting a solid figure with a bunch of articulation and accessories you apparently don’t care for which that’s on you that’s not on the figures. Sorry they’re not asking you what you personally want but to be real, hasbro should never listen to fans that have your mentality because you really don’t deserve 5 seconds of their time.
However considering it’s 2023 and you’re complaining about this I imagine many people have explained this many times and you just don’t care or wanna listen.
Comment by Randomhero
Oct 18, 2023
DeathReviews wrote:I'm cautiously optimistic. They've messed over the leader figures pretty badly lately, making them glorified voyagers with a few badly-planned accessories tossed in to fool customers into thinking they're not being gypped. If they make it a decent G1 tribute, it could be good. But I keep asking myself - are there any Triple changers has Hasbro really done well lately...?
Gypped…wow. We’re not being “gypped” with the current leaders. And by current I mean the last 5 years because that’s how long it’s been. The leader class since WFC literally weighs the same as the visibly hallowed out leaders of the prime wars. Ya know, the figures that we’re lucky if they had stuff like wrist and waist swivels and hallowed out in the back. They are still using the same amount of mold sheets on leaders but they are focused on scale with others and on an engineering level. Instead of getting a figure thats tall and core class level articulation you’re getting a solid figure with a bunch of articulation and accessories you apparently don’t care for which that’s on you that’s not on the figures. Sorry they’re not asking you what you personally want but to be real, hasbro should never listen to fans that have your mentality because you really don’t deserve 5 seconds of their time.
However considering it’s 2023 and you’re complaining about this I imagine many people have explained this many times and you just don’t care or wanna listen.
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Comment by Brokebot
Oct 18, 2023
Randomhero wrote:Gypped…wow. We’re not being “gypped” with the current leaders. And by current I mean the last 5 years because that’s how long it’s been. The leader class since WFC literally weighs the same as the visibly hallowed out leaders of the prime wars. Ya know, the figures that we’re lucky if they had stuff like wrist and waist swivels and hallowed out in the back. They are still using the same amount of mold sheets on leaders but they are focused on scale with others and on an engineering level. Instead of getting a figure thats tall and core class level articulation you’re getting a solid figure with a bunch of articulation and accessories you apparently don’t care for which that’s on you that’s not on the figures. Sorry they’re not asking you what you personally want but to be real, hasbro should never listen to fans that have your mentality because you really don’t deserve 5 seconds of their time.
However considering it’s 2023 and you’re complaining about this I imagine many people have explained this many times and you just don’t care or wanna listen.

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Comment by Dominus Prime
Oct 18, 2023
I really wish SS would scale with the mainline. Always smaller. Only exception that comes to mind is buzzworthy rotb optimus
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Comment by william-james88
Oct 20, 2023
I'll write this here since it's a Studio Series figure as well as being Buzzworthy:
Man, that SS102 Prime toy might probably be the most hubub made for such a mid toy. Maybe it's time to revise my most overrated Transformers list. That alt mode is rough and I don't see any advantage to having the legs get that transformation when it would have looked better if they remained the same in alt mode (like other more basic optimus toys). Plus they have the alt mode kibble on his shoulders to represent the guards but it turns out to be fake kibble that doesn't end up in alt mode, leaving that mode even more innacurate. The decisions on this toy are baffling.
Also, with hasbro so enamored with their new way of having Optimus' gas tanks flip out in alt mode and then receed back into his things in robot mode, they should really add a locking mechanic to it.
Man, that SS102 Prime toy might probably be the most hubub made for such a mid toy. Maybe it's time to revise my most overrated Transformers list. That alt mode is rough and I don't see any advantage to having the legs get that transformation when it would have looked better if they remained the same in alt mode (like other more basic optimus toys). Plus they have the alt mode kibble on his shoulders to represent the guards but it turns out to be fake kibble that doesn't end up in alt mode, leaving that mode even more innacurate. The decisions on this toy are baffling.
Also, with hasbro so enamored with their new way of having Optimus' gas tanks flip out in alt mode and then receed back into his things in robot mode, they should really add a locking mechanic to it.
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As bad as the truck mode was, at least both modes look accurate enough like they were seen in the movie.
I'm going Yolopark's AMK all the way for ROTB. It was a mistake to start design of the SS figures BEFORE the movie's out. The movie's "due to Covid" etc. delay is no excuse. Hasbro can come up with various mainline/gimmick figures to coincide with the movie's premiere, and leave the SS's 2022-2023 releases for the many, many Bay/Knight bots that fans are still waiting for. Hasbro was just painting themselves into a corner to have the ROTB mainline & SS figures "one year apart" and have many of the SS figures looking NOTHING like they were seen in the movie.
Comment by cloudballoon
Oct 20, 2023
william-james88 wrote:I'll write this here since it's a Studio Series figure as well as being Buzzworthy:
Man, that SS102 Prime toy might probably be the most hubub made for such a mid toy. Maybe it's time to revise my most overrated Transformers list. That alt mode is rough and I don't see any advantage to having the legs get that transformation when it would have looked better if they remained the same in alt mode (like other more basic optimus toys). Plus they have the alt mode kibble on his shoulders to represent the guards but it turns out to be fake kibble that doesn't end up in alt mode, leaving that mode even more innacurate. The decisions on this toy are baffling.
Also, with hasbro so enamored with their new way of having Optimus' gas tanks flip out in alt mode and then receed back into his things in robot mode, they should really add a locking mechanic to it.
As bad as the truck mode was, at least both modes look accurate enough like they were seen in the movie.
I'm going Yolopark's AMK all the way for ROTB. It was a mistake to start design of the SS figures BEFORE the movie's out. The movie's "due to Covid" etc. delay is no excuse. Hasbro can come up with various mainline/gimmick figures to coincide with the movie's premiere, and leave the SS's 2022-2023 releases for the many, many Bay/Knight bots that fans are still waiting for. Hasbro was just painting themselves into a corner to have the ROTB mainline & SS figures "one year apart" and have many of the SS figures looking NOTHING like they were seen in the movie.
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Comment by Munkky
Oct 21, 2023
Seeing as we know from JtPrime's leaks that a new TLK Drift is on the way, I decided to buy a Crosshairs this week, and he arrived today. I like him a lot more than I thought I would, the transformation is a bit of a pain, but the car mode is excellent, and kibble and shell-forming issues aside the robot mode is pretty nice too. He's a much darker shade of green than he appears in the official images, not only does he stand out on the shelf but his green really compliments the red and blue on Optimus and the yellow on Bumblebee.
Drift, Mohawk, and maybe 1986 Springer are the only Studio Series toys I plan on buying next year, unless of course Hasbro pulls a blinder and reveals something amazing that hasn't been leaked yet.
Drift, Mohawk, and maybe 1986 Springer are the only Studio Series toys I plan on buying next year, unless of course Hasbro pulls a blinder and reveals something amazing that hasn't been leaked yet.
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Comment by Quantum Surge
Oct 21, 2023
Guys, clearly that is not Megatron. That is MegaMIND using a Megatron disguise. The blue is what it looks like without the silver that is used initially to fool everyone in thinking he's around and not on Earth MIA.
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Comment by EvasionModeBumblebee
Oct 21, 2023
I'd like to share something with you all I've spent a long time working on with a whole team of Bay fans!
This is a fan-run movement campaigning for the release of Studio Series figures for the remainder of characters from Michael Bay's Transformers films!
Why are we doing this?
In 2018, the Transformers Studio Series toyline kicked off, delivering unbelievably accurate representations of both fan-favorite and lesser known characters from the live-action films. With incredible figures such as Bumblebee, Blackout, Jetfire, Ironhide and even Devastator, it was hard to argue against Studio Series being the ultimate line for fans of the live action Transformers movies.
After its first three years, Studio Series began to expand beyond the live action films and into other media, including the 1986 animated movie and War for Cybertron video games. While it has been great to see characters from these series receive the same screen-accurate treatment, it has also come with a significant reduction in the presence of characters from the Michael Bay films in the line, bringing a halt to the incredible progress made across Studio Series’ first three years.
Since Studio Series’ mission statement has always been to build the ultimate cast of Transformers characters, and there still remains a significant roster of both fan-favorite and lesser known characters from the Michael Bay films, we the fans are kicking off the #BacktoBaysics campaign to respectfully ask that the Studio Series line give renewed attention to the movies that started it all, and more steadily deliver the remaining cast of characters, including Que, Hound, the Dinobots, TLK Barricade, and more.
#BackToBaysics will share content across numerous platforms to recognize the many heavily-anticipated Bayverse characters yet to join the Studio Series lineup. By shedding light on these characters of all shapes and sizes that all have their fans, we hope to demonstrate the strong demand that exists for their addition to Studio Series.
We have a team running the central operation, but this won't work without you!
How can you help?
Discuss what Bay characters you most want to see in Studio Series' future, what scenes you'd like to complete, and how you'd like those figures to appear! This campaign stretches beyond TFW, so be sure to share your thoughts anywhere you post with #BacktoBaysics!
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION:
It is not the goal of this campaign to diminish any of the existing films/continuities or sublines currently in Studio Series. Our focus is instead on balancing the number of existing continuities already in Studio Series to see more of our remaining Bayverse cast each year.
With that out of the way, here's our list of remaining Bayverse characters that can be covered in Studio Series! We tried to focus on characters that appeared on screen and what we felt would be realistic for Studio Series to cover. If you're interested in characters that aren't mentioned here but were in the Bay movies, we'd love to hear about them!
This is a fan-run movement campaigning for the release of Studio Series figures for the remainder of characters from Michael Bay's Transformers films!
Why are we doing this?
In 2018, the Transformers Studio Series toyline kicked off, delivering unbelievably accurate representations of both fan-favorite and lesser known characters from the live-action films. With incredible figures such as Bumblebee, Blackout, Jetfire, Ironhide and even Devastator, it was hard to argue against Studio Series being the ultimate line for fans of the live action Transformers movies.
After its first three years, Studio Series began to expand beyond the live action films and into other media, including the 1986 animated movie and War for Cybertron video games. While it has been great to see characters from these series receive the same screen-accurate treatment, it has also come with a significant reduction in the presence of characters from the Michael Bay films in the line, bringing a halt to the incredible progress made across Studio Series’ first three years.
Since Studio Series’ mission statement has always been to build the ultimate cast of Transformers characters, and there still remains a significant roster of both fan-favorite and lesser known characters from the Michael Bay films, we the fans are kicking off the #BacktoBaysics campaign to respectfully ask that the Studio Series line give renewed attention to the movies that started it all, and more steadily deliver the remaining cast of characters, including Que, Hound, the Dinobots, TLK Barricade, and more.
#BackToBaysics will share content across numerous platforms to recognize the many heavily-anticipated Bayverse characters yet to join the Studio Series lineup. By shedding light on these characters of all shapes and sizes that all have their fans, we hope to demonstrate the strong demand that exists for their addition to Studio Series.
We have a team running the central operation, but this won't work without you!
How can you help?
Discuss what Bay characters you most want to see in Studio Series' future, what scenes you'd like to complete, and how you'd like those figures to appear! This campaign stretches beyond TFW, so be sure to share your thoughts anywhere you post with #BacktoBaysics!
IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION:
It is not the goal of this campaign to diminish any of the existing films/continuities or sublines currently in Studio Series. Our focus is instead on balancing the number of existing continuities already in Studio Series to see more of our remaining Bayverse cast each year.
With that out of the way, here's our list of remaining Bayverse characters that can be covered in Studio Series! We tried to focus on characters that appeared on screen and what we felt would be realistic for Studio Series to cover. If you're interested in characters that aren't mentioned here but were in the Bay movies, we'd love to hear about them!
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Comment by Quantum Surge
Oct 21, 2023
All I want are Core Class Frenzy and Dispensor, the Twins, Commandemolishor, Que, Hatchet, Devcon, the remaining AOE forms of Prime and Bee (including a proper High Octane), both Hounds, Car Drift, the Dinobots, Junkheap, the Traxes, Dreadbot, Mohawk, Onslaught, and an Infernocus that is smaller than Devastator because he is nowhere near as cool as Devastator.
And even though these films are produced rather than directed by Bay, I'll take a larger Beewun Thoccwave and a Commander Class Stratosphere.
And even though these films are produced rather than directed by Bay, I'll take a larger Beewun Thoccwave and a Commander Class Stratosphere.
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Comment by cloudballoon
Oct 21, 2023
I'd say start with getting the Dinobots first, as compared to SS Grimlock, the mainline deluxe Dinobots are just way too out of scale and the Voyager Scorn color scheme is not screen accurate enough.
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Yes, Dinobots are a priority since they started the line off with one of them and haven't added to that subset since
Comment by william-james88
Oct 22, 2023
cloudballoon wrote:I'd say start with getting the Dinobots first, as compared to SS Grimlock, the mainline deluxe Dinobots are just way too out of scale and the Voyager Scorn color scheme is not screen accurate enough.
Yes, Dinobots are a priority since they started the line off with one of them and haven't added to that subset since
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I would love to have a proper lineup of leaders AoE dinobots. Once Leader SS86 Swoop is done, they should get on with it.
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Oct 22, 2023
william-james88 wrote:cloudballoon wrote:I'd say start with getting the Dinobots first, as compared to SS Grimlock, the mainline deluxe Dinobots are just way too out of scale and the Voyager Scorn color scheme is not screen accurate enough.
Yes, Dinobots are a priority since they started the line off with one of them and haven't added to that subset since
I would love to have a proper lineup of leaders AoE dinobots. Once Leader SS86 Swoop is done, they should get on with it.
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Comment by chuckdawg1999
Oct 22, 2023
I think there's a reason the Dinobots haven't been finished or continued that's above and beyond our pay grade.
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SS Grimlock is getting a release in the Buzzworthy subline. So it's not due to lack of demand imo, nor there's that added brand licensing profit-eating aspect that Hasbro has to deal with many of the autobots.
Comment by cloudballoon
Oct 22, 2023
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think there's a reason the Dinobots haven't been finished or continued that's above and beyond our pay grade.
SS Grimlock is getting a release in the Buzzworthy subline. So it's not due to lack of demand imo, nor there's that added brand licensing profit-eating aspect that Hasbro has to deal with many of the autobots.