Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki

Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise).

The placement of the symbol on his chest makes me wonder if they had at one point intended for him to be the same character or perhaps somehow related to Lio Convoy. It's interesting to see him looking so G1 (head, square chest window, grill abs) despite being a Maximal. I guess if this is an early sketch it would make sense that he would look to existing figures and characters for a little inspiration.

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fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise).

Sabr, just from what future did Fireconvoy come from anyway? In the Japanese continuity anyway? Lio and Big came thousands of years after Primal if I got it right. So what about well these guys?

Continuity, CR is supposed to slot in between G1 season2 and the movie, according to TFWiki, with some of Takara's creative edtting and a story that seems to "magic" everyone away for a time.

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Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise).

Sabr, just from what future did Fireconvoy come from anyway? In the Japanese continuity anyway? Lio and Big came thousands of years after Primal if I got it right. So what about well these guys?

It's never stated. Though, Fire Convoy did mention that he and Gigatron had known each other for 3000 years, but that could suggest a number of things.

3000 years................

awesome

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise).

Sabr, just from what future did Fireconvoy come from anyway? In the Japanese continuity anyway? Lio and Big came thousands of years after Primal if I got it right. So what about well these guys?

It's never stated. Though, Fire Convoy did mention that he and Gigatron had known each other for 3000 years, but that could suggest a number of things.

3000 years................

They could have known each since before the era of the and . Though, as Fire Convoy was still a , perhaps only Gigatron and his team upgraded from to while Fire Convoy's stayed as . It's possible they could have come from a post-Beast Wars Returns, pre-Beast Wars II future era.

Like Protoman had said? http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/the-true-transformers-g1-timeline-what-to-watch-and-in-what-order-t102036.php#p1613182

william-james88 wrote:Like Protoman had said? http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/the-true-transformers-g1-timeline-what-to-watch-and-in-what-order-t102036.php#p1613182

Only sort of. It isn't outright stated what time period Fire Convoy's Cybertrons and Gigatron's Destrongers came from, but the Destrongers using the insignia would suggest a point after the Great Upgrade in the Japanese timeline. However, there's still the notion of the Destrongers still being large-sized Transformers instead of the human-sized ones that the Beast Wars characters were, so if the Destrongers did come from a / future era, we can only assume that, for whatever reason, they didn't downsize like the rest of 'em.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Like Protoman had said? http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/the-true-transformers-g1-timeline-what-to-watch-and-in-what-order-t102036.php#p1613182

Only sort of. It isn't outright stated what time period Fire Convoy's Cybertrons and Gigatron's Destrongers came from, but the Destrongers using the insignia would suggest a point after the Great Upgrade in the Japanese timeline. However, there's still the notion of the Destrongers still being large-sized Transformers instead of the human-sized ones that the Beast Wars characters were, so if the Destrongers did come from a / future era, we can only assume that, for whatever reason, they didn't downsize like the rest of 'em.

Oh, the way I understood was that RID was much much after Beast Wars (long enough for the world to get back to what it looked like in the early 2000s, starting from ashes) and thus in Transformers evolution, the Maximals and Predacons gave way to a new breed of autobot and decepticon which resembled the g1 transformers of old.

Be careful how you use "RID" instead of "Car Robots" since RID's in its own continuity while Car Robots is the one in the JG1 timeline.

Anyway, Car Robots is officially set in the year 2000 with its Cybertronian characters coming from a future era that's never been officially determined.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Be careful how you use "RID" instead of "Car Robots" since RID's in its own continuity while Car Robots is the one in the JG1 timeline.

Anyway, Car Robots is officially set in the year 2000 with its Cybertronian characters coming from a future era that's never been officially determined.

Oh man, this is so complicated. But thanks for not giving up on me Sabr.

Sure. Which part is confusing you?

NuclearConvoy wrote:I had no idea that Car Robots was actually in the JG1 continuity.

Yep. It just wasn't made clear until 2007 since, at the time, the show was mostly self-contained and didn't boast about what continuity it resided in, so most took its self-isolation to mean that it was a completely new continuity altogether. The English RID dub likewise took this idea to heart and ran with it.

But really, because it's so standalone, it's able to occur in the JG1 timeline in the year 2000 with virtually no conflict with other media, as there's a lot of time that occurs between 1985 (G1 cartoon seasons 1-2) and 2005 (G1 movie).