eBay now removing ALL KO auctions from listings
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May 30, 2008 at 4:03pm CDT
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Could this be HASBRO finally taking action against the KO problem that has infested the TF market for so long? Is this eBay taking action on their own to prevent the sale of possibly fraudulent items? Right now its anyone's guess.
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Comment by Nekoman
May 30, 2008
Rock on Hasbro! It’s about time.
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Comment by Autobotic9
May 30, 2008
Awww, I wanted that Mirage!
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Comment by Silverbolt
May 30, 2008
Shame I actually like collecting knockoffs that actually look like knockoffs. The clear tapes, and the 4 star seekers just as examples.
As long as it doesn't look like something Hasbro or Takara is releasing I'm fine with it.
As long as it doesn't look like something Hasbro or Takara is releasing I'm fine with it.
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Comment by Burn
May 30, 2008
But how are they going to differentiate between a KO and an original?
At the moment the majority of those KO auctions list themselves as "reissues".
Now i'm in favour of this, however i'm curious as to how it will be handled because it may force some of these sellers to try to start passing them off as legit genuine figures.
And what of a seller who actually does have a genuine MISB G1 Gnaw for sale? Will he be mistaken?
At the moment the majority of those KO auctions list themselves as "reissues".
Now i'm in favour of this, however i'm curious as to how it will be handled because it may force some of these sellers to try to start passing them off as legit genuine figures.
And what of a seller who actually does have a genuine MISB G1 Gnaw for sale? Will he be mistaken?
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Comment by Fussion
May 30, 2008
About #@%&ing time! 
I am tired of all the BS KO's on Ebay 
. My prayers have been answered! 
I am tired of all the BS KO's on Ebay . My prayers have been answered!
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Comment by DavidT
May 30, 2008
I don't know how I feel....
I've never bought any KO's off Ebay mainly cuz I didn't know the quality of the toy, but I have always been tempted to get KO Reissues of
Grimlock
Slag
Sludge
Swoop
Mirage
the Insecticons
I guess my choice was finally made for me.... oh well I strongly hope that they all find their way into the new Encore line, which is another reason I never bought any KO's. I missed out on the TFC Insecticons but I have no doubt they make it to Encore
I've never bought any KO's off Ebay mainly cuz I didn't know the quality of the toy, but I have always been tempted to get KO Reissues of
Grimlock
Slag
Sludge
Swoop
Mirage
the Insecticons
I guess my choice was finally made for me.... oh well I strongly hope that they all find their way into the new Encore line, which is another reason I never bought any KO's. I missed out on the TFC Insecticons but I have no doubt they make it to Encore
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Comment by Sledge
May 30, 2008
If this means Hasbro are going to sell the stuff that people have been buying, great. But they claim that half the molds are no longer viable, so how are people going to get that Mirage/Swoop/whatever?
Also, does this mean Hasbro will sort their distribution out properly? I wouldn't be considering buying a KO Alt Prowl if the figure had got a proper release in the UK.
Also, does this mean Hasbro will sort their distribution out properly? I wouldn't be considering buying a KO Alt Prowl if the figure had got a proper release in the UK.
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Comment by Menbailee
May 30, 2008
My only problem here is that the immediate removal would apply to knockoffs advertised as such. In those cases, there's at least honesty, even if I'm not happy that knockoffs have become expensive attempts at lookalikes rather than cheap novelties. The unwanted side effect will be more knockoffs passed as genuine. The people who do this are the ones who need to be stopped!
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Comment by Seibertron
May 30, 2008
And on that note, I bought the last clear KO Mirage that I've been wanting for a while. I'll need that to do the clear Binaltech gallery at some point.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-G1-Mir?mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1 ... m153.l1262
http://cgi.ebay.com/Transformers-G1-Mir?mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1 ... m153.l1262
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Why can't you just buy an official Binaltech or Alternator Prowl on eBay instead of a knock off?
Comment by Seibertron
May 30, 2008
Sledge wrote:If this means Hasbro are going to sell the stuff that people have been buying, great. But they claim that half the molds are no longer viable, so how are people going to get that Mirage/Swoop/whatever?
Also, does this mean Hasbro will sort their distribution out properly? I wouldn't be considering buying a KO Alt Prowl if the figure had got a proper release in the UK.
Why can't you just buy an official Binaltech or Alternator Prowl on eBay instead of a knock off?
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Comment by Scaleface
May 30, 2008
This might actually still be a bad thing for us collectors, because the knockoffs will still be listed on ebay, but the sellers will have to pretend the items are original. At least when they said it was a knockoff they were being honest sellers and we could bid for them accordingly. Now they'll have to sell the knockoff Mirages and Swoops as original! How does that help us collectors?
In fact I see a lot of ebay knockoff sellers who still have Swoops, Sludge and Mirages for sale. They are listed as "reissues", not knockoffs.
Besides, I love the knockoffs where they make changes to the original items. Like the red and gold Mirage, or the recently released gold chrome Smallest Starscream. He's lovely and Hasbro never made one, see attached.
In fact I see a lot of ebay knockoff sellers who still have Swoops, Sludge and Mirages for sale. They are listed as "reissues", not knockoffs.
Besides, I love the knockoffs where they make changes to the original items. Like the red and gold Mirage, or the recently released gold chrome Smallest Starscream. He's lovely and Hasbro never made one, see attached.
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My concerns exactly.
While I want to see KO's out of the market, I just feel it's going to force them to become more underhanded and people WILL be duped into thinking they're getting a genuine release.
Comment by Burn
May 30, 2008
Scaleface wrote:This might actually still be a bad thing for us collectors, because the knockoffs will still be listed on ebay, but the sellers will have to pretend the items are original. At least when they said it was a knockoff they were being honest sellers and we could bid for them accordingly. Now they'll have to see the knockoff Mirages and Swoops as original to stay on ebay. How does that help us collectors?
In fact I see a lot of ebay knockoff sellers who still have Swoops, Sludge and Mirages for sale. They are listed as "reissues", not knockoffs.
My concerns exactly.
While I want to see KO's out of the market, I just feel it's going to force them to become more underhanded and people WILL be duped into thinking they're getting a genuine release.
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Comment by Dread_Wing
May 30, 2008
I wonder how this will affect retailers? The Warehouse (NZ equivalent of Walmart, but not as big) has always stocked knockoffs. Right across from the Hasbro transformers a lot of the time.
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Quite right!
Only the honest sellers are being punished. There's no way for Ebay to know if something is real or not, and the buyer will know even less than before, on account of sellers using creative word play to avoid the ban.
For those of us lucky enough to have a fleamarket nearby, we can still get our knockoff kick. I feel bad for those that don't though.
Comment by ponycorn
May 30, 2008
Menbailee wrote:My only problem here is that the immediate removal would apply to knockoffs advertised as such. In those cases, there's at least honesty, even if I'm not happy that knockoffs have become expensive attempts at lookalikes rather than cheap novelties. The unwanted side effect will be more knockoffs passed as genuine. The people who do this are the ones who need to be stopped!
Quite right!
Only the honest sellers are being punished. There's no way for Ebay to know if something is real or not, and the buyer will know even less than before, on account of sellers using creative word play to avoid the ban.
For those of us lucky enough to have a fleamarket nearby, we can still get our knockoff kick. I feel bad for those that don't though.
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Comment by Liege Evilmus
May 30, 2008
I like this news.
I don't care if KOs are sold, I just hate seeing them sold with the same name and price as something vintage or reissue.
I don't care if KOs are sold, I just hate seeing them sold with the same name and price as something vintage or reissue.
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Comment by Blackstreak
May 30, 2008
A great part of me is 
in this, but part of me is 
. I picked up ghost versions of WST Thundercracker, Skywarp...well all of them save Starscream and Thrust and I love 'em. Well, Thundercracker's nosecone doesn't stay up in robot mode but their great! There are some KOs I will miss and there some that I would love to see DIE DIE DIE!! The really bad KOs to be specific. And your right the KOs who try pass themselves off as reissues are bad news.
in this, but part of me is . I picked up ghost versions of WST Thundercracker, Skywarp...well all of them save Starscream and Thrust and I love 'em. Well, Thundercracker's nosecone doesn't stay up in robot mode but their great! There are some KOs I will miss and there some that I would love to see DIE DIE DIE!! The really bad KOs to be specific. And your right the KOs who try pass themselves off as reissues are bad news.
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Lovely!
I want one!
I wouldn't know where else to look but ebay.
Comment by ponycorn
May 30, 2008
Scaleface wrote:Besides, I love the knockoffs where they make changes to the original items. Like the red and gold Mirage, or the recently released gold chrome Smallest Starscream. He's lovely and Hasbro never made one, see attached.
Lovely!
I want one! I wouldn't know where else to look but ebay.
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Comment by Scaleface
May 30, 2008
Okay, here's a guide, if the toy looks like this, it's probably a knockoff.
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Comment by Sunstar
May 30, 2008
I rather like knock offs, like the mini seekers or those WST Seekers.
This bites. I will have to look elsewhere to find those cool things that hasbro never does.
This bites. I will have to look elsewhere to find those cool things that hasbro never does.
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Comment by Megatron Wolf
May 30, 2008
Screw you hasbro. Half the KOs out there are never going to reissued. There goes trying to get a mirage or sixshot now. I understand the figures that are still in production but removing the ones that either had their mold "lost" or just cant be reissued is retarded.
I have an idea for the sellers. List them as gobots.
I have an idea for the sellers. List them as gobots.
