First image of Combiner Wars Sunstreaker and Mirage

And I just realized, that if those are indeed general retail, we now have the full CW lineup for the year: all 11 Legends, all 16 Deluxes and all 6 Voyagers. We had 4 Deluxe slots open and 1 Voyager one, and those could be it.

Is it just me, or is this a record? Do we normally know the entire lineup by March?

griftimus prime wrote:who needs computron and abominus when you have optimus maximus and a bunch of repaints

Better the devil we know we will be getting (OpMax) then something we have no idea is even on their drawing boards (Abominus).

griftimus prime wrote:who needs computron and abominus when you have optimus maximus and a bunch of repaints

Bruticus: I'M READY TO GO, GUYS! TAG ME IN!

I still find it odd that they are essentially releasing two primes in the line. Though it looks like these won't be exclusives if they are on the promotional materials.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And I just realized, that if those are indeed general retail, we now have the full CW lineup for the year: all 11 Legends, all 16 Deluxes and all 6 Voyagers. We had 4 Deluxe slots open and 1 Voyager one, and those could be it.

Is it just me, or is this a record? Do we normally know the entire lineup by March?

I thought we had realized that back with the last batch of computer listings. I have just taken it all as fact from then. While we know the line up, we still dont have official pics which will wait for SDCC or Botcon. We still have Leader Starscream to reveal as well as the 4 autobots, galvatronus (the torso), Optimus Maximus and all those G1 reissues, this year's Hasbro MPs and G2 Devastator. It sounds like the same amount of stuff that they revealed at those shows last year. And then we'll have whats coming out next year (computron and hopefully Bruticus). I think its about the same in terms of official reveals.

True, but I like my grains of salt, keeping changes, possible errors and even red herrings in mind

Well, you're out of luck for next year then because we've seen or heard of everything there is.
Bruticus will just be a mix up of this years figures with slight tweaks and Computron will be the same too. I'll have to amend what I said previously that if we buy everything through Wave 3 we'll have the entire two years worth already. Make that wave 4 instead. Put big guns on the back of Hot Spot and you have Onslaught, etc, etc... same old lazy Hasbro antics.
I don't know why the pic of Sunstreaker and half of Mirage is even a big deal. It shows us exactly squat.

Sabrblade wrote:

Samsonator wrote:Still a better Ironhide than Universe.

I might be inclined to disagree with that, partially. While I wholeheartedly agree with the shortcomings of the Universe Ironhide figure, it still very much resembled Ironhide. Whereas this figure, while likely being a much better figure than Universe in almost every regard, is but a non-Ironhide body with Ironhide's head slapped onto it.

It's definitely gonna be a better toy that Universe Ironhide, but aside from the head, it's just not as Ironhide-y as Universe Ironhide.

If he didn't have so many gaps in his panneling, I'd love him. But he looks like a broken plate to me. As it is, I liked the Arms Micron Ironhide, except for size. So maybe this version of Ironhide can draw on the Arms Micron/Prime Ironhide asthetic while giving him the bulk needed to be Ironhide, and not some really tiny truck

CrankyOldTruck wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And I just realized, that if those are indeed general retail, we now have the full CW lineup for the year: all 11 Legends, all 16 Deluxes and all 6 Voyagers. We had 4 Deluxe slots open and 1 Voyager one, and those could be it.

Is it just me, or is this a record? Do we normally know the entire lineup by March?

I thought we had realized that back with the last batch of computer listings. I have just taken it all as fact from then. While we know the line up, we still dont have official pics which will wait for SDCC or Botcon. We still have Leader Starscream to reveal as well as the 4 autobots, galvatronus (the torso), Optimus Maximus and all those G1 reissues, this year's Hasbro MPs and G2 Devastator. It sounds like the same amount of stuff that they revealed at those shows last year. And then we'll have whats coming out next year (computron and hopefully Bruticus). I think its about the same in terms of official reveals.

True, but I like my grains of salt, keeping changes, possible errors and even red herrings in mind

Well, you're out of luck for next year then because we've seen or heard of everything there is.
Bruticus will just be a mix up of this years figures with slight tweaks and Computron will be the same too. I'll have to amend what I said previously that if we buy everything through Wave 3 we'll have the entire two years worth already. Make that wave 4 instead. Put big guns on the back of Hot Spot and you have Onslaught, etc, etc... same old lazy Hasbro antics.
I don't know why the pic of Sunstreaker and half of Mirage is even a big deal. It shows us exactly squat.

We've seen all there is for this year, nothing beyond yet. That is to say, that image is the final nail in the coffin for other possible teams for this year, hence all the excitement. All we need is a mold ID for Prowl and we're all set.
That does not mean we'll get nothing new in the (possible) 2nd year. We still have pretools unaccounted like Firefly's (Slingshot doesn't count), Blades' (I'm only counting those with body changes as well), Rook's, and Hot Spot's, plus a new year means new molds (budgets are planned per year, not per line).
The rumored Computron and Bruticus, in addition to Slingshot, Wildrider and other rumored figures may still happen, just not this year.

Wait where did it say we're getting a Bruticus in this line and that Onslaught's a Remould of Hotspot?

Optimus Maximus looks cool and I don't care if the limbs are all repaints of Previous figures. Saves all the new moulds for the other Combiners later on.

munkimus prime wrote:Wait where did it say we're getting a Bruticus in this line and that Onslaught's a Remould of Hotspot?

I don't exactly recall where, but there was a bit of news a while back not specifically about Bruticus or Computron, it said Onslaught(Hotspot retool) and Scattorshot(Silverbolt retool). But where theres two new CW torso's theres likely team mates to follow