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Date: Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:00 AM
Subject: From Hasbro's Transformers brand
Hello,
A question was recently posed to Hasbro’s UK office asking if the Transformers Prime television series and the Transformers War for Cybertron video game were in a connected continuity. Unfortunately the wrong answer was delivered and that answer has made its way to the fan community. The TRANSFORMERS brand team would like to confirm that Transformers War for Cybertron video game, Transformers Exodus novel, and the Transformers Prime television show are in the same aligned continuity. Hasbro is creating a single continuity to tell the bulk of our TRANSFORMERS stories going forward.
Please look for further details about the continuity plan and new projects over the next year.
Sincerely,
Joe Moscone
on behalf of Hasbro, Inc.
Hasbro clarifies continuity of Transformers Prime, WFC, Exodus
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Re: Hasbro clarifies continuity of Transformers Prime, WFC, Exodus
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Comment by Supreme Convoy
Dec 9, 2010
Did Hasbro announce that they were trying to create a single continuity from now on?
Pretty ambitious but it should be exciting.
Pretty ambitious but it should be exciting.
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Comment by gantzrunner
Dec 9, 2010
Great. Now we have yet another broken continuity to go with our IDW universe (with the various character style and design variety as well). Don't get me wrong, WFC is amazing, and I think Prime has potential...but come on they already had continuity issues between WFC and the first few episodes of Prime..and I have a feeling it's gonna get worse when WFC2 comes out. And honestly, Prime can't possibly match the graphical standards of the games...so it seems even more out of place. 
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Comment by Pyrostrata
Dec 9, 2010
After episode 2 of Prime, it was abundantly clear that this press release is nonsense. It also shows that NO ONE at Hasbro has either played (or watched it played) War For Cybertron or watched ANY of Prime at all!
For the record, Prime HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WAR FOR CYBERTRON....or any other existing continuity....This might change if they suddenly decide to take the series proper in a TOTALLY different direction than the pilot, which would be a tragic turn of events.
For the record, Prime HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WAR FOR CYBERTRON....or any other existing continuity....This might change if they suddenly decide to take the series proper in a TOTALLY different direction than the pilot, which would be a tragic turn of events.
Re: Hasbro clarifies continuity of Transformers Prime, WFC, Exodus
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Comment by zenosaurus_x
Dec 9, 2010
NOOOO!!! I REJECT IT!
Even if it is right...uh, the ignorance in bliss or something...
Even if it is right...uh, the ignorance in bliss or something...
Re: Hasbro clarifies continuity of Transformers Prime, WFC, Exodus
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Comment by The Dude
Dec 9, 2010
This.
Is.
Idiocy.
Not only that, but it seems to go against everything the designers of the game intended. WFC=G1. Pass it on.
Is.
Idiocy.
Not only that, but it seems to go against everything the designers of the game intended. WFC=G1. Pass it on.
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Comment by Mkall
Dec 10, 2010
Somehow I expected this. It doesn't really affect me either way to be honest.
Re: Hasbro clarifies continuity of Transformers Prime, WFC, Exodus
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Comment by Anonymous
Dec 10, 2010
Idiocy indeed... I'll go one step further...
This.
Is.
Redundancy.
Talk about your infinite loop of main cast. I know Rodimus Prime failed initially, but I think we're all ready to move on. Iterations of Optimus, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, et al are immensely "
" thematically. Will we ever see Generation 3?
On Topic: Perhaps the continuity errors are due to the same story being told over and over again. Maybe they should have never brought Optimus or Megatron back in the first place.
This.
Is.
Redundancy.
Talk about your infinite loop of main cast. I know Rodimus Prime failed initially, but I think we're all ready to move on. Iterations of Optimus, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, et al are immensely "
" thematically. Will we ever see Generation 3?On Topic: Perhaps the continuity errors are due to the same story being told over and over again. Maybe they should have never brought Optimus or Megatron back in the first place.
Re: Hasbro clarifies continuity of Transformers Prime, WFC, Exodus
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Comment by Agamemnon
Dec 10, 2010
Not sure is any of you have read Exodus yet, but I have to call bullsh..err...horsehockey! (To quote Colonel Potter. You know Colonel Potter? From M*A*S*H? 
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I don't know if it needs it, but I will try to spoiler protect what follows:
There are many inconsistencies, and downright changes to the story, between Exodus and WFC. In reading Exodus, I could see that perhaps it could be in the G1 continuity, but there was a point about two thirds of the way through when it was painfully obvious this was probably the movie-verse instead. It outright contridicted G1 in several aspects.
As far as Exodus and WFC, towards the end of Exodus, it tells the same story about Omega Supreme as WFC, but in a completely different manner. Omega was brought down by Starscream and the seakers and crashed in the book, not in any way like how it happened in WFC with Megatron taking out Omega. The manner in which Zeta Prime (Sentinel Prime) is taken down/out by Megatron is completely different too. As is how Optimus gets the matrix and becomes Prime.
The Book's a decent read, but it's just too different from WFC which is too different from Prime which is too different from the movie-verse which is too different from G1 which is too different from the Unicron Trilogy which is too different from all of the comic universes... I could go on, but I think I've gone on too long already.
The point is that Hasbro already has so many universes. Let them be! Don't fight it. In fact, one of the great things about Transformers is that we each can tell whatever stories we want with whatever characters we want. How much fan fiction is there out there? Some of it really good, much of it horsehockey. But all of it the author's own. The toys spawn creativity and imagination. Let it happen! Don't try to reign it in or put boundaries on it. All that will end up happening is people will rant, get upset about every little detail and inconsistency in every piece of fiction produced. As a TF fan I can say: WFC is FUN TO PLAY!! Exodus was fun to read. The Bay movies are fun to watch. G1 is fun to experience, though it feels different now than when I was ten. Beast Wars was awesome! I did not care for the dubbing on the Unicron Trilogy, but there were some excellent toys and gimmicks in the lines. I love all of the toys! Why must any of it be shoehorned into one universe? Let it be and let the universes grow and flourish within each of our imaginations.
Man, I didn't mean to rant like that. I guess work has been just that stressful.
)I don't know if it needs it, but I will try to spoiler protect what follows:
There are many inconsistencies, and downright changes to the story, between Exodus and WFC. In reading Exodus, I could see that perhaps it could be in the G1 continuity, but there was a point about two thirds of the way through when it was painfully obvious this was probably the movie-verse instead. It outright contridicted G1 in several aspects.
As far as Exodus and WFC, towards the end of Exodus, it tells the same story about Omega Supreme as WFC, but in a completely different manner. Omega was brought down by Starscream and the seakers and crashed in the book, not in any way like how it happened in WFC with Megatron taking out Omega. The manner in which Zeta Prime (Sentinel Prime) is taken down/out by Megatron is completely different too. As is how Optimus gets the matrix and becomes Prime.
The Book's a decent read, but it's just too different from WFC which is too different from Prime which is too different from the movie-verse which is too different from G1 which is too different from the Unicron Trilogy which is too different from all of the comic universes... I could go on, but I think I've gone on too long already.
The point is that Hasbro already has so many universes. Let them be! Don't fight it. In fact, one of the great things about Transformers is that we each can tell whatever stories we want with whatever characters we want. How much fan fiction is there out there? Some of it really good, much of it horsehockey. But all of it the author's own. The toys spawn creativity and imagination. Let it happen! Don't try to reign it in or put boundaries on it. All that will end up happening is people will rant, get upset about every little detail and inconsistency in every piece of fiction produced. As a TF fan I can say: WFC is FUN TO PLAY!! Exodus was fun to read. The Bay movies are fun to watch. G1 is fun to experience, though it feels different now than when I was ten. Beast Wars was awesome! I did not care for the dubbing on the Unicron Trilogy, but there were some excellent toys and gimmicks in the lines. I love all of the toys! Why must any of it be shoehorned into one universe? Let it be and let the universes grow and flourish within each of our imaginations.
Man, I didn't mean to rant like that. I guess work has been just that stressful.
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That's what Beast Wars was
I always hated this idea when it was first hinted upon, it doesn't make any sense first of all, secondly, I haven't read the novel, but they don't mention any key plot elements that would connect the two (like why no one else seems to know what dark energon is), and the character designs are FAR different. They really needed more communication between their game development teams, their writing teams, and their animated series teams.
Comment by Fires_Of_Inferno
Dec 10, 2010
Skyfire-5 wrote:Will we ever see Generation 3?
That's what Beast Wars was
I always hated this idea when it was first hinted upon, it doesn't make any sense first of all, secondly, I haven't read the novel, but they don't mention any key plot elements that would connect the two (like why no one else seems to know what dark energon is), and the character designs are FAR different. They really needed more communication between their game development teams, their writing teams, and their animated series teams.
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Comment by Pretender Skywarp
Dec 10, 2010
But nobody seems suprised that Hasbro UK have given out the wrong answer ;-p
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Comment by Megatron Wolf
Dec 10, 2010
Ha yeah you just keep telling yourself that hasbro, WFC>Prime and are not in the same continuity, how does Soundwave go from badass to a bitch drone and all the bots go from looking awesome to looking worse than bayformers? And besides hasbro can resist changing the sereies, you know if they do manage to have a singe continuity they'll "reboot it" 3 years later. Just give us transtech already.
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Comment by Starscream GaGa
Dec 10, 2010
That doesn't make any sense. There are FAR, FAR too many plot holes for this to be legit.
Fact is, WFC was made as a prequel to G1 and it works as a prequel far better then anything we've previously had. It works better as a prequel to G1 then it does Prime, that's for sure! The only major contradiction that is in WFC is the existance of Silverbolt and Airraid, but the story is open enough for there to be a reason for them needing to be re-created. Not to mention the fact that G1 itself wasn't really good at the whole "they were made during the series, they cannot be on Cybertron" thing (Looking at YOU, Constructicons!).
Exodus is just on its own, it isn't the same story as WFC and unlike WFC it doesn't fit into any continuity. It's a single continuity.
Fact is, WFC was made as a prequel to G1 and it works as a prequel far better then anything we've previously had. It works better as a prequel to G1 then it does Prime, that's for sure! The only major contradiction that is in WFC is the existance of Silverbolt and Airraid, but the story is open enough for there to be a reason for them needing to be re-created. Not to mention the fact that G1 itself wasn't really good at the whole "they were made during the series, they cannot be on Cybertron" thing (Looking at YOU, Constructicons!).
Exodus is just on its own, it isn't the same story as WFC and unlike WFC it doesn't fit into any continuity. It's a single continuity.
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Comment by Rodimus2006
Dec 10, 2010
I told you all WFC is the begining of time and it is connected to Prime which is the future. Prime isnt related to the movies or have any connection to them.
WFC, WFC 2, Exodus, Prime. I been gettin things right alot any more and I was right about the Transformers Time line.
The movie-verse is it own unique thing it just borrows from other aspects of past Transformers and usses plot devices in its films however the Allspark was never seen in any of the series expcept for Animated.
So there Prime and WFC are connected howver Prime & the movies are not connected.
2 seperate universes 2 diffrent versions only thing in common they share the same name Transformers.
Think video games like Bioware they make Dragon Age & Mass Effect they are done under Bioware but they are done buy seperate teams only common thing they have they are owned by EA/Bioware.
Think in terms of Star Wars as WFC is the Beginning then Exodus is the middle and Prime is the Present.
WFC, WFC 2, Exodus, Prime. I been gettin things right alot any more and I was right about the Transformers Time line.
The movie-verse is it own unique thing it just borrows from other aspects of past Transformers and usses plot devices in its films however the Allspark was never seen in any of the series expcept for Animated.
So there Prime and WFC are connected howver Prime & the movies are not connected.
2 seperate universes 2 diffrent versions only thing in common they share the same name Transformers.
Think video games like Bioware they make Dragon Age & Mass Effect they are done under Bioware but they are done buy seperate teams only common thing they have they are owned by EA/Bioware.
Think in terms of Star Wars as WFC is the Beginning then Exodus is the middle and Prime is the Present.
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Comment by Wolfman Jake
Dec 10, 2010
It's an interesting twist that the creators of a certain property are the ones fascinated by trying to unify all of its iterations into one coherent story as opposed to the fans. Look at the storied "Legend of Zelda" series, for instance. So many fans try so hard to place each game in the series into a timeline, even going so far as to create alternate timelines that split and recombine and whatever just to avoid having to admit that the games just flat out contradict one another time and again. Even the creators admit that the games don't all fit together and are just retellings of the same stories and themes.
That's what I've always thought of the Transformers franchise. Every few years, it's a brand new take on the same basic premise: Autobots vs. Decepticons, war leads to fleeing Cybertron, the battle comes to Earth, and the rivalry of Optimus Prime and Megatron lives on. I think that makes the brand as a whole stronger in the sense that it can keep re-inventing itself around the same basic idea and it still (usually) works. When you start trying to make it all fit together, it all comes apart, and all the individual tellings of the story are diminished. We don't need a streamlined singular timeline, or a fully mapped out "multiverse," or poorly thought out ideas like each member of the original Thirteen being the same entity in every universe, to enjoy Transformers.
I wonder if this effort by Hasbro to make everything Transformers fit into a unified timeline is mostly motivated by a perceived need to rein the Transformers brand back into a fully unified, singular line of toys for the sake of the retailers? I don't know why that would be such an issue now, as both collectors and kids seem not to have trouble at all buying the toys they like and ignoring the rest.
That's what I've always thought of the Transformers franchise. Every few years, it's a brand new take on the same basic premise: Autobots vs. Decepticons, war leads to fleeing Cybertron, the battle comes to Earth, and the rivalry of Optimus Prime and Megatron lives on. I think that makes the brand as a whole stronger in the sense that it can keep re-inventing itself around the same basic idea and it still (usually) works. When you start trying to make it all fit together, it all comes apart, and all the individual tellings of the story are diminished. We don't need a streamlined singular timeline, or a fully mapped out "multiverse," or poorly thought out ideas like each member of the original Thirteen being the same entity in every universe, to enjoy Transformers.
I wonder if this effort by Hasbro to make everything Transformers fit into a unified timeline is mostly motivated by a perceived need to rein the Transformers brand back into a fully unified, singular line of toys for the sake of the retailers? I don't know why that would be such an issue now, as both collectors and kids seem not to have trouble at all buying the toys they like and ignoring the rest.
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Comment by warwik311
Dec 10, 2010
What if we're looking at this all wrong? While we're looking at the stories of Video Games, Cartoons, and books, Hasbro is looking at toys. We're trying to make all of the stories fit into one line and Hasbro is trying to make all of the toys fit in one line, Generations.
Just a thought
Just a thought
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Comment by griftimus prime
Dec 10, 2010
bs
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You very clearly have not read Exodus. Exodus starts off BEFORE WFC, then completely retells WFC's story with only very superficial similarities(Dark Energon, Starscream on a sattelite, Omega Supreme does... Something.). Neither stories, in anyway, fit together in the same timeline nor can they plausibly fit into Prime's continuity... In just FIVE episodes it's contradicted most of the events in both the game and book's continuity.
Comment by Starscream GaGa
Dec 10, 2010
Rodimus2006 wrote:Think in terms of Star Wars as WFC is the Beginning then Exodus is the middle and Prime is the Present.
You very clearly have not read Exodus. Exodus starts off BEFORE WFC, then completely retells WFC's story with only very superficial similarities(Dark Energon, Starscream on a sattelite, Omega Supreme does... Something.). Neither stories, in anyway, fit together in the same timeline nor can they plausibly fit into Prime's continuity... In just FIVE episodes it's contradicted most of the events in both the game and book's continuity.
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Comment by BattleRoller23
Dec 10, 2010
Not to me they are not.
Dis Continuity!
Dis Continuity!
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Comment by BATTLEMASTER IIC
Dec 10, 2010
Yeah... I don't think so Hasbro!
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Comment by Lord Onixprime
Dec 10, 2010
What ever. I mean, if they were trying to make one single continuity than wouldn't they have made sure they all tied together? The book contradicts the game, the cartoon contradicts the game, and so we have one big contradictory blob of nonsense that Hasbro is trying to say is a continuity. It has more loose ends and incongruities than G1 did. Way to start off a new continuity on a high note. Maybe try next time?
