In-Hand Images and US Sighting - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Wave 4 Deluxes
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Re: In-Hand Images and US Sighting - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Wave 4 Deluxes
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Comment by RhA
Aug 10, 2015
Mirage and Sunstreaker look great. Prowl and Ironhide... They do nothing for me.
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Comment by steve2275
Aug 10, 2015
all look good to me
but I'm not a fan of mirages face
but I'm not a fan of mirages face
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Comment by jogunwarrior
Aug 10, 2015
I went ahead and pre-ordered Mirage and Prowl last night on BBTS. It'd be nice to find them at retail sooner than later, but I am not counting on it. Mirage was a must buy for me because I missed out on the Classics version.
Ironhide and Sunstreaker are an easy pass for me this time around, but that just allows me to save a little more for the Combaticon wave when it comes around.
Ironhide and Sunstreaker are an easy pass for me this time around, but that just allows me to save a little more for the Combaticon wave when it comes around.
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Comment by ScottyP
Aug 10, 2015
So barring some things coming out we don't know about, if these are out already, then damn. Probably nothing except the Voyager Prime repaint and Leader Starscream until the Bruticus wave right around Christmas as far as Generations goes. No complaints about that here though.
This is the first time I'm really noticing the silver combiner hands/feet that come with these guys. That's slick. I like it.
This is the first time I'm really noticing the silver combiner hands/feet that come with these guys. That's slick. I like it.
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Comment by OptimalOptimus2
Aug 10, 2015
Everybody else looks fine, but that Ironhide has got to go! 
Also, is anyone else getting a Transformers: Energon Optimus Prime vibe from Optimus Maximus?

Also, is anyone else getting a Transformers: Energon Optimus Prime vibe from Optimus Maximus?
Re: In-Hand Images and US Sighting - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Wave 4 Deluxes
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I really wish they'd used the First Aid re-tooling for the vehicle. Here's a random digibash from a Google search that makes me sad:
Comment by ScottyP
Aug 10, 2015
I still think he's better than the Universe 2.0 one in robot mode.OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Everybody else looks fine, but that Ironhide has got to go!
I really wish they'd used the First Aid re-tooling for the vehicle. Here's a random digibash from a Google search that makes me sad:

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Comment by SW's SilverHammer
Aug 10, 2015
I know it's not the best prowl, but I really like the high contrast black and white on that mold. Personally, I like prowl and sunstreaker the best. Mirage is okay, but he feels a little bland, same with ironhide; I wish there was more tooling on them to make them more distinct.
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Comment by ScottyP
Aug 10, 2015
Agree on Mirage here too. A modicum of retooling to allow the F1 car front to be his chest, with the arms being appropriate to face that way as well, would take it over the top.SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know it's not the best prowl, but I really like the high contrast black and white on that mold. Personally, I like prowl and sunstreaker the best. Mirage is okay, but he feels a little bland, same with ironhide; I wish there was more tooling on them to make them more distinct.
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Yeah I think given those additions, combiner wars mirage would be a pretty good generations mirage nearly a decade after the classic's figure. Maybe not a better figure, but distinctly it's own mirage. As for ironhide it's a better figure than the universe 2.0 figure mostly because of the engineering differences, but I think there needed to be something more distinct for him besides the head to make him more than a red offroad.
Comment by SW's SilverHammer
Aug 10, 2015
ScottyP wrote:Agree on Mirage here too. A modicum of retooling to allow the F1 car front to be his chest, with the arms being appropriate to face that way as well, would take it over the top.SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know it's not the best prowl, but I really like the high contrast black and white on that mold. Personally, I like prowl and sunstreaker the best. Mirage is okay, but he feels a little bland, same with ironhide; I wish there was more tooling on them to make them more distinct.
Yeah I think given those additions, combiner wars mirage would be a pretty good generations mirage nearly a decade after the classic's figure. Maybe not a better figure, but distinctly it's own mirage. As for ironhide it's a better figure than the universe 2.0 figure mostly because of the engineering differences, but I think there needed to be something more distinct for him besides the head to make him more than a red offroad.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Aug 10, 2015
They look good. I still have no Protectobots and these guys are out! jeez! 

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Comment by Dr. Caelus
Aug 10, 2015
Meanwhile, the Target near me still just has two Dragstrips and a Skydive as their Combiner Wars stock, even after their massive summer restock.
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Comment by Joker'sRequiem
Aug 10, 2015
I was at one of my local Targets (Okemos, MI) around 11 AM and they also have the Wave 4 Deluxes out. Had at least 2 of each.
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Comment by Bounti76
Aug 10, 2015
Meanwhile, my local Target and Walmart STILL haven't stocked the Protectobots....wondering if I'll ever see them at retail.
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Comment by Megatron Wolf
Aug 10, 2015
dear god hasbro let the damn protectobots hits shelves first, this just proves they have absolutely no clue whats going on in the actual stores.
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Comment by Bronzewolf
Aug 10, 2015
Agh! We haven't even gotten the protectobots here in CO yet. Dang it. 

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You're assuming, of course, that there is anything Hasbro can do about what's going on in actual stores. The retailers hold almost all of the power. Hasbro can't ship to them what they won't buy. They also can't dictate to the retailers how to allocate available stock to their stores either.
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Aug 10, 2015
Megatron Wolf wrote:dear god hasbro let the damn protectobots hits shelves first, this just proves they have absolutely no clue whats going on in the actual stores.
You're assuming, of course, that there is anything Hasbro can do about what's going on in actual stores. The retailers hold almost all of the power. Hasbro can't ship to them what they won't buy. They also can't dictate to the retailers how to allocate available stock to their stores either.
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Comment by Hellscream9999
Aug 10, 2015
I have to say, out of all the limbs, Off-road is still the stand-out figure, if only (as I do really love him) for the unique splashes of color he brings to the table as an arm.
Really that teal is to die for (that green on his face is also very nice), and greatly needed to stand out against all the muted/dark colors and grays of mm/menasor/galvatronus.
Really that teal is to die for (that green on his face is also very nice), and greatly needed to stand out against all the muted/dark colors and grays of mm/menasor/galvatronus.
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Just speaking for my local area, which, granted is big but not Big or BIG or anything like that, I can say the Protectobots have been around for a couple months quite readily. Bring on a new wave!
Comment by ScottyP
Aug 10, 2015
Exactly this.Wolfman Jake wrote:Megatron Wolf wrote:dear god hasbro let the damn protectobots hits shelves first, this just proves they have absolutely no clue whats going on in the actual stores.
You're assuming, of course, that there is anything Hasbro can do about what's going on in actual stores. The retailers hold almost all of the power. Hasbro can't ship to them what they won't buy. They also can't dictate to the retailers how to allocate available stock to their stores either.
Just speaking for my local area, which, granted is big but not Big or BIG or anything like that, I can say the Protectobots have been around for a couple months quite readily. Bring on a new wave!
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Comment by Hellscream9999
Aug 10, 2015
I seriously wish has/tak had gone back and re-engineered op/mm after the others were done - I do beleive he was the first mold done, or that a seperate (and far more clever) team worked on silverbolt/hotspot - and applied some of the things that they learned from making silverbolt and hotspot to him.
Specifically the thighs and the shoulders; they could have decreased his density, locked everything together better, made the thighs 'better' (please note that defensor uses the same thighs/pelvis as hotspot, but by moving the connector ports outwards, a better look and design is achieved - this would have facilitated a better use of the mm legs, maybe even a design similar to hotspot).
I dunno, Menasor just 'looks' really cool - dat head sculpt - and the ball jointed neck was a god-send, but everything else just sucks, from an engineering standpoint; it doesn't help that the fan-modes aren't that great to me, and still have pretty poor stability/poseability; I really want to like him, I wanted to since he was revealed, but I will never love that mold - until, that is, it gets overhauled.
p.s. anyone wonder if the running change on b.c.op will affect hs wavemate
Specifically the thighs and the shoulders; they could have decreased his density, locked everything together better, made the thighs 'better' (please note that defensor uses the same thighs/pelvis as hotspot, but by moving the connector ports outwards, a better look and design is achieved - this would have facilitated a better use of the mm legs, maybe even a design similar to hotspot).
I dunno, Menasor just 'looks' really cool - dat head sculpt - and the ball jointed neck was a god-send, but everything else just sucks, from an engineering standpoint; it doesn't help that the fan-modes aren't that great to me, and still have pretty poor stability/poseability; I really want to like him, I wanted to since he was revealed, but I will never love that mold - until, that is, it gets overhauled.
p.s. anyone wonder if the running change on b.c.op will affect hs wavemate

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Comment by joeprime276
Aug 10, 2015
Wow, all of the new wave 4 figures look exceptional and I've been very skeptical of them until now.
On a side note, has Hasbro released a Gears figure that is G1 accurate?
On a side note, has Hasbro released a Gears figure that is G1 accurate?