New Teaser - Takara Tomy Masterpiece Optimus Primal

The only thing that has me concerned about this silhouette are the feet, which look really big and oddly-shaped in both modes, whereas the feet of the show's animation model looked pretty accurate to the feet of the original toy in both modes.

ZeroWolf wrote:I wonder if that new reveal is a mp megatron to go along with this.

oooooh, I hope, or, anything else, I'm not really picky

i thought they were making all of these mps scale to eachother. so this guy will be like half bumblebees size then?

Va'al wrote:

What's between his robot mode legs? It can't be unseen!!!!!!!!!!

I won't take it away from people who like Beast Wars figures, but I never cared much for them. Even the 'Masterpiece' version of this one doesn't look like great shakes to me.

Seibertron wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:I won't take it away from people who like Beast Wars figures, but I never cared much for them. Even the 'Masterpiece' version of this one doesn't look like great shakes to me.

I agree. I'd much rather have a realistic looking gorilla with elements of the character model in the cartoon that transforms into a more cartoon accurate robot mode. Basically like the licensed G1 vehicles but with animal modes instead.

Do that after we finally get one that looks like the Boss Monkey we know and love from the show.

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:I won't take it away from people who like Beast Wars figures, but I never cared much for them. Even the 'Masterpiece' version of this one doesn't look like great shakes to me.

I agree. I'd much rather have a realistic looking gorilla with elements of the character model in the cartoon that transforms into a more cartoon accurate robot mode. Basically like the licensed G1 vehicles but with animal modes instead.

Do that after we finally get one that looks like the Boss Monkey we know and love from the show.

Do you really want one that looks like that? His beast mode looks horrible.

It looks like a cartoon ape, and I grew up watching a cartoon ape on TV, so I want a toy of the cartoon ape I know and love.

Something that looks like this, however, is not Optimus Primal, is hideously ugly by comparison to the much friendlier-looking, well-groomed CGI model, and would be a disservice to the character's iconic look.

It's like how Generations Arcee was rightfully her original look before all else, and now that we have her perfect version done and out of the way, we can get new, updated takes on her made afterward.

But the Beast Wars characters were not realistic animals, they were cartoon animals. Give us the cartoon animal toys first and then give us realistic animal updates later. Besides, this silhouette shows the beat mode hunched over in a realistic ape position anyway.

But then again, I'm the guy who also wants new Dinoforce toys with their Pretender shells as cute-looking plush toys with zipper pockets in their backs to put the figures inside.

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Something that looks like this, however, is not Optimus Primal, is hideously ugly by comparison to the much friendlier-looking, well-groomed CGI model, and would be a disservice to the character's iconic look.

To each their own. I'd rather have realistic looking animals that had nods to their cartoon models. That would look way more awesome than an out-of-date cgi model version of the character. Realistic animal modes would be far more timeless as well since they don't go out of date like a 1980s Lancia Stratos or Beetle does.

At the end of the day, it just boils down to "I just want what I saw on TV." And I feel I still haven't quite gotten that yet (BW 10th TRU Primal and Telemocha Convoy have been very close, though).

To me, it's less a matter between what looks "good" vs. what looks "bad", and more between what looks "right" and what looks "wrong".

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Something that looks like this, however, is not Optimus Primal, is hideously ugly by comparison to the much friendlier-looking, well-groomed CGI model, and would be a disservice to the character's iconic look.

To each their own. I'd rather have realistic looking animals that had nods to their cartoon models. That would look way more awesome than an out-of-date cgi model version of the character. Realistic animal modes would be far more timeless as well since they don't go out of date like a 1980s Lancia Stratos or Beetle does.

At the end of the day, it just boils down to "I just want what I saw on TV." And I feel I still haven't quite gotten that yet (BW 10th TRU Primal and Telemocha Convoy have been very close, though).

To me, it's less a matter between what looks "good" vs. what looks "bad", and more between what looks "right" and what looks "wrong".

Exactly, the Mp line is about making figures that look like the show characters, as BW figures could be seen as having two characters (beast and bot modes) that is what needs to be done

Bingo! A car is a car is a car. If not held back by the animation (and budget) of the day the G1 cartoon would have animated the most realistic cars they possibly could so the MP line works perfectly. Beast Wars is different. In BW the beast mode needs to be just as expressive as the bot mode so we can believe it's capable of talking and non-animal emotion. Even if Mainframe had the budget they still wouldn't have made the beast modes realistic, it just doesn't work as characters and wouldn't work as figures. The original toy line tried for realism, now it's time for TV accuracy.

And nobody wants a realistic BW Dinobot, they'll be in for a big surprise with that one.

Emerje

shajaki wrote:I'm not overly concerned about about the realistic hunch he seems to have, since he did walk like that some times. I'm deffinitly a part of the crowd who wants him to look like the CG model though.

Speaking along those lines, I was a little let down by Generations Rattrap not having his lovable cartoony mouse face. Things like that should be preserved if it's for a line like MP. All of this talk about Primal has me vibrating... but more so for the mere idea of there being a MP Dinobot in the future

I'd rather Elephorca from Rhinox, it's already part way there, and would be awesome