New Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Images in Figure King Magazine
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Re: New Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor Images in Figure King Magazine
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Comment by Ironhidensh
Jun 22, 2016
I'm starting to get a very bad parts forming feeling on the Beast head / robot chest of this figure.
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I'm pretty sure it won't be a parts-former, TT's clever like that, but I understand you're anxiety, I too am hoping it turns out perfectly
Comment by Hellscream9999
Jun 22, 2016
Ironhidensh wrote:I'm starting to get a very bad parts forming feeling on the Beast head / robot chest of this figure.
I'm pretty sure it won't be a parts-former, TT's clever like that, but I understand you're anxiety, I too am hoping it turns out perfectly
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Comment by shajaki
Jun 22, 2016
Take solace in examples of their wizardry: Inferno, Ironhide, Hotrod, Prime, Wheeljack, Bee, ect. All of them have either remarkable engineering or faux pieces masking those for the sake of aesthetics.Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm pretty sure it won't be a parts-former, TT's clever like that, but I understand you're anxiety, I too am hoping it turns out perfectlyIronhidensh wrote:I'm starting to get a very bad parts forming feeling on the Beast head / robot chest of this figure.
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Comment by shajaki
Jun 25, 2016
Remember when we posted a tiny low res image of TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece Beast Wars Cheetor from Figure King Magazine? Well now we can show you a proper pic! He apparently has multiple cat faces leading people to wonder what "Inferno Ladder Magic" awaits us because he clearly has a different cat head in his robot mode. See what conclusions you can come to by checking out the pic below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!


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Thanks to Seibertronian Cyberpath for sharing these pics, and if you have news you'd like to submit you can reach us here!
new@seibertron.com
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Comment by RevTibe
Jun 25, 2016
Huh, guess the chest head is faux kibble - was wondering about that. When I saw the blurry pics I thought it might have just been a neutral beast-face option for robot mode. I suppose it fits the "show accuracy is king" ideology, and it would allow us to leave the angry/spooked faces on the cheetah head without making the robot mode look odd. Natural extension of MP Optimus having different truck grills for vehicle and robot modes, I guess.
(Personally, I'm more into the cast's appearances after the relevant characters got their Transmetal forms, but c'est la vie.)
(Personally, I'm more into the cast's appearances after the relevant characters got their Transmetal forms, but c'est la vie.)
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Comment by Zeedust
Jun 25, 2016
his beast mode has whiskers! Nice.
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Comment by Ironhidensh
Jun 25, 2016
If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.
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Two things we should keep in mind; firstly, this is being produced from a Japanese perspective, and the English-speaking fan favorites might not line up perfectly with what Takara's primary market wants.
Secondly, Beast Wars was released in Japan in this order; Beast Wars season 1, the two BW animes, then Beast BW seasons 2 and 3 (as "Beast Wars: Metals"). By that time interest in Beast Wars had started to wane, and a lot of the big stuff that cemented Dinobot as a fan favorite happened in season 2.
Comment by RevTibe
Jun 25, 2016
shajaki wrote:And that target audience from back in the day are adults now. And this is a line geared towards adult collectors.Sabrblade wrote:Cheetor's a yellow kid appeal character who was the target audience's gateway character. Even though Dinobot had a more meaningful role from an objective narrative standpoint, an argument could be made for Cheetor being a more subjectively popular character with the show's target audience of children back in the day.shajaki wrote:Sorry Sabre, I'm with Whitemest (welcome BTW!) on this. I understand fully that Primal would be the first. But the only one I'd have felt ok with being released next if it wasn't going to be Dinobot, is Megatron. He's a big enough deal that he should easily trump Cheetor.
Two things we should keep in mind; firstly, this is being produced from a Japanese perspective, and the English-speaking fan favorites might not line up perfectly with what Takara's primary market wants.
Secondly, Beast Wars was released in Japan in this order; Beast Wars season 1, the two BW animes, then Beast BW seasons 2 and 3 (as "Beast Wars: Metals"). By that time interest in Beast Wars had started to wane, and a lot of the big stuff that cemented Dinobot as a fan favorite happened in season 2.
Judging from factors such as the robot chest's ears not having earholes like the beast head's ears do, and the slightly more inflated nature of the chest-head, my best guess would be that the robot mode beast head covers the actual beast mode head. (That, and if Takara was embracing part swapping for BW masterpieces, we probably would have seen clip on bits to cover Primal's visible robo-kibble in beast mode.)Ironhidensh wrote:If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 25, 2016
I like the MP-1/MP-10 "two truck grills" analogy, as it makes me wonder if one of the beast mode cheetah heads can hide inside the core of the robot mode torso behind the fake cheetah head.
If anything, I'd like a TM Rattrap whose beast mode kibble backpack could rotate 180 degrees to have the wheels behind his robot mode rat head shoulders. And maybe just reissues of TM Primal, TM Cheetor, and TM Tarantulas with more show-accurate decos (like their Japanese toys) and new headsculpts with more show-accuracy and (in the cases of Primal and Cheetor) less "Ninja Turtle snarling".
*shrug* Most of the original Transmetal toys for the characters who became Transmetals in the show were already the stuff of near perfection anyway.RevTibe wrote:(Personally, I'm more into the cast's appearances after the relevant characters got their Transmetal forms, but c'est la vie.)

If anything, I'd like a TM Rattrap whose beast mode kibble backpack could rotate 180 degrees to have the wheels behind his robot mode rat head shoulders. And maybe just reissues of TM Primal, TM Cheetor, and TM Tarantulas with more show-accurate decos (like their Japanese toys) and new headsculpts with more show-accuracy and (in the cases of Primal and Cheetor) less "Ninja Turtle snarling".
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TM Rattrap's actually the one I've thought about the most (currently customizing one). One of the weaknesses of the mold is how a significant portion of the rat's butt is a hollow brick - open that up, add some basic compression to the arms/legs, and we can stuff Rattrap's robot bits more efficiently into the rat mode. This would clean up his messy undercarriage, but could also lead to a larger robot mode in relation to his rat mode, meaning the rat head pauldrons would be closer to the show's shrunken proportions.
That, and Rattrap needs half a dozen more accessories :P Have the wheels pop off as shields, his gun, explosive charges, spare gun or two from the Coming of the Fuzors showdown...
Comment by RevTibe
Jun 25, 2016
Hey, I can dream :P Although they're visually very accurate, Transformers engineering has really advanced in the past two decades - would be a shame to see the Transmetals cursed by their own show accuracy to never receive updates.Sabrblade wrote:*shrug* Most of the original Transmetal toys for the characters who became Transmetals in the show were already the stuff of near perfection anyway. ;)RevTibe wrote:(Personally, I'm more into the cast's appearances after the relevant characters got their Transmetal forms, but c'est la vie.)
If anything, I'd like a TM Rattrap whose beast mode kibble backpack could rotate 180 degrees to have the wheels behind his robot mode rat head shoulders. And maybe just reissues of TM Primal, TM Cheetor, and TM Tarantulas with more show-accurate decos (like their Japanese toys) and new headsculpts with more show-accuracy and (in the cases of Primal and Cheetor) less "Ninja Turtle snarling".
TM Rattrap's actually the one I've thought about the most (currently customizing one). One of the weaknesses of the mold is how a significant portion of the rat's butt is a hollow brick - open that up, add some basic compression to the arms/legs, and we can stuff Rattrap's robot bits more efficiently into the rat mode. This would clean up his messy undercarriage, but could also lead to a larger robot mode in relation to his rat mode, meaning the rat head pauldrons would be closer to the show's shrunken proportions.
That, and Rattrap needs half a dozen more accessories :P Have the wheels pop off as shields, his gun, explosive charges, spare gun or two from the Coming of the Fuzors showdown...
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Yeah, I am pretty sure there is no parts swapping and that the robot mode beast head is incorporated in the toy. because we saw all the accessories and a fake cheetah head wasnt one of them, so thus it must be integrated.
Speaking of fake beast heads for chests, I really feel that is the only way to do dinobot properly, what do you guys think? Man, i just want an MP Dinobot so bad.
Comment by william-james88
Jun 26, 2016
RevTibe wrote:Judging from factors such as the robot chest's ears not having earholes like the beast head's ears do, and the slightly more inflated nature of the chest-head, my best guess would be that the robot mode beast head covers the actual beast mode head. (That, and if Takara was embracing part swapping for BW masterpieces, we probably would have seen clip on bits to cover Primal's visible robo-kibble in beast mode.)Ironhidensh wrote:If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.
Yeah, I am pretty sure there is no parts swapping and that the robot mode beast head is incorporated in the toy. because we saw all the accessories and a fake cheetah head wasnt one of them, so thus it must be integrated.
Speaking of fake beast heads for chests, I really feel that is the only way to do dinobot properly, what do you guys think? Man, i just want an MP Dinobot so bad.
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I feel it'd be the best way to do a lot of them, Rattrap and Waspinator included. When the beast mode heads formed the chest, in the cartoon they tended to look a lot more flattened down than could possibly be replicated in plastic form. If the Beast Wars MP line continues, I'd personally expect to see a lot of faux beast mode chests.
Comment by Kurona
Jun 26, 2016
william-james88 wrote:RevTibe wrote:Judging from factors such as the robot chest's ears not having earholes like the beast head's ears do, and the slightly more inflated nature of the chest-head, my best guess would be that the robot mode beast head covers the actual beast mode head. (That, and if Takara was embracing part swapping for BW masterpieces, we probably would have seen clip on bits to cover Primal's visible robo-kibble in beast mode.)Ironhidensh wrote:If its a case like Primes two grills, I'll be okay, but if its part swapping on a MP, this will be an easy pass.
Yeah, I am pretty sure there is no parts swapping and that the robot mode beast head is incorporated in the toy. because we saw all the accessories and a fake cheetah head wasnt one of them, so thus it must be integrated.
Speaking of fake beast heads for chests, I really feel that is the only way to do dinobot properly, what do you guys think? Man, i just want an MP Dinobot so bad.
I feel it'd be the best way to do a lot of them, Rattrap and Waspinator included. When the beast mode heads formed the chest, in the cartoon they tended to look a lot more flattened down than could possibly be replicated in plastic form. If the Beast Wars MP line continues, I'd personally expect to see a lot of faux beast mode chests.
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Comment by Ironhidensh
Jun 26, 2016
A faux chest is fine with me, as long as it is integrated into the toy.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 26, 2016
I think it might be easier to name which characters would be able to use the actual beast head instead of a fake one robot mode.
Besides Primal, of course.
Besides Primal, of course.
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Well, I'm pretty sure they won't be able to do a fake with Megatron...
Comment by Sigma Magnus
Jun 26, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:I think it might be easier to name which characters would be able to use the actual beast head instead of a fake one robot mode.
Besides Primal, of course.
Well, I'm pretty sure they won't be able to do a fake with Megatron...
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Megatron, Terrorsaur, Scorponok, maybe Rhinox.
Dunno about Tarantulas.
So basically one definite yes, two maybes and two guys which are probably the last ones people want from an MP Beast Wars line.
Comment by Kurona
Jun 26, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:I think it might be easier to name which characters would be able to use the actual beast head instead of a fake one robot mode.
Besides Primal, of course.
Megatron, Terrorsaur, Scorponok, maybe Rhinox.
Dunno about Tarantulas.
So basically one definite yes, two maybes and two guys which are probably the last ones people want from an MP Beast Wars line.
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Comment by Starsaber468
Jun 26, 2016
Did anyone see the offical photos of super ginrai? Cause suprised theres not much talk about it
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 26, 2016
Why would we be talking about Super Ginrai in the Masterpiece Cheetor thread?Starsaber468 wrote:Did anyone see the offical photos of super ginrai? Cause suprised theres not much talk about it
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There is not much talk here because this is thread for Cheetor.
However, we have not seen those photos you speak of so if you have them, please send them to us by clicking on the link in my signature so we can news them.
Comment by william-james88
Jun 27, 2016
Starsaber468 wrote:Did anyone see the offical photos of super ginrai? Cause suprised theres not much talk about it
There is not much talk here because this is thread for Cheetor.
However, we have not seen those photos you speak of so if you have them, please send them to us by clicking on the link in my signature so we can news them.
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Comment by Powered Convoy
Jun 28, 2016
Can't compete with getting these scans before the guys in Asia do, but here are some higher resolution scans for those interested:
http://www.allspark.com/2016/06/ultra-h ... ers-scans/
http://www.allspark.com/2016/06/ultra-h ... ers-scans/