Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure and Q Transformers New Listings: Black Shadow, Rumble & Frenzy, and More

Is Japan finally getting Generations Sky Shadow? If so, why not in the Legends line?

Rumble and Frenzy is interesting. The price is probably with tax and too low for United Rumble and Frenzy (3,888JPY) and only a little more than two of what we call Legends class (¥3,456 taxed). Most likely it's a repaint of some Legends class figures, I doubt it's a new mold.

If it does turn out to be the United set expect some remolding to give a TAV sticker a flat surface.

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Optimus does look cool. Just wish he had a Hasbro release....

I like how its posed in such an awesome way that hides the hollow legs.

I mean, its cool and I probably will get it, but the hollowness is a little disapointing. I mean, I would have paid a little bit more to have a figure without gaps. Especially from Takara.

Optimizzy wrote:I like how its posed in such an awesome way that hides the hollow legs.

I mean, its cool and I probably will get it, but the hollowness is a little disapointing. I mean, I would have paid a little bit more to have a figure without gaps. Especially from Takara.

Well, I mean, isn't the trailer functional on this figure? As in you can load other figures into it; I think that that is a very acceptable reason to have hollow legs. And why is this such a major issue anyways, figures have had hollow bits for decades, sure this may be 'over the top' but this purely for functional reasons.

quote="Hellscream9999"]
Well, I mean, isn't the trailer functional on this figure? As in you can load other figures into it; I think that that is a very acceptable reason to have hollow legs. And why is this such a major issue anyways, figures have had hollow bits for decades, sure this may be 'over the top' but this purely for functional reasons.[/quote]

fenrir72 wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:I like how its posed in such an awesome way that hides the hollow legs.

I mean, its cool and I probably will get it, but the hollowness is a little disapointing. I mean, I would have paid a little bit more to have a figure without gaps. Especially from Takara.

The hollow shins is for the trailer function of the figure when it is in truck mode. That's kind of the selling point..........trailer that can carry TAV or TED class figures. Remove the hollowness, then no can carry anything.

Same can be said for Godginrai/PM OPtimus prime. Had hollow shins too.

lol. you guys.

It just floors me how much there is of TAKARA=Good, HASBRO=bad. The trailer is a selling point?? Really?

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm sure a 3rd Party will come up with an upgrade kit made out of panels to cover the gaps. Panels that can pop on and off easely, of course.

Also, I wonder. How come Takara didnt engeneered some panels that fold up to cover the gaps? Look easy enough to do so.

Anyway, I'm still glad I preordered mine!

Yes I agree Kanrabat, it seemed liked a simple thing to do. I mean, it's just panels. You can't see it straight on, but man...is it noticeable when you do see it.



I mean, really. I think it's fair to point out that this is a failing of the design. If there was some panels in the original design, I would not hesitate to buy this...however, as it is I really cant say this is a must buy. And guys, thats all Takara.

But I digress. Too many of you cant see them as a real company that makes mistakes so. Whatever.

Optimizzy wrote:quote="Hellscream9999"]
Well, I mean, isn't the trailer functional on this figure? As in you can load other figures into it; I think that that is a very acceptable reason to have hollow legs. And why is this such a major issue anyways, figures have had hollow bits for decades, sure this may be 'over the top' but this purely for functional reasons.

fenrir72 wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:I like how its posed in such an awesome way that hides the hollow legs.

I mean, its cool and I probably will get it, but the hollowness is a little disapointing. I mean, I would have paid a little bit more to have a figure without gaps. Especially from Takara.

The hollow shins is for the trailer function of the figure when it is in truck mode. That's kind of the selling point..........trailer that can carry TAV or TED class figures. Remove the hollowness, then no can carry anything.

Same can be said for Godginrai/PM OPtimus prime. Had hollow shins too.

lol. you guys.

It just floors me how much there is of TAKARA=Good, HASBRO=bad. The trailer is a selling point?? Really?

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm sure a 3rd Party will come up with an upgrade kit made out of panels to cover the gaps. Panels that can pop on and off easely, of course.

Also, I wonder. How come Takara didnt engeneered some panels that fold up to cover the gaps? Look easy enough to do so.

Anyway, I'm still glad I preordered mine!

Yes I agree Kanrabat, it seemed liked a simple thing to do. I mean, it's just panels. You can't see it straight on, but man...is it noticeable when you do see it.

I mean, really. I think it's fair to point out that this is a failing of the design. If there was some panels in the original design, I would not hesitate to buy this...however, as it is I really cant say this is a must buy. And guys, thats all Takara.

But I digress. Too many of you cant see them as a real company that makes mistakes so. Whatever.[/quote]


The "Upsized" TAV version which can carry other cars not the selling point? So what makes this different from the domestic releases? Ohhh, they, the other Optimus' of the TAV line are all weenie sizes that can't "carry" any other figure when in truck mode.

If following your logic, you'd be getting an upsized "lazy" mold of Optimus for the sake of it? I'm getting this for the added interactivity and functionality not found in the other TAV Optimus'.

This has nothing to do with Tomy being good or bad . Well, the good is that it IS being released by TT for the Japan market and not by Hasbro worldwide.That was never the issue. Seems like some are just complaining or looking for issues when there is NO issue at all. Just like the posing by TFYuki over Arcee.

Just pushing the point, if the shins are whole and not hollow, how then where will you park/carry the other Autobot cars in trailer mode? Add extra folding panels? Then we'll be hearing complaints that the figure is waaaaaaaaaay too expensive. Like it or not, TT is also aiming to keep certain figures in a certain SRP. I don't need to be an engineer to figure that out and you seem to see that all TT does is make mistakes. Whatever.

Hey Hellscream, I saw your question on whether or not Hasbro can use a mold Takara made in house and I dont know the answer. I have had that question for as long as I have been collecting. In G1, the design was all Takara and Hasbro licensed out the toys. But with Beast Wars, it was all Hasbro's idea. And they commissioned Takara to do the engineering based off their designs. Takara then made their own in house designs and Hasbro never distributed them (Korea did though, in the same way that Hasbro had licensed Takara toys for G1, which is why you can have dirt cheap Beast Wars Neo toys made in amazing Takara quality). However, Hasbro did eventually use some of those molds in later lines, like Guiledart for it<s Dinobot line and Big Convoy as Nemesis Prime for the Universe line. So there is precedent for Hasbro repurposing a Takara design.

Even recently, funpub used the Takara in house designed Tranformers Prime Breakdown mold to make their Botcon 2015 Megatron (which sucks cause its a mold everyone wanted and it's now here as simply another megatron toy and more expensive than the actual Takara product).

So there is precedent for Hasbro using a Takara designed mold but I have no examples of using it for the same line aside from the Masterpiece line (with years in delay and far from every figure accounted for). Which means that I am really not sure this cool Optimus toy will see a stateside release, and same goes with the Takara deluxe Groove.

Also, Hasbro never distributed the Takara Infinity toys either. That's a whole line of Takara designed molds we will never see here and it is a very recent example.

william-james88 wrote:Hey Hellscream, I saw your question on whether or not Hasbro can use a mold Takara made in house and I dont know the answer. I have had that question for as long as I have been collecting. In G1, the design was all Takara and Hasbro licensed out the toys. But with Beast Wars, it was all Hasbro's idea. And they commissioned Takara to do the engineering based off their designs. Takara then made their own in house designs and Hasbro never distributed them (Korea did though, in the same way that Hasbro had licensed Takara toys for G1, which is why you can have dirt cheap Beast Wars Neo toys made in amazing Takara quality). However, Hasbro did eventually use some of those molds in later lines, like Guiledart for it<s Dinobot line and Big Convoy as Nemesis Prime for the Universe line. So there is precedent for Hasbro repurposing a Takara design.

Even recently, funpub used the Takara in house designed Tranformers Prime Breakdown mold to make their Botcon 2015 Megatron (which sucks cause its a mold everyone wanted and it's now here as simply another megatron toy and more expensive than the actual Takara product).

So there is precedent for Hasbro using a Takara designed mold but I have no examples of using it for the same line aside from the Masterpiece line (with years in delay and far from every figure accounted for). Which means that I am really not sure this cool Optimus toy will see a stateside release, and same goes with the Takara deluxe Groove.

Also, Hasbro never distributed the Takara Infinity toys either. That's a whole line of Takara designed molds we will never see here and it is a very recent example.

That's it exactly; I new that hellscream big convoy and breakdown have been used; and that sometimes hasbro licences molds from TT, and sometimes TT licences molds from hasbro.

It really irritates me that a toy line aimed at being fun for kids continues to regurgitate crappy bricks, when vastly superior versions exist. It probably wouldn't be too expensive, hell they could even drop the electronics if they had too. This just seems to be a conscious effort, on the part of pr or the bigwigs, to make these bricks as a way to rebrand themselves, when it kinda isn't working - like a half-a$$ed publicity stunt.

Yes they sell some places - not anywhere I live though, but they aren't fun, don't have much longevity, and just kinda blow for the pricepoint of some of them.

One thing is sure, the Alternity line is Japan exclusive. My and my friend both ordered that sexy mofo. One for each of us. Pretty expensive at 80$CAN shipped (each), but WE NEED IT!