Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Swarp (Swerve) and Tailgate and LG09 Brainstorm Pre-Orders
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Comment by MemphisR56
Sep 3, 2014
That grey plastic on the brainstorm is awful dark, the faceplate looks quite dull in those pictures too. It's quite a heavy contrast against the blue; remembering my childhood brainstorm figure it feels as though the hasbro version is the more accurate this time around.
Swerve and Tailgate look quite dull too, a lot unchanged; there was a lot of potential for tailgate to get some extra paint apps and break up all that white too, but all I can see that they've done is remove the blue flames from the hood.
That's cemented me picking up the hasbro versions then.
Swerve and Tailgate look quite dull too, a lot unchanged; there was a lot of potential for tailgate to get some extra paint apps and break up all that white too, but all I can see that they've done is remove the blue flames from the hood.
That's cemented me picking up the hasbro versions then.
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Sep 3, 2014
"Swarp" is actually a misreading of the Japanese kana for Swerve. Stores are well-known do to that. Just saying 
And good to see the name Arcana being confirmed, and Flanker is now Phaser? 
And good to see the name Arcana being confirmed, and Flanker is now Phaser?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Swarp (Swerve) and Tailgate and LG09 Brainstorm Pre-Orders
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The way Swerve's name is spelled in Japanese Katakana, スワーブ, gives us the Romanization of "Suwābu". Seeing as how the "bu" sound (ブ) is made from almost the same character as the "pu" sound (プ) but with a two little notches instead of little circle, it seems that RobotKingdom misread the ブ as a プ and misconstrued "Suwābu" into "Suwāpu" and came out with "Swarp" instead of "Swerve".
A similar thing happened with the Prime Arms Micron Swerve figure (the remold of Breakdown), whose name was initially mistranslated as "Swoop" (which is also written as スワープ "Swāpu", with the same little difference from スワーブ "Suwābu" in its プ vs. the latter's ブ)
Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 3, 2014
"Swarp" is a mistranslation.Va'al wrote:(with the amusingly named Swarp)
The way Swerve's name is spelled in Japanese Katakana, スワーブ, gives us the Romanization of "Suwābu". Seeing as how the "bu" sound (ブ) is made from almost the same character as the "pu" sound (プ) but with a two little notches instead of little circle, it seems that RobotKingdom misread the ブ as a プ and misconstrued "Suwābu" into "Suwāpu" and came out with "Swarp" instead of "Swerve".
A similar thing happened with the Prime Arms Micron Swerve figure (the remold of Breakdown), whose name was initially mistranslated as "Swoop" (which is also written as スワープ "Swāpu", with the same little difference from スワーブ "Suwābu" in its プ vs. the latter's ブ)
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Comment by Rated X
Sep 3, 2014
Takara needs to give fans a real tailgate from the scout windcharger mold, not this legends crappy mold.
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but now that the character has a new mold, i doubt we'll ever see it.
Comment by shajaki
Sep 3, 2014
*agrees*Rated X wrote:Takara needs to give fans a real tailgate from the scout windcharger mold, not this legends crappy mold.
but now that the character has a new mold, i doubt we'll ever see it.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 3, 2014
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Comment by khrome
Sep 3, 2014
Tailgate comes with a pooper-scooper bot? Thats gotta be embarassing.
"My minicon turns into an arm cannon!"
"Well MY minicon is my head! What's your minicon do, Tails?"
"um.. I dont wanna talk about it"
"My minicon turns into an arm cannon!"
"Well MY minicon is my head! What's your minicon do, Tails?"
"um.. I dont wanna talk about it"
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG08 Swarp (Swerve) and Tailgate and LG09 Brainstorm Pre-Orders
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Bomb disposal skid loader.
Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 3, 2014
khrome wrote:Tailgate comes with a pooper-scooper bot?
Bomb disposal skid loader.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 3, 2014
Those ARE the Hasbro versions pictured (with Tailgate's flames digitally edited out of the pics). Those Takara pics are using images of Hasbro figures.MemphisR56 wrote:That grey plastic on the brainstorm is awful dark, the faceplate looks quite dull in those pictures too. It's quite a heavy contrast against the blue; remembering my childhood brainstorm figure it feels as though the hasbro version is the more accurate this time around.
Swerve and Tailgate look quite dull too, a lot unchanged; there was a lot of potential for tailgate to get some extra paint apps and break up all that white too, but all I can see that they've done is remove the blue flames from the hood.
That's cemented me picking up the hasbro versions then.
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Once again, I think Hasbro has gone with the G1 toy as the basis for their "Classics" rendition while Takara-Tomy aims more for screen accuracy from the original cartoon series. The G1 Brainstorm toy has lighter gray plastics, but on the show, the gray in Brainstorm's character model was a LOT darker. I used to just buy what Hasbro released because it's more readily available in stores in the U.S. (and cheaper), but my tastes have turned to screen accuracy of late, so I'm leaning more towards the Takara release for Brainstorm now. That is, unless Takara goes too far in trying to make him "screen accurate" to Headmasters and paints a mouth over his mouth plate.
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Sep 5, 2014
MemphisR56 wrote:That grey plastic on the brainstorm is awful dark, the faceplate looks quite dull in those pictures too. It's quite a heavy contrast against the blue; remembering my childhood brainstorm figure it feels as though the hasbro version is the more accurate this time around.
Once again, I think Hasbro has gone with the G1 toy as the basis for their "Classics" rendition while Takara-Tomy aims more for screen accuracy from the original cartoon series. The G1 Brainstorm toy has lighter gray plastics, but on the show, the gray in Brainstorm's character model was a LOT darker. I used to just buy what Hasbro released because it's more readily available in stores in the U.S. (and cheaper), but my tastes have turned to screen accuracy of late, so I'm leaning more towards the Takara release for Brainstorm now. That is, unless Takara goes too far in trying to make him "screen accurate" to Headmasters and paints a mouth over his mouth plate.
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Comment by Wolfman Jake
Sep 5, 2014
Sorry, double posted somehow!
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Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 5, 2014
Sabrblade wrote:Those ARE the Hasbro versions pictured (with Tailgate's flames digitally edited out of the pics). Those Takara pics are using images of Hasbro figures.
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Brainstorm too? Is that what you're implying?
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Sep 5, 2014
Sabrblade wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Those ARE the Hasbro versions pictured (with Tailgate's flames digitally edited out of the pics). Those Takara pics are using images of Hasbro figures.
Brainstorm too? Is that what you're implying?
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Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 5, 2014
Yes. All figures shown in these pictures of the "foreign" (as in "Hasbro") versions as placeholders.Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Those ARE the Hasbro versions pictured (with Tailgate's flames digitally edited out of the pics). Those Takara pics are using images of Hasbro figures.
Brainstorm too? Is that what you're implying?
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I would ask, then, if the colors were purposely skewed on the Hasbro stock photos to show what Takara intends to do with the figure, hence the much darker looking gray plastics. They did alter the photos of Hasbro's Tailgate to remove the blue detailing on his alt mode, after all.
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Sep 6, 2014
Sabrblade wrote:Yes. All figures shown in these pictures of the "foreign" (as in "Hasbro") versions as placeholders.Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Those ARE the Hasbro versions pictured (with Tailgate's flames digitally edited out of the pics). Those Takara pics are using images of Hasbro figures.
Brainstorm too? Is that what you're implying?
I would ask, then, if the colors were purposely skewed on the Hasbro stock photos to show what Takara intends to do with the figure, hence the much darker looking gray plastics. They did alter the photos of Hasbro's Tailgate to remove the blue detailing on his alt mode, after all.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 6, 2014
Which Hasbro photos are these ones being compared to?Wolfman Jake wrote:I would ask, then, if the colors were purposely skewed on the Hasbro stock photos to show what Takara intends to do with the figure, hence the much darker looking gray plastics. They did alter the photos of Hasbro's Tailgate to remove the blue detailing on his alt mode, after all.
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I'm comparing them to what many websites are using for the Hasbro preorders, such as this one. I'm not sure if these Takara mock-ups are re-uses of Hasbro's stock photos or if Takara made their own stock photos from the Hasbro versions (and then maybe altered them).
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Sep 6, 2014
Sabrblade wrote:Which Hasbro photos are these ones being compared to?Wolfman Jake wrote:I would ask, then, if the colors were purposely skewed on the Hasbro stock photos to show what Takara intends to do with the figure, hence the much darker looking gray plastics. They did alter the photos of Hasbro's Tailgate to remove the blue detailing on his alt mode, after all.
I'm comparing them to what many websites are using for the Hasbro preorders, such as this one. I'm not sure if these Takara mock-ups are re-uses of Hasbro's stock photos or if Takara made their own stock photos from the Hasbro versions (and then maybe altered them).
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The early Hasbro stock photos rarely match they final products, as they are usually made from early (pre)production samples, airbrushed prototypes, or digital mock up proposals (like in the cases of redecos), made before the actual deco undergoes finalization.
Judging by its "light glare shininess", I'd have to guess that the Brainstorm seen in the Hasbro stock photos used by TFSource (and other sites) is an airbrushed prototype, while the one seen in these newer stock photos Takara's borrowed from Hasbro is a (pre)production sample.
An example of the picture quality differences between the two kinds of stock photography can be seen in the following comparison of two different Universe Vector Prime stock photos:
One the left is an airbrushed prototype, and on the right is a (pre)production sample (the latter also being closer to the final product's look). Paint app differences aside, notice how the left one has a similar "light glare shininess" to the original Brainstorm stock photos:
Versus the right's more flatter lit non-shininess like in the newer stock photo:
Comment by Sabrblade
Sep 6, 2014
Takara is using different stock photos of the Hasbro versions than the original Hasbro stock photos, which are what many websites (such as the one you linked to) are using.Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Which Hasbro photos are these ones being compared to?Wolfman Jake wrote:I would ask, then, if the colors were purposely skewed on the Hasbro stock photos to show what Takara intends to do with the figure, hence the much darker looking gray plastics. They did alter the photos of Hasbro's Tailgate to remove the blue detailing on his alt mode, after all.
I'm comparing them to what many websites are using for the Hasbro preorders, such as this one. I'm not sure if these Takara mock-ups are re-uses of Hasbro's stock photos or if Takara made their own stock photos from the Hasbro versions (and then maybe altered them).
The early Hasbro stock photos rarely match they final products, as they are usually made from early (pre)production samples, airbrushed prototypes, or digital mock up proposals (like in the cases of redecos), made before the actual deco undergoes finalization.
Judging by its "light glare shininess", I'd have to guess that the Brainstorm seen in the Hasbro stock photos used by TFSource (and other sites) is an airbrushed prototype, while the one seen in these newer stock photos Takara's borrowed from Hasbro is a (pre)production sample.
An example of the picture quality differences between the two kinds of stock photography can be seen in the following comparison of two different Universe Vector Prime stock photos:
One the left is an airbrushed prototype, and on the right is a (pre)production sample (the latter also being closer to the final product's look). Paint app differences aside, notice how the left one has a similar "light glare shininess" to the original Brainstorm stock photos:
Versus the right's more flatter lit non-shininess like in the newer stock photo:
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Comment by Wolfman Jake
Sep 7, 2014
With any luck, some real production photos of Takara's versions will be out in short order. Until then, I'll keep Hasbro's Brainstorm in my pre-order stack. I have a feeling that the Takara version won't disappoint, though.
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Comment by Va'al
Sep 9, 2014
While we have already seen the allegedly official Takara Tomy Legends images for the upcoming Voyager LG09 Brainstorm and LG08 Legends Swerve (Swarp) and Tailgate, Amazon.jp has some better quality single shots of the three figures, which we've mirrored below and linked to their listings. What do you say, placeholders, or the real deal?
