Takara Transformers Unite Warriors UW-03 Defensor Boxset Promotion Coin

I really wish they'd made the head larger and not gone with clip-on wheels those two things really put me off - also I think all versions need a lot more silver paint or even some chrome.

I guess all the complaining people did about Jetfire made Hasbro & Takara think the consumer doesn't like chrome - rather than what they should have thought which is the consumer may not like chrome in all the wrong places.

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You have me wondering now how the Asian release of United Warriors Guardian will effect the online retailer price of the original ?

RAR wrote:I really wish they'd made the head larger and not gone with clip-on wheels those two things really put me off - also I think all versions need a lot more silver paint or even some chrome.

I guess all the complaining people did about Jetfire made Hasbro & Takara think the consumer doesn't like chrome - rather than what they should have thought which is the consumer may not like chrome in all the wrong places.

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You have me wondering now how the Asian release of United Warriors Guardian will effect the online retailer price of the original ?

The problem with chrome is that it flakes and Takara hasn't really done anything withe chrom now in 6 years with classics themed stuff. Henkai had the chrome bits which was awful because they became a flakey mess. Then United was that metallic paint and legends is really just making paint decos as accurate as possible. It's always a theme with Takara.

Honestly I don't think you could make devys head bigger without having to really re-engineer hook since the heard is jut as long and wide as his back and needs to be consealed.

His head is honestly not that small. I own the hasbro one and it looks just fine and I have no intentions of getting takaras because 1. I don't need elbows on guys that are just limbs 90% of the time because he's always in devastator mode and 2. He's not worth takaras price for a small bit of re-engineering and a little extra paint.

william-james88 wrote:

RAR wrote:
You have me wondering now how the Asian release of United Warriors Guardian will effect the online retailer price of the original ?

Original what? Hasbro version?

And the asian release of Guardian is the only version we were ever able to buy from online retailers anyway (BBTS and TFSource never sold the Japanese edition) so I don't really understand.

Also as for Hasbro not doing much chrome, my newly acquired Platinum Dinos beg to differ



(but yeah, I know what you mean, though I love Jetfire's chrome)

They don't. a limited platinum edition that wasn't available everywhere, an SDCC combiner and generations jetfire are three examples out of hundreds of products that have come out in the past few years.

I removed the chrome off my jetfire 2 hours after I bought him and he looks lovely. I went to a buddy's place and saw his version with chrome already flaking and said "oh god I forgot how hideous he looked originally" lol

Randomhero wrote:(but yeah, I know what you mean, though I love Jetfire's chrome)

They don't. a limited platinum edition that wasn't available everywhere, an SDCC combiner and generations jetfire are three examples out of hundreds of products that have come out in the past few years.
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I was just joking around.

Devy looks very good as expected and the Defensor Groove chest is just too funny

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote: He's not worth takaras price for a small bit of re-engineering and a little extra paint.

For the last freaken time, he might cost you more because of shipping but Takara charges the same as Hasbro for their Transfomer Toys! In reality Hasbro is the one who is more expensively priced because they charge the same giving you less.

Takaras is $220. Hasbros was $130 I paid $140 for mine with the shipping. Sorry But an extra $80+ for elbows and a slightly different deco doesn't justify it in my opinion. I could even buy perfect effects kit that give elbows and still not spend as much as the online prices for Takaras

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote: He's not worth takaras price for a small bit of re-engineering and a little extra paint.

For the last freaken time, he might cost you more because of shipping but Takara charges the same as Hasbro for their Transfomer Toys! In reality Hasbro is the one who is more expensively priced because they charge the same giving you less.

Takaras is $220. Hasbros was $130 I paid $140 for mine with the shipping. Sorry But an extra $80+ for elbows and a slightly different deco doesn't justify it in my opinion. I could even buy perfect effects kit that give elbows and still not spend as much as the online prices for Takaras

No, Hasbro's was initially 150$-160$ and Takara's is still available at 152$. When talking about PRICE Takara and Hasbro are charging, you have to compare what Hasbro is charging in its local market compared to Takara in theirs. Not a discounted Hasbro retailer vs an importer's Takara. Get your facts straight and open your eyes. Hasbro itself is charging the same for less.

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote: He's not worth takaras price for a small bit of re-engineering and a little extra paint.

For the last freaken time, he might cost you more because of shipping but Takara charges the same as Hasbro for their Transfomer Toys! In reality Hasbro is the one who is more expensively priced because they charge the same giving you less.

Takaras is $220. Hasbros was $130 I paid $140 for mine with the shipping. Sorry But an extra $80+ for elbows and a slightly different deco doesn't justify it in my opinion. I could even buy perfect effects kit that give elbows and still not spend as much as the online prices for Takaras

No, Hasbro's was initially 150$-160$ and Takara's is still available at 152$. When talking about PRICE Takara and Hasbro are charging, you have to compare what Hasbro is charging in its local market compared to Takara in theirs. Not a discounted Hasbro retailer vs an importer's Takara. Get your facts straight and open your eyes. Hasbro itself is charging the same for less.

You are being kind of aggressive on this for not really understanding that $152 dollars in the US is not the same buying power as $152 dollars in Japan. Exchange rates matter.

Your general point about Hasbro over-costing this has some merit though. I think the $110 discount price in the US is probably closer to the real cost plus mark-up. It's hard to tell what's what with larger toys and the factors that play into them though.

Counterpunch wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote: He's not worth takaras price for a small bit of re-engineering and a little extra paint.

For the last freaken time, he might cost you more because of shipping but Takara charges the same as Hasbro for their Transfomer Toys! In reality Hasbro is the one who is more expensively priced because they charge the same giving you less.

Takaras is $220. Hasbros was $130 I paid $140 for mine with the shipping. Sorry But an extra $80+ for elbows and a slightly different deco doesn't justify it in my opinion. I could even buy perfect effects kit that give elbows and still not spend as much as the online prices for Takaras

No, Hasbro's was initially 150$-160$ and Takara's is still available at 152$. When talking about PRICE Takara and Hasbro are charging, you have to compare what Hasbro is charging in its local market compared to Takara in theirs. Not a discounted Hasbro retailer vs an importer's Takara. Get your facts straight and open your eyes. Hasbro itself is charging the same for less.

You are being kind of aggressive on this for not really understanding that $152 dollars in the US is not the same buying power as $152 dollars in Japan. Exchange rates matter.

Your general point about Hasbro over-costing this has some merit though. I think the $110 discount price in the US is probably closer to the real cost plus mark-up. It's hard to tell what's what with larger toys and the factors that play into them though.

Plus, depending on shipping, if it gets upwards of online retail, you may as well just go through bbts, I dunno what shipping would cost everyone, if it would get up to $70, yeah, may as well go through bbts...

Randomhero wrote:No I'm fine paying what I paid. I got it cheaper than toysrus and it's an awesome figure. It'd one of the coolest things hasbro has put out in my opinion. If you feel like paying $80-$100 for "import pricing" for a little extra paint and elbows and that's how you justify it with "no it's the same price I'm just paying for a rediculous shipping cost for something I can drive to a toy store and buy" that's fine

I got my math wrong. I actually paid $140 for Takara Devastator through Anime-Export. Once shipping's calculated and my order ships, I expect Takara Devy to cost $170 all-in. Maximum.

For me, $30 extra for a superior product in almost every respect isn't that much of a lift (and I understand how fortunate I am to be in that financial situation, and recognize that not everyone has that advantage). If you're factoring in gas money to the equation for driving to the toy store, the difference is even smaller, so I'm not sure why you're writing it off like it's "rediculous" [sic].

Randomhero wrote:but that's also honestly sad too.

And who are you to judge exactly? I paid $45 less than you for Hasbro Devastator. Not to put too fine a point on it, but it's all relative. So whatever, I guess.

Counterpunch wrote:You are being kind of aggressive on this for not really understanding that $152 dollars in the US is not the same buying power as $152 dollars in Japan. Exchange rates matter.

Issues of purchasing power matter if you're comparing what an American/Canadian citizen can buy vs. what a Japanese citizen can buy, but that's not the discussion (I assumed). It's more what an American can buy here vs. what that same person can buy over in Japan. To us it's the same money.