Thought it might be interesting to know that in addition to Hasbro Pulse cancelling orders recently for Legacy Nacelle, a friend and I both had our orders for Studio Series 102 Buzzworthy Optimus Prime cancelled by Target last night. We had placed preorders in June and had the orders delayed multiple times before getting cancelled outright. When I contacted Target support about it I was told it was due to limited inventory. If you hear from anyone else about it and can determine that it's a widespread issue, could be an interesting article.
Target Cancelling Orders for Studio Series 102 ROTB Optimus Prime
			
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			Sep 27, 2023 at 7:45am CDT
			
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							 Comment by G1OptimusPAX
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						Announced last night. There are a number of Target stores closing due to retail theft, so this could be the beginning of a trend moving forward. Target has lost a ton of money over the past few years for a bunch of reasons.
					
						
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Nine stores out of nearly two thousand, and in only four states. I wouldn't overgeneralize on the impact, especially from a toy collecting perspective.
					
				
							 Comment by AcademyofDrX
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						G1OptimusPAX wrote:Announced last night. There are a number of Target stores closing due to retail theft, so this could be the beginning of a trend moving forward. Target has lost a ton of money over the past few years for a bunch of reasons.
Nine stores out of nearly two thousand, and in only four states. I wouldn't overgeneralize on the impact, especially from a toy collecting perspective.
						
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							 Comment by Grahf_
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						They finally cancelled my preorder yesterday, September 26th, as well. I had originally placed my order on May 27th.
					
						
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							 Comment by robotcaveman
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						I would strongly suggest suing Target for this because “limited quantity” is a very poor excuse for them to just cancel your order out of nowhere when you’ve paid good money for that figure and you’ve been waiting very patiently for its arrival.
					
						
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There was the clothing incident with the LGBTQ... they lost tons of money... and "from a collecting perspective ", where is the money coming from to sustain this company? Preorders on toys? Hell, transformers toys and others are being stolen too. At an ALARMING rate. I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped stocking the majority of toys that are in a certain price range.
					
				
							 Comment by G1OptimusPAX
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						AcademyofDrX wrote:G1OptimusPAX wrote:Announced last night. There are a number of Target stores closing due to retail theft, so this could be the beginning of a trend moving forward. Target has lost a ton of money over the past few years for a bunch of reasons.
Nine stores out of nearly two thousand, and in only four states. I wouldn't overgeneralize on the impact, especially from a toy collecting perspective.
There was the clothing incident with the LGBTQ... they lost tons of money... and "from a collecting perspective ", where is the money coming from to sustain this company? Preorders on toys? Hell, transformers toys and others are being stolen too. At an ALARMING rate. I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped stocking the majority of toys that are in a certain price range.
						
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Yeah, no thank you, I'm full up on culture war grievance. Have a nice day.
					
				
							 Comment by AcademyofDrX
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						G1OptimusPAX wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:G1OptimusPAX wrote:Announced last night. There are a number of Target stores closing due to retail theft, so this could be the beginning of a trend moving forward. Target has lost a ton of money over the past few years for a bunch of reasons.
Nine stores out of nearly two thousand, and in only four states. I wouldn't overgeneralize on the impact, especially from a toy collecting perspective.
There was the clothing incident with the LGBTQ... they lost tons of money... and "from a collecting perspective ", where is the money coming from to sustain this company? Preorders on toys? Hell, transformers toys and others are being stolen too. At an ALARMING rate. I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped stocking the majority of toys that are in a certain price range.
Yeah, no thank you, I'm full up on culture war grievance. Have a nice day.
						
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							 Comment by G1OptimusPAX
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						"grievance"...? I'm talking about target losing money. I could give a damn about target and their politics. I have no idea why people preorder from places like Walmart an target. You don't have to worry about these type of  issues with BBTS or TF SOURCE.
					
						
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Yeah, I agree with you on both counts. First, didn't seem like a grievance just a reference to their recent multi billion dollar losses (that they are being sued by stockholders for, so it's well documented).
Second, WalMart and Upscale WalMart (aka Target) don't seem to have a good record on preorders. I'm seeing a constant stream of "WalMart/Target cancelled my preorder again" on this forum and on multiple FB groups. While not good business practice, these preorders don't even register as a teensy blip in their overall gross income so they won't do anything differently in the future.
					
				
							 Comment by First-Aid
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						G1OptimusPAX wrote:"grievance"...? I'm talking about target losing money. I could give a damn about target and their politics. I have no idea why people preorder from places like Walmart an target. You don't have to worry about these type of issues with BBTS or TF SOURCE.
Yeah, I agree with you on both counts. First, didn't seem like a grievance just a reference to their recent multi billion dollar losses (that they are being sued by stockholders for, so it's well documented).
Second, WalMart and Upscale WalMart (aka Target) don't seem to have a good record on preorders. I'm seeing a constant stream of "WalMart/Target cancelled my preorder again" on this forum and on multiple FB groups. While not good business practice, these preorders don't even register as a teensy blip in their overall gross income so they won't do anything differently in the future.
						
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AMEN Brotha, AMEN.
					
				
							 Comment by G1OptimusPAX
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						First-Aid wrote:G1OptimusPAX wrote:"grievance"...? I'm talking about target losing money. I could give a damn about target and their politics. I have no idea why people preorder from places like Walmart an target. You don't have to worry about these type of issues with BBTS or TF SOURCE.
Yeah, I agree with you on both counts. First, didn't seem like a grievance just a reference to their recent multi billion dollar losses (that they are being sued by stockholders for, so it's well documented).
Second, WalMart and Upscale WalMart (aka Target) don't seem to have a good record on preorders. I'm seeing a constant stream of "WalMart/Target cancelled my preorder again" on this forum and on multiple FB groups. While not good business practice, these preorders don't even register as a teensy blip in their overall gross income so they won't do anything differently in the future.
AMEN Brotha, AMEN.
						
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							 Comment by AcademyofDrX
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						Mods have spoken, no reason to keep this post up
					
						
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							 Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						Back on Track Please...
					
						
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"Yeah, no thank you, I'm full up on culture war grievance. Have a nice day."
That didn't last long at all
					
				
							 Comment by G1OptimusPAX
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						AcademyofDrX wrote:First-Aid wrote:Yeah, I agree with you on both counts. First, didn't seem like a grievance just a reference to their recent multi billion dollar losses (that they are being sued by stockholders for, so it's well documented).
Yeah, but who's doing the suing?
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/09/target- ... ndise.html
"America First is a nonprofit group headed by Stephen Miller, a former adviser to ex-President Donald Trump.
"The lawsuit is the latest in a legal battle in which conservative legal groups and Republican legislators are challenging corporations that have enacted policies on social issues such as race and gender."
Are you being overly credulous by calling them "stockholders," or do you support the suit?
"Yeah, no thank you, I'm full up on culture war grievance. Have a nice day."
That didn't last long at all
						
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DOn't care as I don't own stock, just stating that there are lawsuits as a fact not a judgement. ALL Stockholders lost money and there are multiple suits. It's their right to expect competent business leadership and usually the loss of monetary value of this magnitude is a red flag. Suits like this are commonplace. Politically, don't give a rats patoote as I hate both sides equally.
					
				
							 Comment by First-Aid
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						AcademyofDrX wrote:First-Aid wrote:Yeah, I agree with you on both counts. First, didn't seem like a grievance just a reference to their recent multi billion dollar losses (that they are being sued by stockholders for, so it's well documented).
Yeah, but who's doing the suing?
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/09/target- ... ndise.html
"America First is a nonprofit group headed by Stephen Miller, a former adviser to ex-President Donald Trump.
"The lawsuit is the latest in a legal battle in which conservative legal groups and Republican legislators are challenging corporations that have enacted policies on social issues such as race and gender."
Are you being overly credulous by calling them "stockholders," or do you support the suit?
DOn't care as I don't own stock, just stating that there are lawsuits as a fact not a judgement. ALL Stockholders lost money and there are multiple suits. It's their right to expect competent business leadership and usually the loss of monetary value of this magnitude is a red flag. Suits like this are commonplace. Politically, don't give a rats patoote as I hate both sides equally.
						
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							 Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Back on Track Please...
						
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HELLO? (Hello?....hello...?)
ECHO! (Echo!...echo...)
PINCH HITTING FOR PEDRO BOURBON...MANNY MOTA! (Mota!...mota....)
					
				
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							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						D-Maximal_Primal wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Back on Track Please...
HELLO? (Hello?....hello...?)
ECHO! (Echo!...echo...)
PINCH HITTING FOR PEDRO BOURBON...MANNY MOTA! (Mota!...mota....)
						
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							 Comment by Sabrblade
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						The reason people preordered with Target in the specific case of this ROTB Optimus Prime figure, as opposed to preordering with either BBTS or TFSource, is because the figure in question is a Target-exclusive Buzzworthy Bumblebee figure. BBTS and TFSource wouldn't get this one in stock. So Target canceling preorders for this one figure is disconcerting because Target is the only venue from which this figure is available.
I've actually seen the figure in person at my local Target maybe once or twice, so it is at least out there in the wild, physically. For those who still want it, happy hunting.
					I've actually seen the figure in person at my local Target maybe once or twice, so it is at least out there in the wild, physically. For those who still want it, happy hunting.
						
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							 Comment by DeathReviews
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						I look on the cancellations as just an ancillary continuation of the general lack of reliable supply and distribution of some figures.  Especially ones that seem to be in demand.  After what happened with Velocitron Cosmos, the Centurion Drone pack and other figures, why should another troubled release come as any surprise?
					
						
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							 Comment by Quantum Surge
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						It was a miracle none of this happened with Hasbro Pulse (unlike Nacelle)
					
						
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							 Comment by blackeyedprime
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						Isn't the figure just a reissue anyways? Hope the stock levels balance out and it becomes available again for those that want it.
					
						
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							 Comment by First-Aid
							 Sep 27, 2023						
						
						I'm sad no one got my movie reference....