Transformers Robots in Disguise Decepticon Showdown Giftset and Power Surge Starscream
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Its not like they did in the past:

Transformers Beast Wars Scorponok (Scorpos) Gallery
Comment by william-james88
Jul 15, 2016
Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.
Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors
Its not like they did in the past:

Transformers Beast Wars Scorponok (Scorpos) Gallery
Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise Decepticon Showdown Giftset and Power Surge Starscream
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I don't get what you're trying to say
Comment by Hellscream9999
Jul 15, 2016
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.
Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors
Its not like they did in the past:
Transformers Beast Wars Scorponok (Scorpos) Gallery
I don't get what you're trying to say

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Hasbro exec 2: "Hrm, well, he's already Scorponok. Are there any other scorpion-based TFs?"
Hasbro exec 1: "Let's see... Hey, Beast Wars had a Scorponok that was very different from most Scorponoks!"
Hasbro exec 2: "Okay, let's do that! What color was he?"
Hasbro exec 1: "Kinda dark, I think. Purple, maybe?"
Hasbro exec 2: "Yeah, I think that sounds right. We'll go with that."
Hasbro exec 1: "Purple it is! My man!"
Hasbro exec 2: "My man!"
*body slam*
Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 15, 2016
Hasbro exec 1: "So, now that we have this new Scorponok toy, what can we redeco/retool it as?"Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.
Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors
Hasbro exec 2: "Hrm, well, he's already Scorponok. Are there any other scorpion-based TFs?"
Hasbro exec 1: "Let's see... Hey, Beast Wars had a Scorponok that was very different from most Scorponoks!"
Hasbro exec 2: "Okay, let's do that! What color was he?"
Hasbro exec 1: "Kinda dark, I think. Purple, maybe?"
Hasbro exec 2: "Yeah, I think that sounds right. We'll go with that."
Hasbro exec 1: "Purple it is! My man!"
Hasbro exec 2: "My man!"
*body slam*
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 15, 2016
In defense of the original toy, the toy came before the show design. The show deviated from the toy, rather than vice versa.william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.
Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors
Its not like they did in the past:
Transformers Beast Wars Scorponok (Scorpos) Gallery
Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise Decepticon Showdown Giftset and Power Surge Starscream
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Hasbro's BW Scorponok toys were never the samecolour as the show, thats all I meant.
However, giving it a closer look, he's not that far off:
Comment by william-james88
Jul 15, 2016
Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't get what you're trying to say
Hasbro's BW Scorponok toys were never the samecolour as the show, thats all I meant.
However, giving it a closer look, he's not that far off:

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I honestly can believe that, which is really, really sad. It honestly feels like every bw 'celebratory' thing they try to do ends up being awkward and half-a$$ed, and ends up coming across as a slap in the face to bw fans... 'Hey we're not going to celebrate the anniversary this year', 'hey here's a bmach figure from rid dressed up as g1 prime', 'hey, here's an inappropriately colored bw scorponok homage'... all they had to do was give him black plastic (or whatever color he was translucent gunmetal maybe, some of the photo's look like it)
Comment by Hellscream9999
Jul 15, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro exec 1: "So, now that we have this new Scorponok toy, what can we redeco/retool it as?"Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Pretty sure Hasbro considers Paralon to already be the BW Scorponok redeco.Mindmaster wrote:If Paralon never gets a BW Scorponok redeco, I will forever be disappointed.
Pity they couldn't even do that right then, and give him his proper colors
Hasbro exec 2: "Hrm, well, he's already Scorponok. Are there any other scorpion-based TFs?"
Hasbro exec 1: "Let's see... Hey, Beast Wars had a Scorponok that was very different from most Scorponoks!"
Hasbro exec 2: "Okay, let's do that! What color was he?"
Hasbro exec 1: "Kinda dark, I think. Purple, maybe?"
Hasbro exec 2: "Yeah, I think that sounds right. We'll go with that."
Hasbro exec 1: "Purple it is! My man!"
Hasbro exec 2: "My man!"
*body slam*
I honestly can believe that, which is really, really sad. It honestly feels like every bw 'celebratory' thing they try to do ends up being awkward and half-a$$ed, and ends up coming across as a slap in the face to bw fans... 'Hey we're not going to celebrate the anniversary this year', 'hey here's a bmach figure from rid dressed up as g1 prime', 'hey, here's an inappropriately colored bw scorponok homage'... all they had to do was give him black plastic (or whatever color he was translucent gunmetal maybe, some of the photo's look like it)

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Yeah, but he's not purple, he's a weird gunmetal blue-grey-ish lavender, I honestly don't know what color he is, but the paralon colors are not that, they aren't even close

Comment by Hellscream9999
Jul 15, 2016
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I don't get what you're trying to say
Hasbro's BW Scorponok toys were never the samecolour as the show, thats all I meant.
However, giving it a closer look, he's not that far off:
Yeah, but he's not purple, he's a weird gunmetal blue-grey-ish lavender, I honestly don't know what color he is, but the paralon colors are not that, they aren't even close



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Comment by Evil Eye
Jul 15, 2016
You sound so surprised. John Warden is pretty much a hard-core GEEWUNer who refers to Beast Wars as the "dark times". There's a reason over at /toy/ we call him John "Not Muh GEEWUN, Not Getting Done" Warden (along with John "Beast Wars was a mistake" Warden, John "Hollow Torso, Limbs Even Moreso" Warden etc).
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Really? I didnt know that. Any links to quotes that show how he feels about Beast Wars?
Comment by william-james88
Jul 15, 2016
Delta Magnus wrote:You sound so surprised. John Warden is pretty much a hard-core GEEWUNer who refers to Beast Wars as the "dark times". There's a reason over at /toy/ we call him John "Not Muh GEEWUN, Not Getting Done" Warden (along with John "Beast Wars was a mistake" Warden, John "Hollow Torso, Limbs Even Moreso" Warden etc).
Really? I didnt know that. Any links to quotes that show how he feels about Beast Wars?
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Comment by superhomme
Jul 15, 2016
I like very much this Warrior Starscream that just came from the RID line, mix between G1 movie and Armada. 

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I'm afraid I don't have any quotes on me, no. It's funny, I could have sworn I'd seen it somewhere but it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet. Doesn't help the biggest compendium of TF knowledge (TFWiki) is run by literal Hasbro shills who actually go out of their way to scrub anything that goes against the "Party line" from the wiki, so they probably would have removed it.
EDIT: Never mind, found a screenshot courtesy of the Allspark. It is from David Willis/ItsWalky though so YMMV on reliability.

Anyway, this is off topic and I apologize.
I wonder what TAV Starscream is going to look like?
Comment by Evil Eye
Jul 15, 2016
william-james88 wrote:Delta Magnus wrote:You sound so surprised. John Warden is pretty much a hard-core GEEWUNer who refers to Beast Wars as the "dark times". There's a reason over at /toy/ we call him John "Not Muh GEEWUN, Not Getting Done" Warden (along with John "Beast Wars was a mistake" Warden, John "Hollow Torso, Limbs Even Moreso" Warden etc).
Really? I didnt know that. Any links to quotes that show how he feels about Beast Wars?
I'm afraid I don't have any quotes on me, no. It's funny, I could have sworn I'd seen it somewhere but it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet. Doesn't help the biggest compendium of TF knowledge (TFWiki) is run by literal Hasbro shills who actually go out of their way to scrub anything that goes against the "Party line" from the wiki, so they probably would have removed it.
EDIT: Never mind, found a screenshot courtesy of the Allspark. It is from David Willis/ItsWalky though so YMMV on reliability.

Anyway, this is off topic and I apologize.
I wonder what TAV Starscream is going to look like?
Re: Transformers Robots in Disguise Decepticon Showdown Giftset and Power Surge Starscream
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Does it really matter at all in the grand scheme of things?
Lavender and Purple are hardly different colors their just different shades of the same thing Paralon is a Beast Wars Homage not actually the Beast Wars character himself.
Why don't you just paint it if you don't like the color palette and if you can't paint then get a buddy too that's what I do.
Comment by Deadput
Jul 17, 2016
Hellscream9999 wrote:Yeah, but he's not purple, he's a weird gunmetal blue-grey-ish lavender, I honestly don't know what color he is, but the paralon colors are not that, they aren't even close
Does it really matter at all in the grand scheme of things?
Lavender and Purple are hardly different colors their just different shades of the same thing Paralon is a Beast Wars Homage not actually the Beast Wars character himself.
Why don't you just paint it if you don't like the color palette and if you can't paint then get a buddy too that's what I do.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jul 17, 2016
Ok, I want to get that Starscream, and I want to get that version of Prime. The Thunderclash vehicle mode colors just work for me, especially with the robot mode. I'm ignoring the repaint decepticons, so this guy will go the same way as Scatterspike
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I got them all. While I dont like repaints, I got Paralon because I just wanted to try out that mold and this one came out first. Plus that head is amazing, gorgeous paint apps on it. He has great paint and colour all around with a nice mix of plastic colours. I will be reviewing them all tonight
For now, here is the box assortment, where we can see that Starscream makes up half of the box. This may be an indication that Hasbro is aware of how sought after this toy would be and that this was indeed the first planned release of this mold.
Comment by william-james88
Jul 18, 2016
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Ok, I want to get that Starscream, and I want to get that version of Prime. The Thunderclash vehicle mode colors just work for me, especially with the robot mode. I'm ignoring the repaint decepticons, so this guy will go the same way as Scatterspike
I got them all. While I dont like repaints, I got Paralon because I just wanted to try out that mold and this one came out first. Plus that head is amazing, gorgeous paint apps on it. He has great paint and colour all around with a nice mix of plastic colours. I will be reviewing them all tonight

For now, here is the box assortment, where we can see that Starscream makes up half of the box. This may be an indication that Hasbro is aware of how sought after this toy would be and that this was indeed the first planned release of this mold.

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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jul 18, 2016
Huh, interesting. I may be making my run tonight so we'll see if US TRU has this guy
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Comment by william-james88
Jul 18, 2016
I was able to purchase the three Toysrus Exclusive Clash of the Transformers 2016 figures from the Robots in Diguise Line. Pictures with comparisons to others toys, along with a written review of each will be posted later and in the meantime I wanted to point out the box assortment and post some clearer images of the art and official stock images found on the boxes, which also showcase the transformation.
Here is the box assortment, where we can see that Starscream makes up half of the box (with two Primes and two Paralons). This may be an indication that Hasbro is aware of how sought after this toy would be and that this is indeed the first planned release of this mold and the main release of this character in the warrior class.

Below you will find the box bar codes along with the side art. Only Starcream's art is accurate. Optimus is reused with no change in colour (unlike the toy) and Paralon has the wrong head.
Those images are followed by the back of the box of each of them, which showcases Hasbro's 3d rendered stock images which will probably be featured when these figures are officially revealed. You can also see the transformation steps.





While it seems Starscream has the least steps, he actually turns out to be the most complex. We will dive into this more with the upcoming pictorial reviews so stay tuned.
Here is the box assortment, where we can see that Starscream makes up half of the box (with two Primes and two Paralons). This may be an indication that Hasbro is aware of how sought after this toy would be and that this is indeed the first planned release of this mold and the main release of this character in the warrior class.

Below you will find the box bar codes along with the side art. Only Starcream's art is accurate. Optimus is reused with no change in colour (unlike the toy) and Paralon has the wrong head.
Those images are followed by the back of the box of each of them, which showcases Hasbro's 3d rendered stock images which will probably be featured when these figures are officially revealed. You can also see the transformation steps.





While it seems Starscream has the least steps, he actually turns out to be the most complex. We will dive into this more with the upcoming pictorial reviews so stay tuned.
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Comment by Cobotron
Jul 18, 2016
Will, not sure if you've opened them yet, but does it look to you like Optimus's forearms are the same as the previous Warrior toy's? Wondering if they would need that same fan mod.
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Comment by Sigma Magnus
Jul 18, 2016
Man, the stock photos make 'Scream look a lot worse than he is...that's why I look for in hand pictures and reviews, the stock photos often make a good toy look awful...
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jul 18, 2016
They do not. The new warrior Power surge Primes have the truck grill end up on the shoulder pads, so the fists are no longer blocked by kibble. no fan mod needed here
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They arent
I will be showing comparison pics tonight. For now, just look at the shoulders, you will see how far they extend which means there is a smaller panel on the forearms.
Comment by william-james88
Jul 18, 2016
Cobotron wrote:Will, not sure if you've opened them yet, but does it look to you like Optimus's forearms are the same as the previous Warrior toy's? Wondering if they would need that same fan mod.
They arent

I will be showing comparison pics tonight. For now, just look at the shoulders, you will see how far they extend which means there is a smaller panel on the forearms.