Transformers Subscription Service 3.0 G2 Starscream Now Arriving in Mailboxes
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Comment by Sabrblade
Oct 13, 2015
Even better, no QC issues on mine. The wing connectors are assembled CORRECTLY! 
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Comment by Nemesis Destron
Oct 13, 2015
Very cool to hear, guess I better start my patrol on ebay. 
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Comment by Tigertrack
Oct 13, 2015
It's actually a very good deco. My wings are very loose, but otherwise seems fine.
A really nice figure to add to the g2 collection.
A really nice figure to add to the g2 collection.
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Unfortunately mine are not
Comment by LOST Cybertronian
Oct 13, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:Even better, no QC issues on mine. The wing connectors are assembled CORRECTLY!
Unfortunately mine are not
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Kinda makes you glad you payed so much for them, and reassures me that I was right to not go in on thunder mayhem; imagine what would happen if the thin and brittle plastic breaks around onslaughts connector ports
Comment by Hellscream9999
Oct 13, 2015
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Even better, no QC issues on mine. The wing connectors are assembled CORRECTLY!
Unfortunately mine are not
grimdragon2001 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Mine came today as well.
So, uh, remember that email that stated that the QC issues Nacelle had with his wing connectors would also be on this one?
Well...
The wing connectors on mine... are assembled... CORRECTLY!
mine is correct too, though one wing is noticably droopy. sad news is, i was just transforming nacelle for a review and one of his wings broke off at the connetor,trying to fix it now
Kinda makes you glad you payed so much for them, and reassures me that I was right to not go in on thunder mayhem; imagine what would happen if the thin and brittle plastic breaks around onslaughts connector ports
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I get it. It's easy to complain about QC issues that occur with expensive Fun Pub figures, but really, our money isn't going into a higher degree of production quality control. It's going into premium decos produced at a much smaller, limited run. Yes, it's unfortunate when QC issues arise, but these things happen. It's the same as when they happen on a mass retail figure, only that those are less expensive for us to purchase given their large production run. If these weren't as expensive as they are would there still be as much grief about the Fun Pub toy QC issues compared to that about mass retail toy QC issues? Masterpieces are likewise expensive collector pieces with limited production runs and those have suffered some QC issues as well, yet there isn't nearly as much vitriol given towards them when MP toy QC issues arise as there are when Fun Pub toy QC issues arise.
As I said, this one is not a universally flawed figure, and none of the other TFSS 3.0 toys had any widespread QC issues to speak of besides Nacelle (whose issues were quite minor in the grand scheme of things). Why not commend something when it's done right rather than expect something to always be done wrong? That doesn't sound healthy to be honest.
Comment by Sabrblade
Oct 13, 2015
Whatever dude. Mine's got no misassemblies and no looseness that I can determine, and frankly with how many uses this mold has had looseness should be expected. That mine is one of the good ones should bring hope to people rather than deter it since it means that any QC issues with this one are not universal.Hellscream9999 wrote:Kinda makes you glad you payed so much for them, and reassures me that I was right to not go in on thunder mayhem; imagine what would happen if the thin and brittle plastic breaks around onslaughts connector ports
I get it. It's easy to complain about QC issues that occur with expensive Fun Pub figures, but really, our money isn't going into a higher degree of production quality control. It's going into premium decos produced at a much smaller, limited run. Yes, it's unfortunate when QC issues arise, but these things happen. It's the same as when they happen on a mass retail figure, only that those are less expensive for us to purchase given their large production run. If these weren't as expensive as they are would there still be as much grief about the Fun Pub toy QC issues compared to that about mass retail toy QC issues? Masterpieces are likewise expensive collector pieces with limited production runs and those have suffered some QC issues as well, yet there isn't nearly as much vitriol given towards them when MP toy QC issues arise as there are when Fun Pub toy QC issues arise.
As I said, this one is not a universally flawed figure, and none of the other TFSS 3.0 toys had any widespread QC issues to speak of besides Nacelle (whose issues were quite minor in the grand scheme of things). Why not commend something when it's done right rather than expect something to always be done wrong? That doesn't sound healthy to be honest.
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Because it's what tends to happen most often, or at least, it does to me...
Comment by Hellscream9999
Oct 13, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:As I said, this one is not a universally flawed figure, and none of the other TFSS 3.0 toys had any widespread QC issues to speak of besides Nacelle (whose issues were quite minor in the grand scheme of things). Why not commend something when it's done right rather than expect something to always be done wrong? That doesn't sound healthy to be honest.
Because it's what tends to happen most often, or at least, it does to me...
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Comment by Wolfman Jake
Oct 14, 2015
Unlike Sabr, I've apparently got the reversed wing-connector pieces on my figure. The wings still line up correctly in both vehicle and bot mode, though. It just takes a bit of extra force to fold them at the one join when transforming the figure. The left-hand wing, though, is a little floppy, but only along the X (left to right) axis, if that makes sense to anyone.
What I'm disappointed about, though, is the white helmet, which the prototypes and mock-ups had painted as dark gray. I understand that the original toy has those white outer parts around the head of the figure, and this white helmet is supposed to mimic that, but I think the dark gray from the mock-ups looked a lot better. The sculpted detail in the helmet makes the unpainted white plastic look "unfinished." Also, the torso is orange. Bright orange. It's not even reddish orange. The original G2 toy was NOT orange, but a kind of reddish-pink or salmon color. Check out the comparisons between the original G2 toy and the TFSS 3.0 version in the Seibertron galleries. Can someone from the TFCC post a picture of the original G2 sample they used to make the color choices for the new TFSS 3.0 version? Maybe they're seeing something I'm missing?
Otherwise, I love having this figure in my collection. I need to put together a G2 Classics shelf at some point (and pick up TFCC G2 Ramjet).
What I'm disappointed about, though, is the white helmet, which the prototypes and mock-ups had painted as dark gray. I understand that the original toy has those white outer parts around the head of the figure, and this white helmet is supposed to mimic that, but I think the dark gray from the mock-ups looked a lot better. The sculpted detail in the helmet makes the unpainted white plastic look "unfinished." Also, the torso is orange. Bright orange. It's not even reddish orange. The original G2 toy was NOT orange, but a kind of reddish-pink or salmon color. Check out the comparisons between the original G2 toy and the TFSS 3.0 version in the Seibertron galleries. Can someone from the TFCC post a picture of the original G2 sample they used to make the color choices for the new TFSS 3.0 version? Maybe they're seeing something I'm missing?
Otherwise, I love having this figure in my collection. I need to put together a G2 Classics shelf at some point (and pick up TFCC G2 Ramjet).
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Let's face it, we like to complain
I'd also like to point out that parts breaking off does not necessarily reflect the quality of the plastic used. In the case of Nacelle and G2 Starscream, the wing connectors being attached backwards is a major thing, as the holes on each end are not the same size and/or shape as are the peg and rivet they attach on (the rivet is the larger of the two I believe). As such, mismatched attachment points will end in breakage, like putting a square block in a round hole.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Oct 15, 2015
Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:As I said, this one is not a universally flawed figure, and none of the other TFSS 3.0 toys had any widespread QC issues to speak of besides Nacelle (whose issues were quite minor in the grand scheme of things). Why not commend something when it's done right rather than expect something to always be done wrong? That doesn't sound healthy to be honest.
Because it's what tends to happen most often, or at least, it does to me...
Let's face it, we like to complain
I'd also like to point out that parts breaking off does not necessarily reflect the quality of the plastic used. In the case of Nacelle and G2 Starscream, the wing connectors being attached backwards is a major thing, as the holes on each end are not the same size and/or shape as are the peg and rivet they attach on (the rivet is the larger of the two I believe). As such, mismatched attachment points will end in breakage, like putting a square block in a round hole.
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Late last night before the crash, I had posted some images for comparisons. The jetpack thing that makes the sounds on the original toy photographs as a more orange color than pink color, but the torso of G2 Starscream is definitely a pinkish color. I put together the following images for comparisons last night. If anyone who has both figures can confirm that I got these colors pretty close, I'd appreciate it just so we have some others confirming it. I'm OK with the orangish color that was used, but would have prefered it to have been closer to the original. However, it still looks good.
Lighting, camera settings, color adjustments in your monitor, saturation with the camera settings and in post processing (as well as your monitor), and a few other things all wreak havoc on capturing the colors of the original G2 Starscream. It's just obnoxious 90s colors that are often hard to replicate, whereas the orange used on Club G2 Starscream is much easier to photograph. If you look through the original G2 Starscream's gallery, you'll see that the colors are inconsistent throughout, though they appear much more consistent in the Club G2 Starscream's gallery.
Comment by Seibertron
Oct 15, 2015
Wolfman Jake wrote:Also, the torso is orange. Bright orange. It's not even reddish orange. The original G2 toy was NOT orange, but a kind of reddish-pink or salmon color. Check out the comparisons between the original G2 toy and the TFSS 3.0 version in the Seibertron galleries. Can someone from the TFCC post a picture of the original G2 sample they used to make the color choices for the new TFSS 3.0 version? Maybe they're seeing something I'm missing?
Late last night before the crash, I had posted some images for comparisons. The jetpack thing that makes the sounds on the original toy photographs as a more orange color than pink color, but the torso of G2 Starscream is definitely a pinkish color. I put together the following images for comparisons last night. If anyone who has both figures can confirm that I got these colors pretty close, I'd appreciate it just so we have some others confirming it. I'm OK with the orangish color that was used, but would have prefered it to have been closer to the original. However, it still looks good.
Lighting, camera settings, color adjustments in your monitor, saturation with the camera settings and in post processing (as well as your monitor), and a few other things all wreak havoc on capturing the colors of the original G2 Starscream. It's just obnoxious 90s colors that are often hard to replicate, whereas the orange used on Club G2 Starscream is much easier to photograph. If you look through the original G2 Starscream's gallery, you'll see that the colors are inconsistent throughout, though they appear much more consistent in the Club G2 Starscream's gallery.
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I don't actually have any of these, I was just referring to most things in my life
But these certainly seem to be an assembly error - not that I'd put it past the new plastic, hasbro's been using, to snap; ultra magnus certainly seemed capable of it
Comment by Hellscream9999
Oct 15, 2015
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:As I said, this one is not a universally flawed figure, and none of the other TFSS 3.0 toys had any widespread QC issues to speak of besides Nacelle (whose issues were quite minor in the grand scheme of things). Why not commend something when it's done right rather than expect something to always be done wrong? That doesn't sound healthy to be honest.
Because it's what tends to happen most often, or at least, it does to me...
Let's face it, we like to complain
I don't actually have any of these, I was just referring to most things in my life
But these certainly seem to be an assembly error - not that I'd put it past the new plastic, hasbro's been using, to snap; ultra magnus certainly seemed capable of it
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Yep, and I was most grateful for your efforts.
When everything was restored after the crash, I took the opportunity to edit my post, which was the last one preserved by the Tuesday back-up, to reflect the more recent information that had come to light in the thread, but had been subsequently lost.
Comment by Wolfman Jake
Oct 15, 2015
Seibertron wrote:Late last night before the crash, I had posted some images for comparisons.
Yep, and I was most grateful for your efforts.
When everything was restored after the crash, I took the opportunity to edit my post, which was the last one preserved by the Tuesday back-up, to reflect the more recent information that had come to light in the thread, but had been subsequently lost.
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Oct 16, 2015
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Comment by Rated X
Oct 19, 2015
Glad to report that the wing connections on my G2 starscream were assembled the proper way. My nacelle connecters were on backwards and the right wing snapped. Funpub was nice enough to send me a replacement part and my friend fixed it for me. You can grind down the back end of the connectors to match the proper side they should have been facing. Once you take care of that the little plastic peg no longer gets stressed more and more after each transformation. Also you can carefully crack the glue on the legs and switch nacelles tailfins the proper way. (If you dont mind the tampo being upside down) My friend did that and now nacelle is good to go.
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Comment by LOST Cybertronian
Oct 19, 2015
Upon further inspection, my Starscream is completely fubar'd.
Not only are the wing hinges installed wrong, one of the hinges are installed too far forward which wont let the wing come flush with the body at all.
Which caused a massive stress mark in the shaft where the pin goes in
Not only are the wing hinges installed wrong, one of the hinges are installed too far forward which wont let the wing come flush with the body at all.
Which caused a massive stress mark in the shaft where the pin goes in
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Oh wow that sucks. Sorry to hear that.
Comment by DedicatedGhostArt
Oct 19, 2015
LOST Cybertronian wrote:Upon further inspection, my Starscream is completely fubar'd.
Not only are the wing hinges installed wrong, one of the hinges are installed too far forward which wont let the wing come flush with the body at all.
Which caused a massive stress mark in the shaft where the pin goes in
Oh wow that sucks. Sorry to hear that.
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Comment by ScottyP
Oct 20, 2015
That's something I'd try to get exchanged. Not due to the hinges since they said those won't be grounds for one, but because of the assembly problem. Looks like it's gonna give over time, that's a good bit of stress visible on it.LOST Cybertronian wrote:Not only are the wing hinges installed wrong, one of the hinges are installed too far forward which wont let the wing come flush with the body at all.
Which caused a massive stress mark in the shaft where the pin goes in
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Fired off an email last night and waiting to hear back
Comment by LOST Cybertronian
Oct 20, 2015
ScottyP wrote:That's something I'd try to get exchanged. Not due to the hinges since they said those won't be grounds for one, but because of the assembly problem. Looks like it's gonna give over time, that's a good bit of stress visible on it.LOST Cybertronian wrote:Not only are the wing hinges installed wrong, one of the hinges are installed too far forward which wont let the wing come flush with the body at all.
Which caused a massive stress mark in the shaft where the pin goes in
Fired off an email last night and waiting to hear back
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2 emails now with no response
Comment by LOST Cybertronian
Oct 26, 2015
LOST Cybertronian wrote:ScottyP wrote:That's something I'd try to get exchanged. Not due to the hinges since they said those won't be grounds for one, but because of the assembly problem. Looks like it's gonna give over time, that's a good bit of stress visible on it.LOST Cybertronian wrote:Not only are the wing hinges installed wrong, one of the hinges are installed too far forward which wont let the wing come flush with the body at all.
Which caused a massive stress mark in the shaft where the pin goes in
Fired off an email last night and waiting to hear back
2 emails now with no response
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Comment by TF_JW
Oct 27, 2015
If you're not getting a response via email, please do try calling if that's an option for you. Angie or Karen should be able to help you straight away and remedy whatever issues they can.
817-448-9863
(9:00 am - 4:30 pm Central time Weekdays)
817-448-9863
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