Video Review Combiner Wars Computron
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Comment by Kurona
Aug 12, 2016
"Scrounge which in the g1 cartoons was sorta paired with the technobots"
Hmmm.
Hmmm.
And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation
Hmmm.
Hmmm.
And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation
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Sorry about that...i misspoke. I didn't mean the cartoon, i meant comic. Accidents happen i guess but i do apologize for the confusion.
As for the elbows....the articulation is still there, just not doubled up. Rotating the arms in Computron mode to have the double elbow sort of thing, makes Strafe have his wings facing forward, i prefer to keep them on the back. Because of that, i rotated the legs around on Afterburner to have it be symmetrical. As for the legs, i didn't slip them around on Computron on the G1 toy either. It's just a personal aesthetic look that i like. You can obviously display your figure how you wish.
Comment by optibotimus
Aug 12, 2016
Kurona wrote:"Scrounge which in the g1 cartoons was sorta paired with the technobots"
Hmmm.
Hmmm.
And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation
Sorry about that...i misspoke. I didn't mean the cartoon, i meant comic. Accidents happen i guess but i do apologize for the confusion.
As for the elbows....the articulation is still there, just not doubled up. Rotating the arms in Computron mode to have the double elbow sort of thing, makes Strafe have his wings facing forward, i prefer to keep them on the back. Because of that, i rotated the legs around on Afterburner to have it be symmetrical. As for the legs, i didn't slip them around on Computron on the G1 toy either. It's just a personal aesthetic look that i like. You can obviously display your figure how you wish.
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Comment by Vic Zanzibar
Aug 12, 2016
With the exception of Nosecone, I like the Hasbro versions of all the individual figures better than the Takara versions. I do not like that Hasbro's uses the same head as Superion, however, the amount of stuff I like in the Hasbro version exceeds the amount I dislike, especially considering the inflated price I'd have to pay for the Takara version that I only really find to be superior in one limb and the combiner head which simply isn't enough to justify the higher price for me.
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You could always go for PC-11 + Hasbro Computron in that case
If, that is, third party stuff doesn't bother you. I was gonna go that route until I realised I overall preferred Takara and didn't care much for Scrounge.
Comment by Kurona
Aug 12, 2016
Vic Zanzibar wrote:With the exception of Nosecone, I like the Hasbro versions of all the individual figures better than the Takara versions. I do not like that Hasbro's uses the same head as Superion, however, the amount of stuff I like in the Hasbro version exceeds the amount I dislike, especially considering the inflated price I'd have to pay for the Takara version that I only really find to be superior in one limb and the combiner head which simply isn't enough to justify the higher price for me.
You could always go for PC-11 + Hasbro Computron in that case
If, that is, third party stuff doesn't bother you. I was gonna go that route until I realised I overall preferred Takara and didn't care much for Scrounge.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Aug 12, 2016
He wasn't paired with the Technobots in the comics either. He died several issues before the Technobots first appeared.optibotimus wrote:Kurona wrote:"Scrounge which in the g1 cartoons was sorta paired with the technobots"
Hmmm.
Hmmm.
And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation
Sorry about that...i misspoke. I didn't mean the cartoon, i meant comic. Accidents happen i guess but i do apologize for the confusion.
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Well...he is now
lol
Comment by optibotimus
Aug 12, 2016
Sabrblade wrote:He wasn't paired with the Technobots in the comics either. He died several issues before the Technobots first appeared.optibotimus wrote:Kurona wrote:"Scrounge which in the g1 cartoons was sorta paired with the technobots"
Hmmm.
Hmmm.
And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation
Sorry about that...i misspoke. I didn't mean the cartoon, i meant comic. Accidents happen i guess but i do apologize for the confusion.
Well...he is now
lol
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I appreciate the suggestion, but $35 plus shipping is more than I care to pay for a head for a figure, which is what I'd be paying for since I don't care about the breastplate or gun. (It's not G1 accuracy that bothers me; it's just having two combiners with the same head.)
Comment by Vic Zanzibar
Aug 12, 2016
Kurona wrote:Vic Zanzibar wrote:With the exception of Nosecone, I like the Hasbro versions of all the individual figures better than the Takara versions. I do not like that Hasbro's uses the same head as Superion, however, the amount of stuff I like in the Hasbro version exceeds the amount I dislike, especially considering the inflated price I'd have to pay for the Takara version that I only really find to be superior in one limb and the combiner head which simply isn't enough to justify the higher price for me.
You could always go for PC-11 + Hasbro Computron in that case
If, that is, third party stuff doesn't bother you. I was gonna go that route until I realised I overall preferred Takara and didn't care much for Scrounge.
I appreciate the suggestion, but $35 plus shipping is more than I care to pay for a head for a figure, which is what I'd be paying for since I don't care about the breastplate or gun. (It's not G1 accuracy that bothers me; it's just having two combiners with the same head.)
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Comment by Sabrblade
Aug 12, 2016
And it is glorious!optibotimus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He wasn't paired with the Technobots in the comics either. He died several issues before the Technobots first appeared.optibotimus wrote:Kurona wrote:"Scrounge which in the g1 cartoons was sorta paired with the technobots"
Hmmm.
Hmmm.
And somehow while he's stopped doing the "G1 accurate" flipped round legs, he's flipped round the arms to block their elbow articulation
Sorry about that...i misspoke. I didn't mean the cartoon, i meant comic. Accidents happen i guess but i do apologize for the confusion.
Well...he is now
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Comment by Stuartmaximus
Aug 12, 2016
http://tfylp.com/announcements-from-cyb ... bro-panel/
What the...? Beast Combiners? i thought there wasn't to be any Beast ones in this line? + isn't this line nearing it's end now
What the...? Beast Combiners? i thought there wasn't to be any Beast ones in this line? + isn't this line nearing it's end now
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Comment by RiddlerJ
Aug 12, 2016
Strafe and Nosecone don't have guns? 
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Nosecone has the removable drill piece, and Strafe's gun can't be removed: those are considered the "weapons" for the figures.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Aug 12, 2016
RiddlerJ wrote:Strafe and Nosecone don't have guns?
Nosecone has the removable drill piece, and Strafe's gun can't be removed: those are considered the "weapons" for the figures.
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Hasbro said they would revisit combiners again soon, and it is presumed that we will get the beasts then
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Aug 12, 2016
Stuartmaximus wrote:http://tfylp.com/announcements-from-cybertron-con-hasbro-panel/
What the...? Beast Combiners? i thought there wasn't to be any Beast ones in this line? + isn't this line nearing it's end now
Hasbro said they would revisit combiners again soon, and it is presumed that we will get the beasts then
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Comment by Bounti76
Aug 13, 2016
You know.....I got my Computron from A3U yesterday, and while he makes a GREAT display piece, and I'm actually pretty impressed with all the Technobots save Lightspeed, the many uses of these molds and the general crappiness of the Brawl mold are really showing.
With Nosecone in his usual position as Computron's leg, the rotating pieces of the CW tank mold, and the fact that it's legs don't peg together worth a damn, make it completely impossible to use the ankle tilts in the new feet without the entire lower leg/feet coming apart. They are TIGHT ankle/feet tilts. Same with Lightspeed. Prowl is the only use of that mold that pegs together and stays together really well as either an arm or a leg. Plus, though it's not a huge concern, Scattershot's torso mode is a little wiggly and not as tight as Superion's, which makes posing him a really iffy thing if it's not thought out before hand, and the feet aren't posed before inserting them into the leg bots. It just doesn't seem as sturdy as previous uses of that torso and limbs. Random last though, though I'm appreciating Hasbro Nosecone more and more (he does look fairly G1 toy accurate, save the maroon bits and brown chest), he's crap as a limb, as the Brawl/tank mold is absolutely the weakest of the entire line.
So, though Computron was my favorite G1 combiner, the CW version of him will not be posed or played with much. Too bad. I hope the Takara version (yes, I'm double dipping) will hold up better.
With Nosecone in his usual position as Computron's leg, the rotating pieces of the CW tank mold, and the fact that it's legs don't peg together worth a damn, make it completely impossible to use the ankle tilts in the new feet without the entire lower leg/feet coming apart. They are TIGHT ankle/feet tilts. Same with Lightspeed. Prowl is the only use of that mold that pegs together and stays together really well as either an arm or a leg. Plus, though it's not a huge concern, Scattershot's torso mode is a little wiggly and not as tight as Superion's, which makes posing him a really iffy thing if it's not thought out before hand, and the feet aren't posed before inserting them into the leg bots. It just doesn't seem as sturdy as previous uses of that torso and limbs. Random last though, though I'm appreciating Hasbro Nosecone more and more (he does look fairly G1 toy accurate, save the maroon bits and brown chest), he's crap as a limb, as the Brawl/tank mold is absolutely the weakest of the entire line.
So, though Computron was my favorite G1 combiner, the CW version of him will not be posed or played with much. Too bad. I hope the Takara version (yes, I'm double dipping) will hold up better.
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Comment by Sjeng
Aug 13, 2016
I fully agree. I think the reuse of the Brawl mold is terrible. Nosecone, to me, does not look like a subterrainian drilling machine at all. He's a backwards tank with a tiny drill... I think he'd look much better if you simply put the drill on the turret pointing towards the front of the tank, makes more sense to me, even though he's not ever gonna drill a tunnel big enough for him to actually drive through.
Takara's version has that covered a lot better. A shame Takara doesn't have the feet/hands.
I'm wondering though, now that Hasbro has feet and hand molds, why won't they make feet/hand packs in different colours for all the other Combiners? No more expensive 3rd party "perfect effect" packs nessesary.
(€40,- for a few plastic fists and feet? wow, no way)
Takara's version has that covered a lot better. A shame Takara doesn't have the feet/hands.
I'm wondering though, now that Hasbro has feet and hand molds, why won't they make feet/hand packs in different colours for all the other Combiners? No more expensive 3rd party "perfect effect" packs nessesary.
(€40,- for a few plastic fists and feet? wow, no way)
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Comment by Kurona
Aug 13, 2016
Honestly, I think you could argue that Hasbro's Nosecone is the worst figure of the entire line (ironic, considering you could argue UW Nosecone is the best of the entire line).
He's the Brawl mold for starters, which is obviously the worst mold; so it's between him, Brawl, Botcon Ramhorn and Liokaiser Drillhorn and "Ironbison". However, all of those have headsculpts that fit the characters wonderfully, the Liokaiser and Botcon ones have beautiful paint jobs, and the use of the mold as a tank is faaaaaar more convincing and effective than using it as a drill... thing. So nosecone ends up with the worst mold in the line, the worst alt mode use of the mold, a recoloured head which doesn't even begin to fit him, looks like a block of cheese, and apparently has some QC issues. Poor guy.
He's the Brawl mold for starters, which is obviously the worst mold; so it's between him, Brawl, Botcon Ramhorn and Liokaiser Drillhorn and "Ironbison". However, all of those have headsculpts that fit the characters wonderfully, the Liokaiser and Botcon ones have beautiful paint jobs, and the use of the mold as a tank is faaaaaar more convincing and effective than using it as a drill... thing. So nosecone ends up with the worst mold in the line, the worst alt mode use of the mold, a recoloured head which doesn't even begin to fit him, looks like a block of cheese, and apparently has some QC issues. Poor guy.
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The big question is how soon is "soon"??!?
Being that I've been borderline yawning with TR, this is really exciting news!
Watched that Comp review. The combined figure doesn't look awful, still don't like the individual bot modes. That brighter, kinda regular red looks so bizarre on Scattershot... Especially in spaceship mode. Afterburner/breaker looks best imo, but that's not saying much.
"Lightsteed"?? Should've just named him LightWise.
Don't really see how you'd take this set and the UW one and mish-mash them together...
UW is hands-down the better-looking set all the way around.
Not tempted at all to get this Hasbro release.
I'll be saving up some $$$ for these new beast combiners!!
Comment by Sowndwave76
Aug 13, 2016
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:http://tfylp.com/announcements-from-cybertron-con-hasbro-panel/
What the...? Beast Combiners? i thought there wasn't to be any Beast ones in this line? + isn't this line nearing it's end now
Hasbro said they would revisit combiners again soon, and it is presumed that we will get the beasts then
The big question is how soon is "soon"??!?
Being that I've been borderline yawning with TR, this is really exciting news!
Watched that Comp review. The combined figure doesn't look awful, still don't like the individual bot modes. That brighter, kinda regular red looks so bizarre on Scattershot... Especially in spaceship mode. Afterburner/breaker looks best imo, but that's not saying much.
"Lightsteed"?? Should've just named him LightWise.
Don't really see how you'd take this set and the UW one and mish-mash them together...
UW is hands-down the better-looking set all the way around.
Not tempted at all to get this Hasbro release.
I'll be saving up some $$$ for these new beast combiners!!
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I'd presume that if this is true, most likely the next Generations line. I doubt they'd want to give away details of a line other than the one immediately after the current.
Comment by Kurona
Aug 13, 2016
Sowndwave76 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:http://tfylp.com/announcements-from-cybertron-con-hasbro-panel/
What the...? Beast Combiners? i thought there wasn't to be any Beast ones in this line? + isn't this line nearing it's end now
Hasbro said they would revisit combiners again soon, and it is presumed that we will get the beasts then
The big question is how soon is "soon"??!?
I'd presume that if this is true, most likely the next Generations line. I doubt they'd want to give away details of a line other than the one immediately after the current.
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When does the LK line start??
It would be nice if the new Generations line immediately followed that.
Comment by Sowndwave76
Aug 13, 2016
Kurona wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:http://tfylp.com/announcements-from-cybertron-con-hasbro-panel/
What the...? Beast Combiners? i thought there wasn't to be any Beast ones in this line? + isn't this line nearing it's end now
Hasbro said they would revisit combiners again soon, and it is presumed that we will get the beasts then
The big question is how soon is "soon"??!?
I'd presume that if this is true, most likely the next Generations line. I doubt they'd want to give away details of a line other than the one immediately after the current.
When does the LK line start??
It would be nice if the new Generations line immediately followed that.
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WJ88 knows more about why it's possible than me, but it seems there's no reason why Generations, -insert cartoon toyline- and -insert movie toyline- could not exist at the same time.
Comment by Kurona
Aug 13, 2016
Sowndwave76 wrote:Kurona wrote:Sowndwave76 wrote:D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:http://tfylp.com/announcements-from-cybertron-con-hasbro-panel/
What the...? Beast Combiners? i thought there wasn't to be any Beast ones in this line? + isn't this line nearing it's end now
Hasbro said they would revisit combiners again soon, and it is presumed that we will get the beasts then
The big question is how soon is "soon"??!?
I'd presume that if this is true, most likely the next Generations line. I doubt they'd want to give away details of a line other than the one immediately after the current.
When does the LK line start??
It would be nice if the new Generations line immediately followed that.
WJ88 knows more about why it's possible than me, but it seems there's no reason why Generations, -insert cartoon toyline- and -insert movie toyline- could not exist at the same time.
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Comment by RAR
Aug 13, 2016
Hasbro did have a representative state that they wouldn't stop other lines just for the Movie toyline like they used to. they plan to carry on with wht ever prime wars stuff there is at the same time -if anything suffers as a result it will be RID which I'm guessing will have reached the end of it's natural life span by then anyway.
The might dial back a little on Rescue bots too if Last Knight has it's own little-kid sub brands if it doesn't then that will probably carry on in the same erratic manner too.
I just hope they don't make the HUGE ERROR of dumping all the Generations style Movie toys on TRU and then only distributing terrible toys to other retailers.
But character wise the only thing that looks promising so far would be some car alt modes and the new Bulk-hound vehicle mode. Unless Optimus gets another new body at the end of the Movie that they are keeping quiet about.
Megatron i'll judge depending on what he turns into. Barricade has some toy potential especially if they can make something less finicky than the DOTM mould.
But anyway here isn't the proper place to talk about this so I'll shut up now.
The might dial back a little on Rescue bots too if Last Knight has it's own little-kid sub brands if it doesn't then that will probably carry on in the same erratic manner too.
I just hope they don't make the HUGE ERROR of dumping all the Generations style Movie toys on TRU and then only distributing terrible toys to other retailers.
But character wise the only thing that looks promising so far would be some car alt modes and the new Bulk-hound vehicle mode. Unless Optimus gets another new body at the end of the Movie that they are keeping quiet about.
Megatron i'll judge depending on what he turns into. Barricade has some toy potential especially if they can make something less finicky than the DOTM mould.
But anyway here isn't the proper place to talk about this so I'll shut up now.
