
Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Jul 27, 2014 at 12:19am CDT
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Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by K2vox
Jul 27, 2014
Are these supposed to be like, pity-treats for the masses because they don't want to take the time to engineer ones that will actually transform? I'm so confused. On a different note: BEST ACTION MASTERS EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Comment by BERSEKAEL
Jul 27, 2014
transformers with no transformation... lame... looking good, but dissapointing 

Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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This.
Comment by RhA
Jul 27, 2014
K2vox wrote:Are these supposed to be like, pity-treats for the masses because they don't want to take the time to engineer ones that will actually transform? I'm so confused. On a different note: BEST ACTION MASTERS EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This.
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by Ultra Markus
Jul 27, 2014
so what are these 500 a piece?
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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have to be cheaper than Metroplex... Metroplex has triple transformation.
Comment by BERSEKAEL
Jul 27, 2014
Ultra Markus wrote:so what are these 500 a piece?
have to be cheaper than Metroplex... Metroplex has triple transformation.

Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by MGrotusque
Jul 27, 2014
Best Scorponok EVER.........now only if it transformed. I don't understand why you wouldn't engineer that. This thing is so close to the G1 figure and it's the simplest of transformations.
They're also asking WAAAY too much money for this thing.
They're also asking WAAAY too much money for this thing.
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
Jul 27, 2014
The real question is, do they transform? If yes, my wallet gonna hurt. If not, but why?
EDIT:
Actually read the thread this time. So,

EDIT:
Actually read the thread this time. So,
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 27, 2014
The downside to making a BlackZarak version of this is that, though this Scorponok is big enough to fight Fort Max, this BlackZarak is now too big to fight God Ginrai.
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by Poyguimogul
Jul 27, 2014
Ginrai was wearing Apex Armor and riding Grand Maximus when he fought Zarak so...
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 27, 2014
I did say God Ginrai, did I not?Poyguimogul wrote:Ginrai was wearing Apex Armor
Not in every fight between God Ginrai and BlackZarak. Certainly not in the final episode battle, which was arguably their most famous fight.Poyguimogul wrote:and riding Grand Maximus
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by DMSL
Jul 27, 2014
You call it a Transformer, but it doesn't transform.
That is just completely pointless.
That is just completely pointless.
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by Blackstreak
Jul 27, 2014
The first question that comes to my mind isn't about Black Zarak. But rather, does this Scorponok transform? Well...
Does it?
But I can see that question has already been answered so I won't be wasting my money on either of these statues.
Does it?

But I can see that question has already been answered so I won't be wasting my money on either of these statues.
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by Evil Eye
Jul 27, 2014
To be fair, it's not only enormous but also highly articulated and very "anime" proportioned. Getting that thing to transform whilst also remaining fully articulated and keeping those sweet, sweet proportions would be nigh-on impossible (at least without driving the price up super high). Also there might be some licensing thing that stops them making a transforming version.
Regardless, that thing is beautiful. I want one!
Regardless, that thing is beautiful. I want one!
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by MGrotusque
Jul 27, 2014
Impossible? All you have to do to transform Scorponok is extend the bug legs out. Put his arms up over his head, fold his legs back on themselves at the knee and then plug in the stinger. Done.
There is actually only one thing that "transforms" on G1 Scorp and that's the lower kegs and the stinger. It's soooo easy and simple that it could be easily pulled off with this "super articulated" figure.
I agree that it's a totally super awesome looking Scorponok though. I desperately want it but won't pay that price for it and I would always harbor resentment towards it because it doesn't transform when it so easily could be possible if following the G1 design. Which they slavishly followed with this action figure.
There is actually only one thing that "transforms" on G1 Scorp and that's the lower kegs and the stinger. It's soooo easy and simple that it could be easily pulled off with this "super articulated" figure.
I agree that it's a totally super awesome looking Scorponok though. I desperately want it but won't pay that price for it and I would always harbor resentment towards it because it doesn't transform when it so easily could be possible if following the G1 design. Which they slavishly followed with this action figure.
Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by xyl360
Jul 27, 2014
I was seriously considering getting this Scorponok back when I first saw the prototype/test shot, but now that there are at least 2 transforming 3rd party options upcoming, I'll be getting one or both of them instead. Sorry Takara, I love you, but this isn't quite good enough. Maybe if the model were more extreme I could excuse the lack of alt modes, but it isn't. They mainly just stripped off the bits necessary for its alt modes (bug legs and stinger/tail) and called it a day.
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Exaaaaactly...'nuff said!
Comment by Nemesis Destron
Jul 27, 2014
xyl360 wrote:I was seriously considering getting this Scorponok back when I first saw the prototype/test shot, but now that there are at least 2 transforming 3rd party options upcoming, I'll be getting one or both of them instead. Sorry Takara, I love you, but this isn't quite good enough. Maybe if the model were more extreme I could excuse the lack of alt modes, but it isn't. They mainly just stripped off the bits necessary for its alt modes (bug legs and stinger/tail) and called it a day.
Exaaaaactly...'nuff said!

Re: Wonder Festival Shows off Sentinel Gigantic Action Scorponok and Black Zarak
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Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jul 27, 2014
You guys do realize it's not TakaraTomy making this right? Licensees don't necessarily have the know-how of making a proper transforming toy.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jul 27, 2014
Delta Mgnus might have been referring to it being able to also transform into its City Mode in addition to the much less complex Scorpion Mode.MGrotusque wrote:Impossible? All you have to do to transform Scorponok is extend the bug legs out. Put his arms up over his head, fold his legs back on themselves at the knee and then plug in the stinger. Done.
There is actually only one thing that "transforms" on G1 Scorp and that's the lower kegs and the stinger. It's soooo easy and simple that it could be easily pulled off with this "super articulated" figure.
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Yeah, that. One of the big problems with getting it to transform, I think, is the extremely nice, stylized animesque proportions- almost all the components are tapered, exaggerated or deformed in such a way that it looks awesome (like Dreamwave except not awful) but that it would make folding the thing up rather difficult- the thing wouldn't fit flush together without lots of folding panels, ugly hinges and obvious breaks in the sculpt (or worse, partsforming). It's intended to be a really nice, faithful depiction of his robot mode as it appeared in the cartoon/anime, rather than an update on the original toy. A bit like the Trasformers Revoltechs and the like.
Also, AFAIK, Sentinel doesn't really do transforming figures.
Comment by Evil Eye
Jul 27, 2014
Sabrblade wrote:Delta Mgnus might have been referring to it being able to also transform into its City Mode in addition to the much less complex Scorpion Mode.MGrotusque wrote:Impossible? All you have to do to transform Scorponok is extend the bug legs out. Put his arms up over his head, fold his legs back on themselves at the knee and then plug in the stinger. Done.
There is actually only one thing that "transforms" on G1 Scorp and that's the lower kegs and the stinger. It's soooo easy and simple that it could be easily pulled off with this "super articulated" figure.
Yeah, that. One of the big problems with getting it to transform, I think, is the extremely nice, stylized animesque proportions- almost all the components are tapered, exaggerated or deformed in such a way that it looks awesome (like Dreamwave except not awful) but that it would make folding the thing up rather difficult- the thing wouldn't fit flush together without lots of folding panels, ugly hinges and obvious breaks in the sculpt (or worse, partsforming). It's intended to be a really nice, faithful depiction of his robot mode as it appeared in the cartoon/anime, rather than an update on the original toy. A bit like the Trasformers Revoltechs and the like.
Also, AFAIK, Sentinel doesn't really do transforming figures.
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Comment by Emerje
Jul 27, 2014
The problem is with Takara Tomy, they aren't about to let another company make an actual Transformer figure, even if they are nice enough to properly buy a license. Sure, they can make all the transforming pens, ball caps, and candy toys they want, but no making figures better than they can. Closest we've come is that transforming exo suit by CM's Company, but they went under.
I'd love to have this Scorponok, but US$500 is way to much for me.
Emerje
I'd love to have this Scorponok, but US$500 is way to much for me.
Emerje