X-Transbots Toys X-7 Ironhide and Ratchet

They look nice, but what's up with Ironhide crying like that?

I don't have money for Transformers that don't Transform

This looks a lot like that headmaster prototype Jizzi was working on.

Also, I have no interest in these since they have next to no detail and articulation.

Well, those are terrible.

I've never understood the obsession with "cartoon-accurate" figures, ESPECIALLY from the G1 line. The toys came first. The cartoons were only created as 22-minute advertisements for the toys. If there was a difference between the G1 toy and the cartoon representation, it was the cartoon that was inaccurate, not the toy. In this case (Ratchet and Ironhide) I suspect the animators chose to depict Ratchet and Ironhide like that because it was easier than trying to make them look like the toys.

Regardless, these toys look like crap, unless they're just little eraser toys or free toys that come with gum.

I love to see cartoon accurate versions of the characters. The stories, voices, and actions of the characters is what made them memorable and come to life. While the old brick G1 toys are wonderful and nostalgic, I know a LOT of fans are really clamoring for cartoon accurate.

These look really good so far except for the black lines on the faces. They're too heavy and distracting. Maybe by making them lighter, more subtle gray? Hmmmm. The heads might be a little squatty, too. But, a pretty good stab.

Yeah, thinking about it more... I think ALLL the 3rd party companies need to get it through their heads that the head sculpt is EVERYTHING. If they don't get it right, then they might as well not put out the figure.

It's so crazy that we have all the 4th party companies supplying new heads for all the botched 3rd party jobs. Magnus, Rodimus, Cliffjumper, etc.

I'd say post early as you're designing it and get some feedback. Then go back to tweak based on fan input, if possible.

GuyIncognito wrote:I've never understood the obsession with "cartoon-accurate" figures, ESPECIALLY from the G1 line. The toys came first. The cartoons were only created as 22-minute advertisements for the toys. If there was a difference between the G1 toy and the cartoon representation, it was the cartoon that was inaccurate, not the toy.

This is true, but many fans were introduced to the cartoon product first and the toy second.

I don't think people are saying these are "more correct" than the originals, just that they are 'toon accurate and they want that version (maybe instead of the original or along with the original).

gothsaurus wrote:
I hope they post some alt-mode pics soon...

I'm pretty sure they don't transform. Unless their alt mode is "robot lying down".

They probably intended to show what they were aiming at for their future realeases, becase the pictures shown are from two old, but very well done papercrafts (paper models) of these two characters. These are the links to those models:

Ironhide
http://digilander.libero.it/papermodels/images/papermodels/ironhide/ironhide.htm

Ratchet
http://digilander.libero.it/papermodels/images/papermodels/ratchet/ratchet.htm

The same guy also did awsome models of Soundwave, Frenzy (or Rumble depending on your point of view XD) and Ravage.

Counterpunch wrote:Well, those are terrible.

Ayup.