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Sabrblade wrote:

Midnight_Fox wrote:

Joker'sRequiem wrote: I'd love to see Beast Wars get it's first inductee(s),

Beast War HAS its first inductee: Dinobot got in last year(the first year of the HoF) over the more worthy(IMO, but I never liked Beast Wars) Soundwave.

He meant person-wise not character-wise.

Yeah, like Sabrblade said, I meant non-characters. I'd like to see David Kaye and Scott McNeil especially get the nod. Garry Chalk has also always been a favorite Primal/Prime of mine. Character wise I love that Dinobot got in, since he was always my favorite character aside from Primal and Megatron, both of whom I'd love to see get in next year. Yeeeesssss.

I'm not defending or attacking the choice of nominees for this year, but consider this...

They have to ride this horse as long as possible.

Do you think next year that Michael Bay and crew will even talk about Transformers any more? Do you think they'll come out east for a TF convention?

No. They won't.

They're in, while they can get them in.

Next year when the convention goes somewhere east, or some where lame, or somewhere east AND lame, they'll bring in Welker and Furman or whomever to draw up attention to the convention.

They're striking while the iron is hot. They're not scorning your favorite "Name Name".

Counterpunch wrote:I'm not defending or attacking the choice of nominees for this year, but consider this...

They have to ride this horse as long as possible.

Do you think next year that Michael Bay and crew will even talk about Transformers any more? Do you think they'll come out east for a TF convention?

No. They won't.

They're in, while they can get them in.

Next year when the convention goes somewhere east, or some where lame, or somewhere east AND lame, they'll bring in Welker and Furman or whomever to draw up attention to the convention.

They're striking while the iron is hot. They're not scorning your favorite "Name Name".

So correct. This was a money decision IMO..

Im hoping the convention goes back to orlando..

Pete Sinclair from Botcon dropped us a note about general public tickets to the Hall Of Fame event.

05/26/2011 - A limited number of Transformers: Hall of Fame tickets are
now available to the General Public! If you are interested in attending
this exciting evening you can purchase tickets at the Pasadena
Convention Center portable box office on Saturday, June 4th, from
9am-5pm (while supplies last). Tickets are $45 per peson.

As previously announced, all attendees will receive a goody bag with
movie snacks and a 3D Cinemask which you'll need for a SNEAK PEAK of the
new Transformers: Dark of the Moon movie! Trust us - you do not want to
miss this event! The goody bag will also include a Hall of Fame souvenir
ticket, movie poster and some other great items from Hasbro partners!
Dress for the evening is business casual (no t-shirts, please).

For more info

http://www.botcon.com/BotCon2011/

Counterpunch wrote:I'm not defending or attacking the choice of nominees for this year, but consider this...

They have to ride this horse as long as possible.

Do you think next year that Michael Bay and crew will even talk about Transformers any more? Do you think they'll come out east for a TF convention?

No. They won't.

They're in, while they can get them in.

Next year when the convention goes somewhere east, or some where lame, or somewhere east AND lame, they'll bring in Welker and Furman or whomever to draw up attention to the convention.

They're striking while the iron is hot. They're not scorning your favorite "Name Name".

But doesn't that prove why their wrong choices for a Hall of Fame. Everyone, even the fans of the movies seem to imply that within a few years, these movies won't have any kind of lasting impact on the franchise.

I guess it's my fault. When I think of, say, a Baseball Hall of Fame or the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they usually induct people whove had a true impact, not just the latest fad. (I might be wrong, what do I know). I was hoping this would be the same thing.

If, ten years from now, these movies were still fondly remembered by fans, I would see no reason for Bay and co to not be inducted. Right now, it just presents this HOF as just a dopey merchandising ploy

RiddlerJ wrote:If, ten years from now, these movies were still fondly remembered by fans, I would see no reason for Bay and co to not be inducted. Right now, it just presents this HOF as just a dopey merchandising ploy

Isn't it? Is the HoF going to change who your favorite Transformers character? Your favorite Transformers celebrity? No, it's probably not.

RiddlerJ wrote:But doesn't that prove why their wrong choices for a Hall of Fame. Everyone, even the fans of the movies seem to imply that within a few years, these movies won't have any kind of lasting impact on the franchise.

No, people are NOT saying the movies won't be remembered. They're saying Bay himself probably won't be able/interested in coming to conventions 2, 5, 10 or so years after the movies. Huge difference.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:I'm not defending or attacking the choice of nominees for this year, but consider this...

They have to ride this horse as long as possible.

Do you think next year that Michael Bay and crew will even talk about Transformers any more? Do you think they'll come out east for a TF convention?

No. They won't.

They're in, while they can get them in.

Next year when the convention goes somewhere east, or some where lame, or somewhere east AND lame, they'll bring in Welker and Furman or whomever to draw up attention to the convention.

They're striking while the iron is hot. They're not scorning your favorite "Name Name".

But doesn't that prove why their wrong choices for a Hall of Fame. Everyone, even the fans of the movies seem to imply that within a few years, these movies won't have any kind of lasting impact on the franchise.

On your first point there, I have no interest in proving anyone wrong on this particular matter.

The Hall of Fame is a joke and a half. Anyone taking it seriously as a matter to get worked up over needs to step back a bit from the issue. Within 5 years of this, anyone and everyone who has had an impact on the franchise will be in and we'll call it a day and lose interest as (no disrespect) second-string people start getting in.

On your second point... The movies have now been going on as a continuity for as long as Beast Era characters and toys. The movies have at least another year or more of active time. They will be around and have as much if not more impact than our beloved Beasties. I'm sure people will take issue with that measurement of the film franchise, but there it is.

There's no way Hasbro and Paramount are going to stop at three movies. Michael Bay might be done, but we'll be seeing these things at theaters until Optimus Prime is the next Pluto Nash.

Bayverse is here to stay for a long, long time.

Sabrblade wrote:

It Is Him wrote:There's no way Hasbro and Paramount are going to stop at three movies. Michael Bay might be done, but we'll be seeing these things at theaters until Optimus Prime is the next Pluto Nash.

Bayverse is here to stay for a long, long time.

Except that Hasbro has stated that the Aligned continuity is going to be their main project for the next decade or so, and that they're putting all their efforts and focus on expanding that story above all else.

And how often has Hasbro said one thing, and then done another? Money talks.

It Is Him wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

It Is Him wrote:There's no way Hasbro and Paramount are going to stop at three movies. Michael Bay might be done, but we'll be seeing these things at theaters until Optimus Prime is the next Pluto Nash.

Bayverse is here to stay for a long, long time.

Except that Hasbro has stated that the Aligned continuity is going to be their main project for the next decade or so, and that they're putting all their efforts and focus on expanding that story above all else.

And how often has Hasbro said one thing, and then done another? Money talks.

I was just going to say, "Hasbro says a LOT of things..."

That's great, but it doesn't prove Hasbro isn't willing to commit significant resources to a 4th movie.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:I got one of the most complete Global Armada collections all at once.

You're still a horrible person for this. I was about a month a way from having the cash for Unicron of Light.

Man, I'd really love to go to the HoF event, since gen. public tix are available, but $45 is a steep for an hour of ceremony, movie preview (comes out in 3.5 more weeks from then) and a goodie bag. Maybe for $20, but not $45. $25 TOPS if the goodie bag had really great things inside.

Dunno where that description of events page went --but wonder if this includes anything else?

As you all know Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg were the humans inducted into the Transformers Hall of Fame at this year's BotCon. Take a look at their induction videos embedded below featuring various Hasbro executives and movie cast members commenting on their contributions to the franchise.

Wow that was a lota posts to read, haha.

Yea, I guess it so happens that there a lot of people who knew from the start the HOF was just for kicks, sorta in the vein of Transformers being sort of a light-hearted fandom.
I guess there were also those who were hoping it would be a little more serious; perhaps something to raise their own feeling of belonging when the person inducted is actually a TF veteran of the industry, someone who they themselves really appreciate and, in a way, want to feel like they're part of some solid fandom that works on a logical sense, rather than a largely money-based one (of which I am convinced the HOF is).
I didn't really care about the HOF myself, so I guess I can't really complain as there is nothing I have beef with. I believe, like someone else also mentioned, that the movies really did so well due to marketing, and in effect aided Hasbro marketing. Also, when I say marketing, I'm not just talking about lots of trailer air time, but the visual content of them... explosions, lots of CG, lots of eye candy basically.

I'm just glad I have all the oldschool TF stuff (a lot that I haven't even fully explored yet), and don't have to rely on just the movieverse. There is one sad loss though, If not for some of your posts, I wouldn't know which other people are really great at TF work, and now I have some help in deciding what next cool piece of TF material to get into... the HOF could have done that, if it were more based on quality of work rather than quantity of sales.

You guys gota relax more. Sometimes it's pretty clear from the start that someone feels Bay sucks, okay, whatever, who cares. Discuss with the people who comment positively on him then, and leave others to discuss why they were so terrible. You're not going to change peoples' opinions from forum posts (least it aint likely, since the movie is there for all to see and evaluate themselves).

Congratulations! They tottaly deserve it and it was so interesing to see how they contribuet to the Movie series and the franchise.This was just so much Awesome!

Every time i come on here i find more and more difficult to believe you're all adults, honestly all of you bitching about "ruined childhoods" are pathetic little ingrates.

Since when has hasbro been aiming it's toy line to grown ass F@CKING 30 YEAR OLDS!? Grow the F#CK UP, the franchise is all about getting new fans hooked on the toys, those new fans are KIDS, CHILDREN, ACTUAL CHILDREN, not childish men who think they know whats going top sell a **** GLOBAL FRANCHISE to kids all over the god damned planet! Did you study marketing at a college level? Honestly get a life, if you like it more power to you, if you don't at the very least voice your opinion in an intelligently formed context like a grown adult.

Little kids go on this site, and I'm pretty sure having them see all this pansies whining about every single **** toy isn't helping the franchise out one bit

I thought these vids were only to be shown at the hall of fame. It makes me a tad upset that I find them on the internets just a few days after attending the event myself. But on the other hand, I really wanna see the Erector vid again, so I'm torn

First off, I would like to congratulate Michael Bay and Steven Spielburg on their induction and for their contributions to the hobby I love.

I can't resist. I must give my rant. If I go too far I ask Burn to shut me up:
Okay, whether Bay and Spielburg "raped your childhood" or not, they still made Transformers, as a BRAND, not just as a movie continuity, a ****load of money. Now children (the ones who really buy the stuff) love Optimus Prime and Bumblebee because of all this exposure to the public. And thanks to this, all of the adult collectors who love their GeeWun classics get to keep enjoying their hobby. It's a magical thing.
Maybe I'm just some young whipper-snapper who's been "raped and brainwashed" by Michael Bay's corruption that has ruined Transformers FOREVER, I don't know. But I still love G1, Beast Wars, RID, Unicron Trilogy, Animated, and TF Prime just the same. If Bay's work is what it takes to keep all of that up, so be it. (The movie universe is still my favorite. I don't care how much you hate me for it.)
Besides, who is forcing anyone to buy these toys, buy movie tickets, or even watch the slagging trailers? It's not wiping out G1. It's not ruining anything. G1 still exists, doesn't it? Has anyone even realised we're arguing over a TOY brand?

If you're going to read 1 paragraph out of this, please read the final one.

or better yet, read this:
(R***ed my childhood)
If you guys are so determined to ensure this is all kept kid-friendly, then maybe stop using the R word, it isn't helping your cause.

congrats to Spielberg. No congrats to Bay. Bay wouldn't have been involved with the TF movies if Spielberg didn't pick him. I didn't like in Bay's video how they said there's no one else capable of doing what he did. No replacement. BS -there are a lot of directors out there