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Mindmaster wrote:Just throwing this in here to help stimulate discussion.

Rated X wrote: At least TFCC Depthcharge, Rampage, and Air Razor utilized molds that turned into Cybertronian Jets.

Rated X wrote:You know what the biggest problem with TFCC Tarantulas is ?

It's doesn't transform into a spider or into something even remotely Cybertronian. It turns into a American dirt bike. That worked for Wreck Gar, not for Tarantulas. At least TFCC Depthcharge, Rampage, and Air Razor utilized molds that turned into Cybertronian Jets. Even DOTM Quickstrike (Darksteel) used a concept corvette that was futuristic looking and only made it to prototype stage for the movie. But a dirt bike ? Cmon now...

Midnight_Fox wrote:

Rated X wrote: At least TFCC Depthcharge, Rampage, and Air Razor utilized molds that turned into Cybertronian Jets.

TFCC Depthcharge turns into an Earth vehicle, a Sukhoi Su-47.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Rated X wrote:You know what the biggest problem with TFCC Tarantulas is ?

It's doesn't transform into a spider or into something even remotely Cybertronian. It turns into a American dirt bike. That worked for Wreck Gar, not for Tarantulas. At least TFCC Depthcharge, Rampage, and Air Razor utilized molds that turned into Cybertronian Jets. Even DOTM Quickstrike (Darksteel) used a concept corvette that was futuristic looking and only made it to prototype stage for the movie. But a dirt bike ? Cmon now...

According to TFW, Pete said in the panel this is Supposed to be Dawn of the Futures Past Tarantulas

G1COLLECTOR wrote:To tell you the truth , The Transformers Movie Toys *(ALL JUST SUCK)!

I mean they keep making them smaller and they all look bad in both modes. I will be buying much more 3rd party and Masterpiece bots this year.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Rated X wrote:You know what the biggest problem with TFCC Tarantulas is ?

It's doesn't transform into a spider or into something even remotely Cybertronian. It turns into a American dirt bike. That worked for Wreck Gar, not for Tarantulas. At least TFCC Depthcharge, Rampage, and Air Razor utilized molds that turned into Cybertronian Jets. Even DOTM Quickstrike (Darksteel) used a concept corvette that was futuristic looking and only made it to prototype stage for the movie. But a dirt bike ? Cmon now...

According to TFW, Pete said in the panel this is Supposed to be Dawn of the Futures Past Tarantulas

It Is Him wrote:

G1COLLECTOR wrote:To tell you the truth , The Transformers Movie Toys *(ALL JUST SUCK)!

I mean they keep making them smaller and they all look bad in both modes. I will be buying much more 3rd party and Masterpiece bots this year.

I agree. The 86 movie toys were terrible.

see what I did there

It Is Him wrote:Dear Hasbro,
If we sacrifice Shane McCarthy, will you bring back Aaron Archer?
Thanks,
It Is Him

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

It Is Him wrote:Dear Hasbro,
If we sacrifice Shane McCarthy, will you bring back Aaron Archer?
Thanks,
It Is Him

Like we get him not to write anymore sacrifice, or like wicker man sacrifice?

El Duque wrote:Wow, all in all I'm very disappointed by almost everything they revealed.

I don't collect Legends unless scale dictates the characters should be a Legends Class, so I have no interest in that Nemesis Prime, not to mention I'm kinda done with Nemesis Prime in general.

Legends Cliffjumer - Already have a Deluxe with third-party upgrades

Legends Thundercracker - again the scale issue, plus I just got iGear's new Raptor version, which is stupidly amazing.

Legends Windcharger - This one blows my mind. I already have a really good Scout Class Windcharger so that alone means I don't need this guy, but why the Hell not announce a Tailgate redeco of the previously released Scout Windcharger. We're actually going backwards here.

Legends Powerglide - This guy looks good, but I already have the Deluxe sized on from Xtransbots and it's pretty damn good. iGear also has plans to release a Powerglide in the Mini Warrrior line. Still, I might get this guy.

Legends Bombshell - Looks pretty good, but it's not going to replace my FansProject version.

Deluxe Arcee - Looks good, but really late to the party. I currently have iGear's Delicate Warrior, and really like her. Not to mention Perfect Effect has a really good Arcee, and MMC is apparently going to release a whole series of Fembots that look really nice. I may get her just because this will be Hasbro's first attempt at real G1-ish Arcee.

Deluce Chomia - Looks interesting, even though she appears to be an extensive remold of the PRID Arcee mold. Will probably get her.

Voyager Brainstorm - Look really good, but again late to the party. I already have two version of this character, FansProject and Toyworld. I'll probably get him, but if he does't surpass the ToyWorld version once I have him in-hand he'll get sold. Though I do hold out hope, after all, the Hasbro Springer replaced my FansProject Defender.

Voyager Optimus Prime - No, Hell no. Looks terrible, looks worse that the Classics Voyager that came out years ago. Neither of which hold a candle to ToyWorld Orion.

Leader Megatron - Pass. Looks okay at best, but won't scale with my Classics and not as good as ToyWorld Hegemon.

Leader Armada Megatron - This actually works, but I don't need a Generations Armada Megatron. Great for Armada fans though.

Subscription Service 3.0 - Not one of those do I want, not signing up this year.

AOE Stuff - No longer collecting movie universe stuff. In fact selling everything I've got.

Now I'm sure many of you will read this and say, "Oh, he's just one of those third-party superiority complex people." Not the case, I want Hasbro to make things I want. I want to pay Hasbro prices, rather than third-party price. But they have got to start being more proactive. Everything they showed was reactive. Case in point: They teased a Superion Generations combiner. Sorry, but I already have one from TFC, and despite it's flaws will likely be better than their version. A smarter move would have been to have teased a Generations Defensor. It would damage TFC's sales and pre-orders.

However, I do concede that these are great reveals for those not collecting third-party. For me personally though, boring.

ausbot wrote:Shane McCarthy is not that bad, the Mars Attack crossover was fun.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

ausbot wrote:Shane McCarthy is not that bad, the Mars Attack crossover was fun.

The truth is, he's really NOT that bad. But Drift sucks, and AHM was a kinda lame. If he can deliver, more power to him. But so far, his track record is...lacking.

gavinfuzzy wrote:Dammit the clear optimus was the only reason i wanted the set and since it's not... pass. >:oP

gavinfuzzy wrote:This looks like clear plastic...



What happened here.



Dammit the clear optimus was the only reason i wanted the set and since it's not... pass. >:oP

leakin' lubricant wrote:

El Duque wrote:Wow, all in all I'm very disappointed by almost everything they revealed.

I don't collect Legends unless scale dictates the characters should be a Legends Class, so I have no interest in that Nemesis Prime, not to mention I'm kinda done with Nemesis Prime in general.

Legends Cliffjumer - Already have a Deluxe with third-party upgrades

Legends Thundercracker - again the scale issue, plus I just got iGear's new Raptor version, which is stupidly amazing.

Legends Windcharger - This one blows my mind. I already have a really good Scout Class Windcharger so that alone means I don't need this guy, but why the Hell not announce a Tailgate redeco of the previously released Scout Windcharger. We're actually going backwards here.

Legends Powerglide - This guy looks good, but I already have the Deluxe sized on from Xtransbots and it's pretty damn good. iGear also has plans to release a Powerglide in the Mini Warrrior line. Still, I might get this guy.

Legends Bombshell - Looks pretty good, but it's not going to replace my FansProject version.

Deluxe Arcee - Looks good, but really late to the party. I currently have iGear's Delicate Warrior, and really like her. Not to mention Perfect Effect has a really good Arcee, and MMC is apparently going to release a whole series of Fembots that look really nice. I may get her just because this will be Hasbro's first attempt at real G1-ish Arcee.

Deluce Chomia - Looks interesting, even though she appears to be an extensive remold of the PRID Arcee mold. Will probably get her.

Voyager Brainstorm - Look really good, but again late to the party. I already have two version of this character, FansProject and Toyworld. I'll probably get him, but if he does't surpass the ToyWorld version once I have him in-hand he'll get sold. Though I do hold out hope, after all, the Hasbro Springer replaced my FansProject Defender.

Voyager Optimus Prime - No, Hell no. Looks terrible, looks worse that the Classics Voyager that came out years ago. Neither of which hold a candle to ToyWorld Orion.

Leader Megatron - Pass. Looks okay at best, but won't scale with my Classics and not as good as ToyWorld Hegemon.

Leader Armada Megatron - This actually works, but I don't need a Generations Armada Megatron. Great for Armada fans though.

Subscription Service 3.0 - Not one of those do I want, not signing up this year.

AOE Stuff - No longer collecting movie universe stuff. In fact selling everything I've got.

Now I'm sure many of you will read this and say, "Oh, he's just one of those third-party superiority complex people." Not the case, I want Hasbro to make things I want. I want to pay Hasbro prices, rather than third-party price. But they have got to start being more proactive. Everything they showed was reactive. Case in point: They teased a Superion Generations combiner. Sorry, but I already have one from TFC, and despite it's flaws will likely be better than their version. A smarter move would have been to have teased a Generations Defensor. It would damage TFC's sales and pre-orders.

However, I do concede that these are great reveals for those not collecting third-party. For me personally though, boring.

I'm with you mate, every one of those Generations figures has a highly superior 3rd party version out or coming out, Hasbro had the chance to do something special here and blow it's 3rd party rivals out of the water, instead the took the quick and easy route, not good enough Hasbro.

Mindmaster wrote:We got a small taste at what's to come with the on-floor gallery of several of the new Generations toys revealed today, but are you ready for a whole serving? That's right, it's official images time!

First dish of the meal are the Generations Legends figures, whose ranks were reinforced with the arrival of Nemesis Prime (obligatory baddie redeco of the previous Optimus Prime mold) with Spinister(redeco of Bumblebee's partner Blazemaster); Cliffjumper (more than obligatory redeco of the previous Bumblebee mold) with Suppressor (redeco of Optimus Prime's partner Roller); and currently parnter-less Thundercracker, Windcharger, Powerglide, and Bombshell (that's right, he's Bombshell now, no longer Hardshell!)





























The next part of the meal encompasses the newly revealed Generations Deluxes, the long-overdue Arcee and Chromia!









Also available on the menu are two entrees of your choosing: Brainstorm (with a functioning Headmaster gimmick!) and Optimus Prime (loosely based on his appearance in the IDW comics)









And finally, to round off the meal, we have double trouble Megatrons! The first Megatron is slavishly Generation One, while the second version of Megatron takes his ques from his Armada counterpart (complete with his classic serrated horns!)