3. Slide for Universal exclusive Evac, both Legion and Deluxe class figures
RazorSlash92 wrote:3. Slide for Universal exclusive Evac, both Legion and Deluxe class figures
Evac is exclusive to the ride giftshop? Man, I was looking forward to picking 'im up, too. Really hope the ride opens at Universal Orlando at some point.
KenjaminLinus wrote:I don't think anyone is claiming that 3rd parties are the "heroic protectors of transformers from our childhood". THAT is retarded. They absolutely care to give us the toys we dream of, because those ARE the toys we will pay for. People wanted a classics Devastator done right, and they are willing to pay $600 for him! Anyone who is bringing morality into the 3rd party argument is delusional. It is purely business. Maybe it's morally questionable, but I hold no loyalty to any company, nor will I ever. They are after one thing, and I am after one thing. Plain and simple.
KenjaminLinus wrote:Yeah when you put it that way I definitely hear you. I know that for me personally, it's just about getting awesome representations of the characters I love. Maybe I'll take a piece of that pie. I know it was definitely easy to get caught up in the Hasbro bashing with all of the things fans had to deal with this year. But yeah I definitely agree that 3rd parties should not be viewed as saviors. It's like you said, they just set cross hairs on the collector's market, so their job is easier as far as pleasing their intended demographic.
KenjaminLinus wrote:I don't think anyone is claiming that 3rd parties are the "heroic protectors of transformers from our childhood". THAT is retarded.
KenjaminLinus wrote:They absolutely care to give us the toys we dream of, because those ARE the toys we will pay for. People wanted a classics Devastator done right, and they are willing to pay $600 for him!
KenjaminLinus wrote:Anyone who is bringing morality into the 3rd party argument is delusional. It is purely business. Maybe it's morally questionable, but I hold no loyalty to any company, nor will I ever. They are after one thing, and I am after one thing. Plain and simple.
GetRightRobot wrote:I wasn't trying to single anyone out. It's like this; I spend A LOT of money on 3rd party stuff (Herc is awesome), I'm just quiet about it. I think a dose of humble pie is over due. Hasbro markets to a different demographic than 3rd party's do and well, lets face it, it's their product. I just get sick of the Hasbro bashing. I want my after-market pieces like most collectors, but I want it to be a little less... in your face Hasbro.
Although what I said may not apply to you, there are plenty of people who view 3rd party companies as the Caped Crusader AND Knight in Shining Army.... and the Peace Corps and Jesus... ok, maybe not that severe, but you get my drift right?
KenjaminLinus wrote:It's like you said, they just set cross hairs on the collector's market, so their job is easier as far as pleasing their intended demographic.
GetRightRobot wrote:It has been a tough year for "Official" fans. Some serious shortcomings. But there is promise on the horizon. Who knows, we might finally get a Bumble Bee. I kid.
Rated X wrote:Where did all this "moral" crap come from ???
Rated X wrote:Im the one who started the 3rd party discussion on this thread and I never mentioned any such thing. All I wanted to clarify is that 3rd parties are making Transformers right these days. And yeah, for a price. I thought I made it clear that todays Hasbro is not the same people from 1984-1988. They might hold the paperwork and copyrights, but they are not the creators. Therefore I dont respect them in the same fashion as I do the originators of the characters. These characters are 25 years old. Dont confuse creators with investors.
Rated X wrote:This whole "intellectual property" arguement is a load of horse s**t. If the artist who created Rodimus Prime in 1986 isnt complaining about Protector, then who really has a right to complain ??? Did Hercules ruin any chances of Hasbro ever making profit from a G1 Devastator ??? F**K YEAH !!! But Hasbro has been making classics themed figures since 2006. So for six years Hasbro has dropped the ball and people get mad when the other team picks it up. You guys should be praising TCC for doing what Hasbro couldnt do.
GetRightRobot wrote:Ok. Well to all that (I stopped reading like a quarter way dude, honestly) I'll just say, in my best mocking tone "Some but groups like TFC and FansProject really do have the fans best interests at heart." No seriously they do, really, they're not even companies, they're groups.
GetRightRobot wrote:You are.
GetRightRobot wrote:Did the Jesus thing bother You? I'm sorry. I meant no offense. I'm a Christian and I could not think of more extreme example of... ok see above.
GetRightRobot wrote:What did I say? Was it the retard thing?
GetRightRobot wrote:I am sorry if I offended anyone. It's just real fashionable these days to take stabs at a toy company that makes toys for children and not collectors.
LOST Cybertronian wrote:DevastaTTor wrote:2. (This one was a cringe-worthy moment) Q: Third party toy makers are producing some amazing toys. Any plans to collaborate with one to produce what could be the most incredible Transformer ever?
A:
GetRightRobot wrote:@ Rated X
It's great that you know where you stand. I may not agree 100% with you, but I appreciate you defending your position so vehemently. Wanna get kicked out of the Fun Pub roundtable at Botcon together?
Rated X wrote:GetRightRobot wrote:@ Rated X
It's great that you know where you stand. I may not agree 100% with you, but I appreciate you defending your position so vehemently. Wanna get kicked out of the Fun Pub roundtable at Botcon together?
Lets do this !
Kibble wrote:Unfortunately they'd just respond with FoC Bruticus as an answer...but then you'd have to follow up with:
'I said at least MATCH what they're doing...'
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