LordScourge wrote:For those of you watching Prime do you feel that Smokesreen is what he claims to be?I personally feel he's hiding something because when the red energon popped up Starscream was the only Decepticon after it.
Archanubis wrote:LordScourge wrote:For those of you watching Prime do you feel that Smokesreen is what he claims to be?I personally feel he's hiding something because when the red energon popped up Starscream was the only Decepticon after it.
Personally, I doubt it. While they certainly used the angle in his debut episode (even mentioning it), they already went the "mole" route back in Season 1 (very early even). I think Smokescreen is what he says he is: a trained, though inexperienced, new recruit to team Prime.
Besides, Smokescreen has always been an Autobot name, and Hasbro's not likely to change that. However, had he been named Mirage...
As for Starscream being the only Decepticon after the red energon - well, even Soundwave is allowed to have an off day.
Starscream is a lone wolf now. Of course he'd come alone since he's the only one on his side. He detected the Red Energon first, so it'd make sense for him to go by himself. The other Cons were probably busy, just like in other episodes where they don't bother to do anything.LordScourge wrote:I personally feel he's hiding something because when the red energon popped up Starscream was the only Decepticon after it.
Ew, TF Wikia.LordScourge wrote:Well there is actually an incarnation of Smokescreen that was a decpticon and guess who his partner was? Any guesses? It was Dreadwing.
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Smokescreen_(G2)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Well, after seeing the clip from Friday's new episode, Megatron clearly has no idea who Smokescreen is.
"WHO IN THE PITS OF KAON IS THAT?!!!"
G1 Smoketreader wrote:I'd be furious if he was an actual Decepticon but agree that it's low on the possibilities list. He was shown 'snooping' through the Autobots relics chamber but seemed innocent enough about it, tho he IS the diversionary Tactician so who knows what kind of mind games he might be playing with us.
He hasn't said something about trying to get to A3, or anyone/thing else, so that, as a story driver, has not been enforced yet. Since he hasn't done it it two episodes I'd treat it as not part of his character development, and therefore not part of the Prime Universe at all.
Maybe he IS Alpha Trion hiding in a Body that the real Smokescreen sacrificed to hide A3 in.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
budmaloney wrote:Smokescreen will have a connection with Arcee methinks.
So, what, he's Swindle?LordScourge wrote:Personally I will scream if he and Dreadwing have an encounter and Dreadwing instantly pulls a gun on him screaming "You foul loathsome piece of scrap I thought I did away with you on Cybertron!" then when the Autobots ask what is going on Smokescreen acts like Dreadwing is crazy and Dreadwing shouts "He can play dumb all he wants there's no denying he's the war criminal that played both sides creating skirmishes between enemy's and allies alike and all to get his hands on relics for profit!"
From where/who? What's the source on this? No official outlet has made any mention of The Fallen showing up. At most, The Fallen was mentioned in jest by Bulkhead in one episode, but that was a note of sarcasm from him.LordScourge wrote:Though he might be "The Fallen" I heard he'll be making an appearance and it would be a good twist especially with all newbie comments made toward him and apparent fascination and knowledge of the relics.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:So, what, he's Swindle?LordScourge wrote:Personally I will scream if he and Dreadwing have an encounter and Dreadwing instantly pulls a gun on him screaming "You foul loathsome piece of scrap I thought I did away with you on Cybertron!" then when the Autobots ask what is going on Smokescreen acts like Dreadwing is crazy and Dreadwing shouts "He can play dumb all he wants there's no denying he's the war criminal that played both sides creating skirmishes between enemy's and allies alike and all to get his hands on relics for profit!"
And, why would he have been after relics during the war if the relics didn't come into importance in the whole story until after the war was over, even after the Great Exodus?
Doesn't help that the latest episode hints at Dreadwing having not been on Cybertron during the final chapter of the war, since he doesn't seem to know about Megatron having been the one to destroy Cybertron. So he couldn't have been on Cybertron at the time to have such a confrontation with "Smokescreen".From where/who? What's the source on this? No official outlet has made any mention of The Fallen showing up. At most, The Fallen was mentioned in jest by Bulkhead in one episode, but that was a note of sarcasm from him.LordScourge wrote:Though he might be "The Fallen" I heard he'll be making an appearance and it would be a good twist especially with all newbie comments made toward him and apparent fascination and knowledge of the relics.
LordScourge wrote: As for the Fallen some one else on here mentioned he might appear and seeing as how Alpha Trion is showing up it's not that far of a stretch to think that The Fallen might appear.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Even though I truly want Smokescreen to be a genuine Autobot, here's another idea.
Since Beast hunters is supposed to be season 3 or a later story, what if Smokescreen IS a part of a villainous plot, but not one by the Decepticons, rather, one by the Star Seekers?
Suppose the season 2 finale involves him somehow being used with the Omega Lock and keys to bring the Star Seekers into the show. Like if Cybertron get revived but in their image, like a supposed beast-ified Cybertron that starts up a sort of "enemies hunting each other" story arc on Cybertron?
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Even though I truly want Smokescreen to be a genuine Autobot, here's another idea.
Since Beast hunters is supposed to be season 3 or a later story, what if Smokescreen IS a part of a villainous plot, but not one by the Decepticons, rather, one by the Star Seekers?
Suppose the season 2 finale involves him somehow being used with the Omega Lock and keys to bring the Star Seekers into the show. Like if Cybertron get revived but in their image, like a supposed beast-ified Cybertron that starts up a sort of "enemies hunting each other" story arc on Cybertron?
Interesting concept
Although, I think Smokescreen's just going to sacrifice himself to revive Cybertron. As how "it doesn't end well for the Autobots."
But then they find a way out of the predicament. Go looking for more Autobots? Dinobots? I don't know.
Aside from, well, robbing the show of the best thing that's ever happened to the Autobots in it. Smokescreen's addition enhanced the status quo. Take him out and we're back to the same core protagonist team we've always had since the beginning.datguy86 wrote:Smokescreen wants to be an hero, right? Him dying makes lots of sense and doesn't cost the show the status quo too heavily.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Aside from, well, robbing the show of the best thing that's ever happened to the Autobots in it. Smokescreen's addition enhanced the status quo. Take him out and we're back to the same core protagonist team we've always had since the beginning.datguy86 wrote:Smokescreen wants to be an hero, right? Him dying makes lots of sense and doesn't cost the show the status quo too heavily.
datguy86 wrote: Given the viewer doesn't see Shock die; only buried in rubble as has happened to any number of characters of the course of the series.
datguy86 wrote:Also, the Dinobots and Shockwave have some history, yes?
datguy86 wrote: It just feels like the writers shoehorned him in - either to take a command lead (ugh) when someone else dies or die a hero (meh).
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
PrymeStriker wrote:datguy86 wrote: Given the viewer doesn't see Shock die; only buried in rubble as has happened to any number of characters of the course of the series.
The last we saw of him he was walking through the space bridge, shot in the eye, and then it combusted on him. He was buried in rubble, but that wasn't the cliffhanger.
PrymeStriker wrote:datguy86 wrote:Also, the Dinobots and Shockwave have some history, yes?
Yes.datguy86 wrote: It just feels like the writers shoehorned him in - either to take a command lead (ugh) when someone else dies or die a hero (meh).
Or to add a new character to the fold of Autobots. Are you convinced that they show writers put new characters in for them to die in the long-run? It's a change, and I'm pretty sure you and everyone would've been bored with 65 episodes of the same 5 Autobots + Wheeljack's occasional visit.
datguy86 wrote:You'd be surprised how often this does happen. Hell, on the Decepticon side Makeshift and Skyquake have already succumbed to it by virtue of being "villain of the week". It's easier to accept the loss of a new character than to kill off an existing character. It's one of the lessons learned from the original animated Transformers movie.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
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