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by **SkyWarpt** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:53 pm

Careful on Transformer bidding wars. It seems there is some shill bidding going on.

In case you are unaware of what shill bidding is, it is when a buyer bids against you with another account. Most of the time it is one with 0 feedback, but sometimes it is a "buddy". Bidder names on Ebay are protected (they look like this: m***v), but if you look at bid history you can click on them to see user bidding history. Most of the time they will have 85% or more bid experience with the seller account they are bidding on. Shill bidding is fraud and a felony.

In this case I retracted my bid and immediately after the "shill" account retracted theirs:

Mine:
Action / Explanation Date of Bid and Retraction
f***e( 796) Retracted: US $160.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-08-12 07:58:24 PDT
Retracted: Jun-08-12 18:59:37 PDT

Shill account:
m***v( 0 ) Retracted: US $155.00
Explanation: Entered wrong amount Bid: Jun-08-12 17:50:47 PDT
Retracted: Jun-08-12 19:02:20 PDT

by **SkyWarpt** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:56 pm

You can also see bid retractions in the bidding history page, that may give a clue as to whether the seller is scamming people. If there are more than one check times bid and retracted…and use your own judgement.

by **SkyWarpt** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:40 pm

seller has been reported to ebay

by **SkyWarpt** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:37 am

Update… the seller sent me a message this morning at 3:14am….at 3:22am the "shill account" bid up the next bidder to right before their max bid #-o

by **Swindle01** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:57 am

sadly tons of chinese sellers on ebay do this all the time

theres 1 chinese person on ebay with 3 different accounts. If i remember right i think 1 of them is called D0tM or something like that while his others was riflescopezero.

You can tell its the same seller because whenever i bid on something almost straight away a bid would go higher than me...no matter what i was bidding on i would always be outbid by the same bidders time and time again

by **SkyWarpt** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:03 am

This guy is from CA. I am not releasing his name until the investigation is done.

The bids on this one don't go higher, they just go high enough to max out your bid without winning. Now the "real bidder" that didn't bid high enough against me has his bid maxxed out…but he is still winning.

by **SkyWarpt** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:46 pm

Looks like other potential real buyers backed out too

News Credits: 8 · by **LiKwid** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:15 pm

I've been noticing this alot on Transformers prime stuff and on some select beast wars items Ive been after for months now. When I sense this is the case I just move on and make note of the seller and just avoid them. Im willing to bet good money that this happens alot more than gets reported..

by **SkyWarpt** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:25 pm

I moved on and went Buy it Now

by **WolfDawg** » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:44 am

Sorry TC, but this is really nothing new.

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