Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Kicker wasn't a product of the cartoon. He was a product the series' conception itself. Like how Sparkplug Witwicky was in both the G1 cartoon and the Marvel comics. Kicker was made to be in both mediums, and at least the comics version wasn't annoying and mental like his cartoon self.chaosmage42 wrote:not worth it-problem is those comics are not finished and the energon story was only barely getting started -it was mainly just continuing armada -which i think would have been better if it ended right there because they had to bring in kicker and the other crap from the tv series
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
TurboMMaster wrote:Animated was complelty anty-original.
Yeah, TurboMMaster, while a lot of the character designs and voices were direct homages to things that came before, what about all the other things that Animated did on its own?Rodimus Prime wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Animated was complelty anty-original.
Explain, please.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
TurboMMaster wrote:I have found Armade and Energon Comic adaptations very interesting and funny to read. Like almost always comics are much better than animated series. However, the main point is: A lot of potential in UT was wasted by cartoon creators laziness. So many great idea jossed...
I have some strange sentiment to Armada/Energon, mostly because it was the last time, when Transformers series supposed to be different from the previous one. Latear all is pretty much the same. Cybertron pretty much brings back things we saw in G1, idea of Prime's beign underdog was jossed already in RotF, and Animated was complelty anty-original. WFC was redesigned G1, and Prime give us few character redesigned from scrap, dark atmosphere, Starscream that didn't die and Megatron outliving Optimus, but still, they could give us more new elements.
That's not what he meant. He meant that WFC is essentially a new G1-esque thing, even though it itself isn't G1.ZeroWolf wrote:Also WfC isn't G1....Its Prime continuity, despite what we want.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Oh goody, another who's been deceived by aesthetics.chaosmage42 wrote:dude the war for cybertron and fall of cybertron are not connected dispite what has been said for several reasons. First of all the back story doesn't match at all the way the Prime's prime and the game prime become prime dare significantly different. though they do have a few things in common -its not the same. flash back images and other elements are very different also how does any of the ark flying into a wormhole to earth match up at all -and don't bring that exodus novel with all the errors i hear it has and my own previous experience with transformer novels i don't trust it.
what we are seeing is them trying to mash it into the continuity when it doesn't belong - when the next advancement in the cybertron game series actually comes -which is kinda what i think the last game was -a test to see what earth combat would be like for the engine. I think we will see new stuff with the story line in the future.
Also i don't the aligned continuity means their in the same world i think it just means that they are following the same production bible for this stuff -the 13 primes, the fact that primus is cybertron ect...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
It was discussed few times already, first rule of death in fantasy/sf "You aren't dead as long as they didn't find the bodie.ZeroWolf wrote: Starscream surviving is debatable, in my opinion he's dead as Predaking wouldnt let him live, and I really hope he is dead.
First seazon is nothing more but different version of 2007 movie, almost any character is only slightly different from his G1, BW or Bayformers Counterpart. Later, they used G1 concept of Autobot fighting with Earth-based villians etc, etc.Rodimus Prime wrote:TurboMMaster wrote:Animated was complelty anty-original.
Explain, please.
2 new characters in entire franchsie isn't so impresive number, especially when there is no completly redesigned characters .Animated, completely new characters for animation like Lugnut and Lockdown
I remember Transformers colonies back in G1.Cybertron played around with the idea of colonised planets,
In Beast Wars Primal wasn't Main Leader of Entire Faction either.Ultra Magnus being the main leader.
Paradron and that one planet from the Cosmic Rust episode.ZeroWolf wrote:I don't remember any g1 colonies,
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The Energon comics are just... okay. They're not the most awesome thing ever, nor are they the worst thing ever (like the cartoon was). They're just... neutral, really. Nothing special or charming, but not terrible either (thereby making them better than the cartoon by default). The have a few cool bits in them, but it's mostly just a by-the-numbers series.
Doesn't help that it was canceled and unfinished due to Dreamwave going under, but Simon Furman did post summaries of the unproduced final issues on his blog for those wanting to know how it all would have ended.
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/energon-%e2%80%94-revisited/sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:got a link?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/energon-%e2%80%94-revisited/sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:got a link?
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/energon-archive-1/
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/energon-archive-2/
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/energon-archive-3/
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/energon-archive-4/
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/energon-archive-5/
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/energon-archive-6/
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/12/07/energon-archive-7/
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/12/09/energon-archive-8/
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/energon-archive-9/
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/12/15/energon-archive-10/
http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2010/12/17/energon-archive-conclusion/
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
Remember that Animated and first movie was relased the same year, so we have got one story told twice in one year!ZeroWolf wrote:
On the animated front, so what? The plot of the whole season is like bayformers? Maybe if you boil it down like that but then a lot more things become similar like that.
Prowl is in fact, new Dinobot with some Tigetron's traits so he isn't so bad, but Starscream is basically only a new version of G1 Starscream (just like he was in Cybertron). Lugnut is Blackout modeled after Shockwave. I agree about Blitzwing, but it's still isn't much if you remember how many characters are just like their previous conuterparts.ZeroWolf wrote:Two characters were off the top of my head, as for redesigned characters...wasn't that the entire cast almost barring a few colour schemes. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, maybe blitzwing was a triple personality crackpot, the two constructicons were from new jersey, prowl was a ninja bike then a samurai bike
TurboMMaster wrote:Prowl is in fact, new Dinobot with some Tigetron's traits so he isn't so bad
but Starscream is basically only a new version of G1 Starscream (just like he was in Cybertron).
Lugnut is Blackout modeled after Shockwave.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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