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News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:40 am

And with all of that, and the fact that I prefer Sixshot to be quite a bit taller than all of those characters, I think he is too small to fit in an MP collection. That's why I am comfortable with Sixshot being with my classics.

However, if someone wants to include him with the MP line, and it suits their tastes, I have no trouble with that preference. For them. It's not for me. And that's the beauty of all of this. We are only limited to what our imaginations hold for ourselves.

Back to the topic at hand. I wonder if FP would consider doing a repaint in the dark green of the Rebirth series, and include a faceplate there. In looking at the animation models, the paint scheme here is obviously more in line with the Headmasters series, which makes sense then that he doesn't have a faceplate.

News Credits: 2 · by **Banjo-Tron** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:51 am

For me, its a question of size and aesthetic. IMO Hexatron does not look like an MP figure. I wish he were an inch or so smaller then he could be in my classics collection, same with Quakewave. But back on topic, I think FP have got the size of their headmasters spot on. I am happy with my Toyworld Hardhead as I feel he should be bigger than the others.

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:07 pm

Tsutsukakushi wrote:
Agamemnon wrote: And thanks for the correction on Patriot! That saves me some concern with Overlord.)

Your welcome.

megatronus wrote:If you count Hexatron's kibble, yea, it might be taller than MP Soundwave. But if we're measuring the top of their heads, Hexatron is shorter, which is by no means show accurate - Sixshot is at least a head taller than Galvatron/Soundwave in most depictions of the character. The reason I said that Quakewave was a better analogy, above, is that he and Soundwave are about the same height - Quakewave is actually in MP scale, even if I don't consider the toy itself an MP.

This Youtube video on 9:56 shows Hexatron is a half of a head taller than MP Soundwave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkBF5AUk4qY

This pic shows Hexatron only being one quarter of a inch shorter than MP 10 Optimus. http://kumastyledesigns.com/wp-content/uploads/420.jpg

This link with pics shows Quakewave half of one inch taller than MP Soundwave. The link with pics also shows Quakewave only being one quarter of one inch shorter than MP 10 Optimus. http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... d-121.html

As most know Quakewave has a undersized almost flat head. Had Quakewave been given a normal sized elongated tall head,he would be taller than MP 10 Optimus. As the top of quakewave's shoulders & chest are taller than MP 10 Convoy's shoulders & top chest.

MP 10 Optimus cheats a bit in height as Takara gave the toy a extremely oversized head with huge antenna ears.

As most know Hexatron comes with a undersized round robot head. In these comparisons pics Hexatron's top chest are taller than MP 10 Optimus.

Another 3rd party company called Clonedroid is giving Hexatron a normal taller elongated robot head with bigger antenna ears. This newer head sculpt is one third of a inch taller. it will make Quakewave a bit taller than MP 10 Optimus measuring from the toes to the heads.

MP Soundwave is still half of a head shorter than Hexatron. Despite Hexatron having a undersized round short head. While Takara gave MP Soundwave a bigger oversized longer head than they gave MP 10 Optimus.

In this pic MP Soundwave & MP Starscream are almost the same size from head to toe. Sounwave is a bit taller due to Takara giving him a oversized tall robot head. http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r90/ ... 223304.jpg

When MP Starscream wears the kings coronation crown,him & MP Sounwave are the same height from head to toe.

Thanks for all the references - much appreciated! I've gotta to get my Soundwave out of the box and next to Optimus; I knew he was somewhere between MP-10 & MP-11 in height, but I was clearly off.

That all said, I'm still thinking Quakewave is the proper MP-scale analog; Hexatron really outta be a full head taller than Optimus to be MP scale. But at this point, we're just quibbling.

by **Rated X** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:12 pm

megatronus wrote:
Rated X wrote:
megatronus wrote:Hexatron isn't really MP scale, so it's harder to tell

Cant say I agree. If Hexatron isnt MP scale, what scale is it ? I try to sugarcoat it in my collection as being classics scale based on his comic book gigantic size. But if we go by traditional G1 cartoon scale (The Rebirth) Hexatron is MP scale.

You mean the G1 cartoon scale where Sixshot is a head shorter than Optimus, Soundwave, etc.?

Thats getting too technical. For me anything "classics" scale is voyager, deluxe, or scout sizes give or take an inch. And MP scale is any figure the size of a Barbie doll give or take an inch. Unless of course youre talking about a character like Skyfire who should be the size of a Barbie doll in a classics collection. Sixshot is subjective to preference. While he is alot more relevant in the comic books, his 30 second Rebirth appearance was so iconic. "Six up, six down, it's like shooting cyber ducks in a barrel".

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:35 pm

Rated X wrote:While he is alot more relevant in the comic books, his 30 second Rebirth appearance was so iconic. "Six up, six down, it's like shooting cyber ducks in a barrel".

Afraid it was "five up, five down..." in reference to the Aerialbots who had shown up to fend off the 'Cons, but I agree that that's always the first line that pops into my head when I think of Sixshot.

Such a bad-ass.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:24 am

Hegemon has those slippers,MP Grimlock has those moon boots to give them added height. Maybe someone will create 3rd party slippers or boots to give Hexatron added height. the Hexatron Boots could transform into recoket boosters or weapons.

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 6:28 am

News Credits: 5 · by **_shaddow_** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:52 pm

I must say that Smart Robin's transformation is actually extremely impressive. It's like they took the torso idea from their own quadruple U for the nosecone part and sublimed it with all kind of other small tricks like the leg panels opening to hide the fists. I have to say that this might be a "perfect" transforming figure, where no kibble of either mode is showing on the other. I just cannot wait to get it.

by **MGrotusque** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:08 pm

Yeah. That is a great transformation. I'd buy the figure just because of that,

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:13 pm

Wow. Can't wait for this figure.

News Credits: 4 · by **craggy** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 2:20 pm

Sodan-1 wrote:
Rated X wrote:While he is alot more relevant in the comic books, his 30 second Rebirth appearance was so iconic. "Six up, six down, it's like shooting cyber ducks in a barrel".

Afraid it was "five up, five down..." in reference to the Aerialbots who had shown up to fend off the 'Cons, but I agree that that's always the first line that pops into my head when I think of Sixshot.

Such a bad-ass.

but in that he was both big enough to jump onto one of the Aerialbots and small enough to be wielded by Cyclonus (albeit as a Very-BFG) so I'm saying "phase sixer" gives him some mass shifting.

News Credits: 119 · by **daimchoc** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:03 pm

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:47 pm

daimchoc wrote:

Gahhh! He's amazing!

C'mon Diesel... I need you in stock so my order can ship

Website · by **RK_Striker_JK_5** » Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:47 pm

I get him Friday with some other stuff. My god he looks amazing. :shock:

FP has done it again.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:06 am

Honestly, I feel like they've outdone themselves altogether with this one. Bringing Jizai into the fold was one of the smartest, if not the smartest, ideas ever.

Their "brand" plus his style just makes for awesome pieces. Brainstorm/SmartRobin is an almost impossible design made reality. How it goes from boxy robot to sleek jet with no kibble in either mode is absolutely ridiculous.

News Credits: 2 · by **Banjo-Tron** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:40 am

Autobot032 wrote:Honestly, I feel like they've outdone themselves altogether with this one. Bringing Jizai into the fold was one of the smartest, if not the smartest, ideas ever.

Their "brand" plus his style just makes for awesome pieces. Brainstorm/SmartRobin is an almost impossible design made reality. How it goes from boxy robot to sleek jet with no kibble in either mode is absolutely ridiculous.

Agreed - more the pity than, that one of the best designs probably ever seen will not be featured on the front page. I can't wait for this guy.

News Credits: 14 · by **robotmel** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:34 am

Banjo-Tron wrote:Agreed - more the pity than, that one of the best designs probably ever seen will not be featured on the front page.

Agreed.
Its a shame this site doesnt just offer selective 3rd Party figures on its front page like Tformers and such like.
We obviously dont need every 3P item, as that would result in Ryan imploding!

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:21 am

Autobot032 wrote:Honestly, I feel like they've outdone themselves altogether with this one. Bringing Jizai into the fold was one of the smartest, if not the smartest, ideas ever.

Their "brand" plus his style just makes for awesome pieces. Brainstorm/SmartRobin is an almost impossible design made reality. How it goes from boxy robot to sleek jet with no kibble in either mode is absolutely ridiculous.

Is Jizai the designer?

News Credits: 2 · by **xyl360** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:06 pm

robotmel wrote:
Banjo-Tron wrote:Agreed - more the pity than, that one of the best designs probably ever seen will not be featured on the front page.
Agreed.
Its a shame this site doesnt just offer selective 3rd Party figures on its front page like Tformers and such like.
We obviously dont need every 3P item, as that would result in Ryan imploding!

I dunno, I think I'd rather it be all or nothing, especially in this case as I for one don't like this design (nor any of FP's Headmasters) very much at all. Deciding on what the "best" or most significant 3rd party figures worthy of being featured would be far too subjective and would just lead to more rants and arguments about the policy.

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:05 pm

xyl360 wrote:I dunno, I think I'd rather it be all or nothing, especially in this case as I for one don't like this design (nor any of FP's Headmasters) very much at all.

xyl360 wrote:Deciding on what the "best" or most significant 3rd party figures worthy of being featured would be far too subjective and would just lead to more rants and arguments about the policy.

I disagree somewhat. Posting all 3rd Party news would be a pretty overwhelming situation, for both users and the news staff.

I very much value curation, and would appreciate a selection of choice news. I know it's subjective, but we also all know who the major 3rd Party players are; it wouldn't be so hard to figure out what's truly newsworthy to the majority of the fandom.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:14 pm

I recommend the Retro Robot Radio podcasts from Scaleface. I've been trying to keep them up-to-date in the stickied news thread. It's a fantastic way to keep up on most new 3P news. It's not the front page, but I think it is a nice alternative.

[Edit] #shamelessplug

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:10 am

megatronus wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Honestly, I feel like they've outdone themselves altogether with this one. Bringing Jizai into the fold was one of the smartest, if not the smartest, ideas ever.

Their "brand" plus his style just makes for awesome pieces. Brainstorm/SmartRobin is an almost impossible design made reality. How it goes from boxy robot to sleek jet with no kibble in either mode is absolutely ridiculous.

Is Jizai the designer?

Yes. Code was the first of many of his works with FansProject. The Headmasters line is his signature work.

by **Rated X** » Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:24 am

Autobot032 wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Honestly, I feel like they've outdone themselves altogether with this one. Bringing Jizai into the fold was one of the smartest, if not the smartest, ideas ever.

Their "brand" plus his style just makes for awesome pieces. Brainstorm/SmartRobin is an almost impossible design made reality. How it goes from boxy robot to sleek jet with no kibble in either mode is absolutely ridiculous.

Is Jizai the designer?

Yes. Code was the first of many of his works with FansProject. The Headmasters line is his signature work.

I just cant buy into the rumor that Jizai is the designer of the FP Headmasters line. Maybe he assisted with the project and is being mentored by FP designers, but the aesthetic doesn't match his style or level of complexity in designs. One picture speaks 1000 words...

Is there any evidence in writing that Jizai designed Code on his own, like an interview translated in English? Or is it just a "He said, she said" rumor ? Maybe Daimchoc would know. I've heard he has access to Weibo and can read Japanese fluently.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:45 am

I don't know. I think it's amazing what someone can do when they have access to better equipment, perhaps higher quality CAD programs, and just being around others of similar design mindsets. On my own I feel like I've done some pretty cool network design things. But when I got into an enterprise network and saw what some of the veterans were doing, I really started to come up with some awesome ideas. I feel that I have become a pretty decent guy for workstation OS image creation, and I wouldn't have gotten there without being influenced by the tools and talent around me.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:36 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Honestly, I feel like they've outdone themselves altogether with this one. Bringing Jizai into the fold was one of the smartest, if not the smartest, ideas ever.

Their "brand" plus his style just makes for awesome pieces. Brainstorm/SmartRobin is an almost impossible design made reality. How it goes from boxy robot to sleek jet with no kibble in either mode is absolutely ridiculous.

Is Jizai the designer?

Yes. Code was the first of many of his works with FansProject. The Headmasters line is his signature work.

That is really cool. He is such a talented designer and glad to hear that his designs are being used (instead of stolen or copied).