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Postby Prowl76 » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:32 am

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Found this article at msn.com and had to share this with everyone. I just don't buy it being one of the worst ever. I loved it then and still watch G1 today.

http://tv.msn.com/tv/badcartoons
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Re: G1 worst cartoon ever?!?

Postby marvelp14 » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:19 am

Prowl76 wrote:Found this article at msn.com and had to share this with everyone. I just don't buy it being one of the worst ever. I loved it then and still watch G1 today.

http://tv.msn.com/tv/badcartoons


I agree to an extent but I have a friend that is a huge hulk fan and after the movie came out he loved it I don't know about you but I thought it sucked and apparently alot of other people thought so too because there remaking it. My point is since most of us are TF fans then its easier for use to forgive some parts of the old TV show. My point is to use TF fans it was probably the greatest of the TF shows but to other casual TV viewers its not that good.

PERSONALLY I THINK IT WAS THE BEST
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Postby Burnup Prime » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:20 am

I know it is my least favorite TF series, but I don't think it's the worst cartoon ever
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Postby *Elita_One* » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:27 am

I blame stupid things lke Paris Hilton fogging their brains and making them add TF to the list.
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Postby Night Raid » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:42 pm

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I loved it, and still do. It portrayed correctly the nastiness of war.
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Postby Cinema_Major » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:19 pm

Does the guy even give a good reason why TF G 1 is one of the worst cartoons ever??????? Last time I checked ...

Space Ghost (original, not adult swim)
Sea Lab 2020 (original, not sea lab 2021 from adult swim)
Stargate the cartoon series
and countless others that for some reason wont come to mind..

Transformers is in the same boat as GI JOE, Flintstones, Jetsons, Smurfs and others if not better than those.

People are just hating on transformers to get readers attention. Since the movie is out, they figure its a good way to get noticed.

Honestly I love the original cartoon because of its basic idea and out of all of the transformers cartoons, it had the most characters by far. Not to mention the vehicles at the time were close to modern vehicles where the new cartoons have the transformers looking like vehicles likely in the year 2097 or beyond. Yeah it could of used a deeper story line and done better as there were a lot of lazy mistakes but it was drawn, and a lot of time could of been saved for story boarding and editing if they had help from computers.

I swear if we could get adult swim to take over the old G1 cartoon with the cells and such since adult swim's partner Cartoon Network is now in league with Hasbro, then there's no telling how awesome transformers would be.

I just wish these dorks would realize that its not helping kids to dumb down the cartoons. If a kid doesnt understand something, they ask their parents and friends, and guess what, it helps them learn. But as a kid, they could of went really deep with transformers and I wouldnt of cared as i just loved watching transformer robots!
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Postby Windsweeper » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:29 pm

G1 the worst cartoon ever? It's by no means as good as the comics but it's got the best pilot and movie spin off of any toon ever.

Plus what about modern crap like the Armada trilogy, Pokemon and the other mons, The Batman and Teen Titans?

Pokemon has a lot to answer for since it inspired the anime style in other cartoons.
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Postby Insurgent » Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:38 pm

G1 the worst cartoon ever?! Has this guy not seen the 60's Spider-Man? Yeah, it had a good tune, but MY GOD that show was terrible.

G1 has decent action, likeable characters, good theme, and if we are including the movie, a truly brutal but acccurate portrayal of war. It even won awards for that. Granted, it was many years after, but it did.
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Postby Night~GONE » Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:31 pm

Burnup Prime wrote:I know it is my least favorite TF series, but I don't think it's the worst cartoon ever

Me too but i like beast wars the best
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Postby Cybertron Optimus » Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:43 pm

What a dumbass, he probably seen 95% of cartoons on Cartoon Network.
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Postby cheeki » Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:54 pm

ok so after reading that im so bloody angary :-x
how the hell can G1 be one of the worst cartoons ever i mean look at todays cartoons for godsake spongebobsquare pants,fairyoddparents,pokemon etc now they are crap and are defently the worst cartoons ever!!!
i love G1 and always will i just dont get it wot a load of crap!!
people these days dont like classic cartoons rather love bullshit programs like spongebob
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Postby E107_Theta » Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:59 pm

G1 isn't Shakespeare. Oh, hell no. One of the worst cartoons ever? I dunno, don't think so. But G1 is very bad, for sure. But G1 is so bad that it's good, and because of that, it's very, very entertaining.

Beast Wars has the best writing out of all Tranformer shows (and probably the ONLY good writing) but G1 is still the best cartoon because it's so fun to watch. The animation errors, the silly plots, and the pure bizarre nature of the show give it its charm. A lot of times, the show is unintentionally funny. It's fun to watch sober, and a blast to watch while intoxicated. =)

The new shows like Armada and Cybertron and just boring... they lack the charm of the original show. The reason the new movie works is that it doesn't take itself too seriously, that way, it's so bad that it's good, instead of being just plain bad.
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Postby Night~GONE » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:27 pm

Its not the mest or the worst it so,e where behind the middle.I dont think the person why wrote the article was a smart person.But i cant really bring my self to watch g1 every time a fall asleep.
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Postby Burnup Prime » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:36 pm

Windsweeper wrote:G1 the worst cartoon ever? It's by no means as good as the comics but it's got the best pilot and movie spin off of any toon ever.

Plus what about modern crap like the Armada trilogy, Pokemon and the other mons, The Batman and Teen Titans?

Pokemon has a lot to answer for since it inspired the anime style in other cartoons.


modern stuff is WAY better than G1, people just don't see it because they are too stuck in the past
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Postby marvelp14 » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:41 pm

Cinema_Major wrote:Does the guy even give a good reason why TF G 1 is one of the worst cartoons ever??????? Last time I checked ...

Space Ghost (original, not adult swim)
Sea Lab 2020 (original, not sea lab 2021 from adult swim)
Stargate the cartoon series
and countless others that for some reason wont come to mind..

Transformers is in the same boat as GI JOE, Flintstones, Jetsons, Smurfs and others if not better than those.

People are just hating on transformers to get readers attention. Since the movie is out, they figure its a good way to get noticed.

Honestly I love the original cartoon because of its basic idea and out of all of the transformers cartoons, it had the most characters by far. Not to mention the vehicles at the time were close to modern vehicles where the new cartoons have the transformers looking like vehicles likely in the year 2097 or beyond. Yeah it could of used a deeper story line and done better as there were a lot of lazy mistakes but it was drawn, and a lot of time could of been saved for story boarding and editing if they had help from computers.

I swear if we could get adult swim to take over the old G1 cartoon with the cells and such since adult swim's partner Cartoon Network is now in league with Hasbro, then there's no telling how awesome transformers would be.

I just wish these dorks would realize that its not helping kids to dumb down the cartoons. If a kid doesnt understand something, they ask their parents and friends, and guess what, it helps them learn. But as a kid, they could of went really deep with transformers and I wouldnt of cared as i just loved watching transformer robots!


I don't know about the whole cartoon network thing they might just make it look more like jap. anime not that theres anything wrong with that its just it wouldn't go well with TF.
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Postby Night~GONE » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:56 pm

Burnup Prime wrote:
Windsweeper wrote:G1 the worst cartoon ever? It's by no means as good as the comics but it's got the best pilot and movie spin off of any toon ever.

Plus what about modern crap like the Armada trilogy, Pokemon and the other mons, The Batman and Teen Titans?

Pokemon has a lot to answer for since it inspired the anime style in other cartoons.


modern stuff is WAY better than G1, people just don't see it because they are too stuck in the past


I would edit what you said becuase you will get flamed. But i kinda agree with ya.
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Postby Damolisher » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:00 pm

Burnup Prime wrote:
Windsweeper wrote:G1 the worst cartoon ever? It's by no means as good as the comics but it's got the best pilot and movie spin off of any toon ever.

Plus what about modern crap like the Armada trilogy, Pokemon and the other mons, The Batman and Teen Titans?

Pokemon has a lot to answer for since it inspired the anime style in other cartoons.


modern stuff is WAY better than G1, people just don't see it because they are too stuck in the past


Way better than G1 my arse. Armada was crap, and you had zero development in any characters except for Starscream. Energon was worse, since you didn't have a lot of development for anyone other than Kicker. Cybertron was good, but still nowhere near G1. G1 was great, because you had a large number of characters, yet most of them still got a lot of screen time, and character development. G1 was good because it told stories. Many of them. It wasn't one big, ongoing story, like the Japanese cartoons. The modern stuff is nowhere NEAR G1's greatness.
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Postby CyberTooth » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:13 pm

Two Words: Golden Lagoon.

More directly, Beachcombers closing line: We won...
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Postby Night~GONE » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:22 pm

Damolisher wrote:
Burnup Prime wrote:
Windsweeper wrote:G1 the worst cartoon ever? It's by no means as good as the comics but it's got the best pilot and movie spin off of any toon ever.

Plus what about modern crap like the Armada trilogy, Pokemon and the other mons, The Batman and Teen Titans?

Pokemon has a lot to answer for since it inspired the anime style in other cartoons.


modern stuff is WAY better than G1, people just don't see it because they are too stuck in the past


Way better than G1 my arse. Armada was crap, and you had zero development in any characters except for Starscream. Energon was worse, since you didn't have a lot of development for anyone other than Kicker. Cybertron was good, but still nowhere near G1. G1 was great, because you had a large number of characters, yet most of them still got a lot of screen time, and character development. G1 was good because it told stories. Many of them. It wasn't one big, ongoing story, like the Japanese cartoons. The modern stuff is nowhere NEAR G1's greatness.


Armada was ALOT better energon sucked cybertron sucked Beastwars was god beast machines was good g1 was ok but it wasnt the best. I like g1 but i think if you saw a cartoon like armada when you were like 5 years old and it get engraved in your brain that this is a good cartoon.I still think the new animated series will be the best becuase they are combineing the simplistic designs of g1 along with some favorite and simular looking characters with some beast wars style and a little bit of teen titans animation.Also people who do not like animated serries prime design do this. Get a classics prime compare the animated prime is a little more cartoon style but they resemble eaxhother alot.
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Postby Judge Deliberata » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:51 pm

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I cannot speak for Energon or Cybertron as I haven't seen them yet, but was Armada better than G1? I've been watching Armada this month for the first time from start to finish (I'm currently at the part where Starscream has switched sides), and I can safely say Heeeeeeeeeeeell no.

For one thing, G1 wasn't afraid to get a little bit dark and dirty, and delve into plots slightly more complex than the typical toon. I don't know what happened since Beast Wars, but it's like they got scared to talk to kids about anything more complicated than the subject of war itself, other than that it's a bad thing.

You had Megatron talking to Sean Berger about how the human race had been brainwashed by Autobot propaganda, and then one episode later, Soundwave is whipping humans and telling them to work faster. Meanwhile, Thrust is trying to crush a kid in a wheelchair. War's not a pretty thing; G1, and especially the movie, showed us that.

In other episodes, you had Starscream informing the audience where potassium nitrate was located - bird poop - and as a result we have a laugh and learn something. Not that Armada doesn't try to teach values to kids at all, but it seems so much more overt than G1 ever was. Hell, sometimes you have a character like Alexis at the very end narrating the "moral of the story". It really feels like a thirty minute Public Service Announcement combined with a toy commercial, more than any episodes like "The Girl Who Loved Powerglide" (equality FTW) ever did. And speaking of overtness, what with TF shows being giant toy commericals and all, that is very much the case with Armada. The transformations and power links all scream "GET YOUR PARENTS TO BUY YOU THIS TOY NOW". G1 really didn't do that too much - sure, season 2 episodes tended to have episodes centered on a specific character, but it all sure as hell felt more natural to me.

And the G1 fight scenes sure as hell looked better to me, be they hand-to-hand or gun-based. No one's a fan of Stormtrooper syndrome, but it's one thing when all those shots miss, another when a character is sitting there for five minutes getting hit by laser blasts, grunting and protecting his head and chest with his arms.

And Armada's hand-to-hand encounters are just awful. More often than not it's just one guy charging the next, and a quick cut to an elbow or fist to the face as the camera slowly pans across on that one animation frame - it really feels like they were trying to save money or something.

Armada's certainly fun to watch and all, but I'm feeling sorry for the kids who are having it bashed into their head every five minutes that FRED REALLY, REALLY, REALLY LIKES FOOD. I haven't felt this much hostility for a character since Orko. Spike, Chip & Carly were never this irritating. Stuck in the past nothing. G1, flaws and all, was still a better show.
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Postby i_amtrunks » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:58 pm

hahahaha.

He really should have watched some cartoon network stuff, or even the cash in shows like Bdamon (not sure on the spelling, but it was all about shooting balls at one another) crush gear etc etc.

If you want to add in half cgi stuff, add Code Lyoko to the list.
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Postby Night~GONE » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:02 pm

The reason why we cant have cartoons like g1 was today is becuase its a cartoon. Cartoons were move violent way back when dinosuars roamed and g1 was out and stuff. But know cartoons have to stick to being low profile and crap. The only "bad" cartoons are on adult swim but those are not for kids. Alot of kids like transformers too and hasbro wants to be able to kep the kids. If they made a show that would go on adult swim it would lose its younger veiwers destroying the younger transformers generation. I dont have a kid but i have nephiews and stuff i just let them watch what they want we watch family guy alot together. But still think about the KIDS for once. Know days standards they would rate g1 pg and but it on adult swim Not toonami thats for stupid anime. :grin: Have a nice day DO NOT VOTE FOR GWB
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Postby Night~GONE » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:24 pm



Probably cybertron and the good think about cybertron is no horrible music.
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