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I gotta disagree on Beast Wars. I believe the market is there and the timing is right. The kids who grew up with Beast Wars are now at that age where they have cash to spend and Has/Tak isn't doing anything to scratch that Beast Wars itch.

xyl360 wrote:I gotta disagree on Beast Wars. I believe the market is there and the timing is right. The kids who grew up with Beast Wars are now at that age where they have cash to spend and Has/Tak isn't doing anything to scratch that Beast Wars itch.

I agree the timing is about right for Beast Wars homages. Trouble is 3rd parties cant do it alone without Hasbro providing the core figures. 3rd parties should be filling in Hasbro's gaps, not the other way around. We had Cheetor and Dinobot, but then they stopped. Kind of hard to start a trend with only 2 existing "neo" figures.

Rated X wrote:

xyl360 wrote:I gotta disagree on Beast Wars. I believe the market is there and the timing is right. The kids who grew up with Beast Wars are now at that age where they have cash to spend and Has/Tak isn't doing anything to scratch that Beast Wars itch.

I agree the timing is about right for Beast Wars homages. Trouble is 3rd parties cant do it alone without Hasbro providing the core figures. 3rd parties should be filling in Hasbro's gaps, not the other way around. We had Cheetor and Dinobot, but then they stopped. Kind of hard to start a trend with only 2 existing "neo" figures.

Yep, but most of the Beast Wars figures are decent enough. It's mainly the season 1 cast that really needs help. Tarantulas, Blackarachnia, Tigatron, Airazor, Rhinox, Terrorsaur, Scorponok etc. that really didn't match up with the toys. Seasons 2 and 3 are largely accurate (though not always).

I want my accurate Season 1 Blackarachnia.

I don't think Blackarachnia's proportions are possible to do without cheating out the ass. Most everybody else had decent enough toys, since the show models deviated less from the toys than in G1. Some simplifications here and there, removal or shrinkage of kibble, but by and large the toys were the show characters. I think the only glaring update we need is a replacement arm for BW Megatron, since he had an actual hand in the show.

I don't follow you guys on Beast Wars, the show's CGI models were based on the tots already made.
They can't get much better, besides maybe replacing a head, and Meg's arm as already said.

Although the Rhinox figure was terrible, he needs a new figure.




Personally, I'd dig a new version of any of the season 2 and 3 crew.
Especially the transmetal designs.

RodimalToyota wrote:I don't follow you guys on Beast Wars, the show's CGI models were based on the tots already made.
They can't get much better, besides maybe replacing a head, and Meg's arm as already said.

Scorponok is blatantly the wrong color in toy form . I painted mine though, so I'm good on that front. Airazor's toy looks terrible compared to the show.

And yes, an Ultra sized Megatron with an actual arm (like the 10th Anniversary/RobotMasters/Telemocha versions had) would be sweet.

A new Rhinox with an actual chain gun of DOOM! would be nice.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:A new Rhinox with an actual chain gun of DOOM! would be nice.

Mine has them now. I have a pic of it here.

How about some easy upgrades first...

DOTM HA Roadbuster proper head sculpt
( the movie head is way cooler)
DOTM LC Sentinel Prime Head, shield and sword.
( more accurate head sculpt, one bladed sword, hard shield and a SB command rod.

xyl360 wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:A new Rhinox with an actual chain gun of DOOM! would be nice.

Mine has them now. I have a pic of it here.

Quite nice. But I'd like a new mold with less rhino parts hanging off the arms.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

xyl360 wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:A new Rhinox with an actual chain gun of DOOM! would be nice.

Mine has them now. I have a pic of it here.

Quite nice. But I'd like a new mold with less rhino parts hanging off the arms.

Yep, that's what I want as well, hence my idea of using molded soft rubber for the beast bits so that they can be integrated into the bot mode parts like on the show without hindering articulation but still having that fleshy/furry look.

xyl360 wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

xyl360 wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:A new Rhinox with an actual chain gun of DOOM! would be nice.

Mine has them now. I have a pic of it here.

Quite nice. But I'd like a new mold with less rhino parts hanging off the arms.

Yep, that's what I want as well, hence my idea of using molded soft rubber for the beast bits so that they can be integrated into the bot mode parts like on the show without hindering articulation but still having that fleshy/furry look.

Theill have to use a rubber that will not dry out and crumble into dust over the years.

Siganl Lancer!

TulioDude wrote:Siganl Lancer!

Good God Yes

I'd like some 3rd party to make a 1989 Batmobile that change into the 1989 Batman.

If we're talking 3rd party Beast Wars, I'd like to see someone like Perfect Effect take the idea on board. There could be a lot of improvements made to the original toys. I wouldn't be too beholden to the existing designs. The basics aren't easily changeable, so some details wouldn't need to be exactly the same, if transformations worked out better. Hiding some animal parts, etc, or changing minor detailing.

I'd like them in Classics Scale, which would be to say Ratrap as the smallest bot being Cyberverse size maybe? Commander would be as big as I could see him at. Work up size-wise from there, Dinobot, the spiders, Cheetor, etc being Scout and Megatron (Cybertron/United Beast Megatron is a good size comparison or stand-in) and Prime being about Deluxe. Save Voyager scale til you get to the Dragon, Rampage and Tigerhawk. This would make them more affordable and fit better with the larger G1 styled Classics/Universe etc.

Accessory packs or maybe special editions with add-ins would be cool. Energon crystals, Golden Disks, proto-humans, spider-drones, etc. Package them like they're in a CR chamber and I'll sign up for the entire show cast.