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Postby NeonPrime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:21 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:*points above to a few posts* And that's why we keep getting merch like this :lol:

Seriously though, Pride Month is all about promoting acceptance of people who do not adhere to the "heterosexual norm" and as such are treated as "inferior" while they are not. Nothing more, nothing less. And I'm all for that!


So what about minor-attracted people, bestiality, or necrophiliacs? They don't adhere to the "heterosexual norm" and are treated as "inferior".


A lesbian wants to have sex with a woman. Can you really not discern the difference between a woman and a girl? An animal? A corpse? Is the line between woman and corpse really blurry enough for you to see that as a slippery slope?

If it's just about promoting different lifestyles then promote them all, including heterosexuals.


They said it's about promoting acceptance of different lifestyles; do you feel you're no longer accepted somewhere because of your heterosexuality?[/qu

Are you assuming my sexuality and lifestyle? Biggot. I'm simply saying don't push it on children.
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Postby NeonPrime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:24 pm

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No, but I think he'd consider pushing it on children and those who disagree "Peace through tyrany" lol
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby Dr. Caelus » Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:27 pm

NeonPrime wrote:
Dr. Caelus wrote:]They said it's about promoting acceptance of different lifestyles; do you feel you're no longer accepted somewhere because of your heterosexuality?


Are you assuming my sexuality and lifestyle?


Yes, I am. :roll:

NeonPrime wrote:No, but I think he'd consider pushing it on children and those who disagree "Peace through tyrany" lol


It's a t-shirt. If Megatron had attempted to win over Cybertron through t-shirts, I'm pretty sure we'd agree the guy shooting at him was the tyrant.
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:32 pm

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"Wars are started by the people who have a problem with others who may actually be completely harmless" >:oP
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby NeonPrime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:36 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Dr. Caelus wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote: And the + is simply for whatever synonyms they come up with from what I've seen.


The "+" means "positive".


Ahhhhh, gotcha. A little piece of ignorance has been replaced with a little bit of knowing...


Maybe if you're talking about batteries. In this case + is for all other groups yet to come forward and be included and assigned an ANACHROYM, not a synonym. See the letters are anachronyms NOT synonyms. Your ignorance has now been replaced with knowing.

I also don't see anyone addressing Gays Against Groomers. This a community of LGTBQ members who OPPOSE marketing any sexual lifestyles to children. Are they homophobes, bigots, bad parents?!
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby Dr. Caelus » Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:39 pm

NeonPrime wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Dr. Caelus wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote: And the + is simply for whatever synonyms they come up with from what I've seen.


The "+" means "positive".


Ahhhhh, gotcha. A little piece of ignorance has been replaced with a little bit of knowing...


Maybe if you're talking about batteries. In this case + is for all other groups yet to come forward and be included and assigned an ANACHROYM, not a synonym. See the letters are anachronyms NOT synonyms. Your ignorance has now been replaced with knowing.


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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby zko » Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:44 pm

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For antigays this is like putting a bunch of drug references and maybe a DBZ Master Roshi style playboy mag in a few episodes of Rescue Bots lol.

Anyway, if the left wants to be more inclusive they should put a H for "Hetero" or S for "Straight" in there acronym stuff so its not such an exclusive club, that would really get em started!

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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:46 pm

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NeonPrime wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Dr. Caelus wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote: And the + is simply for whatever synonyms they come up with from what I've seen.


The "+" means "positive".


Ahhhhh, gotcha. A little piece of ignorance has been replaced with a little bit of knowing...


Maybe if you're talking about batteries. In this case + is for all other groups yet to come forward and be included and assigned an ANACHROYM, not a synonym. See the letters are anachronyms NOT synonyms. Your ignorance has now been replaced with knowing.


You mean "Acronym" >:oP And there are synonyms in there, tho not one-for-one.

Anyhow, LGBTQIA+ (Can anyone name them all?) is simply an aspect of a personal life style, nothing more, nothing less. Yet too many people correlate that to certain (unrelated) behaviors to the point of prejudice. #-o And it's that prejudice, among other things, we keep on fighting.
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby zko » Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:46 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:*points above to a few posts* And that's why we keep getting merch like this :lol:

Seriously though, Pride Month is all about promoting acceptance of people who do not adhere to the "heterosexual norm" and as such are treated as "inferior" while they are not. Nothing more, nothing less. And I'm all for that!


You ARE inferior... Soundwave is supererior.
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby NeonPrime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:08 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:I feel the need to say something witty yet relevant...

"Wars are started by the people who have a problem with others who may actually be completely harmless" >:oP


This isn't wit it's narcissistic banter. Americans started the war of independence with Brittain over freedom and I HIGHLY DOUBT anyone would consider either side "harmless".
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby NeonPrime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:15 pm

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zko wrote:For antigays this is like putting a bunch of drug references and maybe a DBZ Master Roshi style playboy mag in a few episodes of Rescue Bots lol.

Anyway, if the left wants to be more inclusive they should put a H for "Hetero" or S for "Straight" in there acronym stuff so its not such an exclusive club, that would really get em started!

"Yes, as a Hetero I feel left out!/Where is my celebration month?"


This has never been about anti-gay. It's always been about anti-grooming. You know, sexualizing children. No one gives two shits and a shamrock shake what adults do behind closed doors. It's when you start pushing it on children that it becomes a problem.
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Postby Burn » Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:40 pm

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NeonPrime wrote:No, I don't hear how stupid we sound. All I see are well-articulated points from those opposed to promoting woke LGBTQ&%$#@?!=+++ agendas to CHILDREN.

It's a t-shirt and tote bag, or one character in one cartoon, you, and all those who are speaking out like you, make it out to be constantly in your face. It's bordering on hysteria the way some people are going off their tits over it.

What I find stupid is that those who DO PROMOTE marketing sexuality to children simply quote the well-articulated points and reply with "You Biggot, you stoopid, you no parent good, and me OFFENDED!" That's just lazy.

Beauty pageants for children exist, and have done so for a very long time, they clearly sexualize the participants. No one bats an eyelid at that.

There's been a number of fashion lines that have put out clothing ranges for young children that clearly sexualize children. No one once bats an eyelid at that.

There has been a plethora of media that has placed teenagers in hetero-sexual situations. But no one bats an eyelid at that.

Children have been getting exposed to sexuality long before LGBTQI became mainstream media's latest fixation.

But no one, batted an eyelid at that.
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby NeonPrime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:43 pm

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Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
NeonPrime wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Dr. Caelus wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote: And the + is simply for whatever synonyms they come up with from what I've seen.


The "+" means "positive".


Ahhhhh, gotcha. A little piece of ignorance has been replaced with a little bit of knowing...


Maybe if you're talking about batteries. In this case + is for all other groups yet to come forward and be included and assigned an ANACHROYM, not a synonym. See the letters are anachronyms NOT synonyms. Your ignorance has now been replaced with knowing.


You mean "Acronym" >:oP And there are synonyms in there, tho not one-for-one.

Anyhow, LGBTQIA+ (Can anyone name them all?) is simply an aspect of a personal life style, nothing more, nothing less. Yet too many people correlate that to certain (unrelated) behaviors to the point of prejudice. #-o And it's that prejudice, among other things, we keep on fighting.


Oh bless your heart, y'all sippin your coffee cause ya quick done looked it up, realized you were wrong about the sinonyms (there's another lil bone fer ya to spellcheck and sip yer coffeee over) BUT caught a spelling error. So now how about y'all look up Gays Against Grooming on the facebook or google and tell me how they're bigots and prejudiced. Because they don't support sexualizing kids? Because that's the oppositions main point.

You keep on fighting? Didn't you say wars are started over people who are harmless? If you're pro grooming kids then wouldn't make those anti grooming kids harmless? Wow, what a biggoted lil bully YOU are.

Why don't you put your money where your mouth is like the opposition? Because at the end of the day pro grooming companies like Target are losing BILLIONS because the "bigots" have had enough. IF....and that's A BIG IF... your team is as big as you and the MSM think you are( here's a hint: you're not) then you should be able to financially save them. And thus prove your superiority over those pesky transphobic anti gays. >:oP ... >:oP ... :michaelbay:
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby HappyCappy » Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:58 pm

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Postby Dr. Caelus » Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:58 pm

NeonPrime wrote: BUT caught a spelling error.


To be fair, you misspelled the word "acronym" twice while complaining about what letters you think go into a particular acronym, and you did it in all caps.

So it's pretty funny.
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Postby NeonPrime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:22 pm

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NeonPrime wrote:No, I don't hear how stupid we sound. All I see are well-articulated points from those opposed to promoting woke LGBTQ&%$#@?!=+++ agendas to CHILDREN.

It's a t-shirt and tote bag, or one character in one cartoon, you, and all those who are speaking out like you, make it out to be constantly in your face. It's bordering on hysteria the way some people are going off their tits over it.

What I find stupid is that those who DO PROMOTE marketing sexuality to children simply quote the well-articulated points and reply with "You Biggot, you stoopid, you no parent good, and me OFFENDED!" That's just lazy.

Beauty pageants for children exist, and have done so for a very long time, they clearly sexualize the participants. No one bats an eyelid at that.

There's been a number of fashion lines that have put out clothing ranges for young children that clearly sexualize children. No one once bats an eyelid at that.

There has been a plethora of media that has placed teenagers in hetero-sexual situations. But no one bats an eyelid at that.

Children have been getting exposed to sexuality long before LGBTQI became mainstream media's latest fixation.

But no one batted an eyelid at that.


That's not true. People absolutely batted more than an eye at beauty pageants sexualizing children. It first came to light back in the 90s over the sus death of JonBenét Ramsey. I would say the biggest call to arms was in 2020 when Netflix dropped the movie Cuties.

As for heterosexually explicit outrage go back to 1995 when the movie Kids was released. The backlash was immediate and fierce. Even Natalie Portman's Leon: The Professional drew backlash. Not to mention Disney and Nickelodeon's programming. Dan Schneider and Jennette McCurdy anyone. Oh, and there was also the whole Woody Allen/Soon Yi scandal and Roman Polanski's 13-year-old rape controversy. And not unlike today, EVERYONE....and I do mean EVERYONE who called it out was labeled a Bible thumper, prude, tin foil hat conspiracy theorist, and in modern times a MAGA retard by mainstream media liberals.

Hell, there were federal communication guidelines that PROHIBITED corporations from marketing to kids. That's why Saturday morning cartoons in the 70s featured PSAs and educational bumpers such as School House Rock in between programs.

It wasn't until the early 80s when legislation was passed that deregulated content created for children allowing for the three-prong attack (cartoons, comics, and toys) immediately embraced by companies like Hasbro to market directly and push agendas geared towards children directly. Parent AND child advocacy groups (Mr. Rogers/Captain Kangaroo among others)lobbied hard to protect children from such heinous brainwashing. Sex and violence and all of its forms.

For you to say that no one batted an eye until the gays got involved is irresponsible and unadulterated bullshit.

You are either misinformed (so go look it up) or egocentrically stupid. I don't know you from Adam OR Eve Or Whatever so I'll reserve the right to judge for now.
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby Burn » Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:40 pm

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NeonPrime wrote:For you to say that no one batted an eye until the gays got involved is irresponsible and unadulterated bullshit.

I raised a point, you countered with a couple of examples.

And what came of all that then? It still goes on. The outrage died down.

You call what I said irresponsible and unadulterated bullshit? I have been cordial and respectful in my interactions with you. You however have been nothing but hostile and dismissive in your replies to not only myself, but others.

Thus proving to me, trying to have a reasonable discussion with you is pointless and you won't be respecting to the opinions of others that differ to yours.
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Postby NeonPrime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:26 pm

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NeonPrime wrote:For you to say that no one batted an eye until the gays got involved is irresponsible and unadulterated bullshit.

I raised a point, you countered with a couple of examples.

And what came of all that then? It still goes on. The outrage died down.

You call what I said irresponsible and unadulterated bullshit? I have been cordial and respectful in my interactions with you. You however have been nothing but hostile and dismissive in your replies to not only myself, but others.

Thus proving to me, trying to have a reasonable discussion with you is pointless and you won't be respecting to the opinions of others that differ to yours.


The outrage hasn't died down. In fact, I'd say it's only begun again with more intensity. That's why Target has lost 13 BILLION dollars in what, a week and a half.

Yes, I did and it is. I and others conflicting with your view provided facts and truth. All you can do to counter this is by the classic narcissistic and shallow trick of gaslighting. You and the others have not been cordial and respectful to me or any of those who disagree and intelligently and articulately state our point of view. You've been smug and arrogant, quoting our critically thought-out points and then replying with mere "bigots" quips. I don't recall anyone calling you that. Your side has revealed itself as little more than real-life coffee-sipping emoticons. To quote the great Harland Ellison " You don't have the right to an opinion, You have the right to your informed opinion." For the record, I did NOT agree with all of Mr. Ellison's informed opinions but damn it, I sure as hell respected them.

All you and those on the left seem to be able to do is play the victim.

That said I will promise you this...if you can provide and articulate and informed opinion I still might not agree with you BUT I sure as hell will respect you for it.

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Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:27 pm

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Dr. Caelus wrote:If Megatron had attempted to win over Cybertron through t-shirts, I'm pretty sure we'd agree the guy shooting at him was the tyrant.
Your analogy may have merit, though I don't think the LGBT community itself wants to take over the world.
Considering Megatron's intentions and endgame, the guy shooting at him would have been the good guy.
Do you consider Optimus Prime to be a tyrant?
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Postby NeonPrime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:09 pm

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NeonPrime wrote: BUT caught a spelling error.


To be fair, you misspelled the word "acronym" twice while complaining about what letters you think go into a particular acronym, and you did it in all caps.

So it's pretty funny.[/quote

Did I?

Anacronym is an acronym the original meaning of which is not known to most speakers.

Think about it within the context of this thread.

Last time I checked laughter was still the best medicine as well as a way of making a point
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby NeonPrime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:22 pm

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Dr. Caelus wrote:If Megatron had attempted to win over Cybertron through t-shirts, I'm pretty sure we'd agree the guy shooting at him was the tyrant.
Your analogy may have merit, though I don't think the LGBT community itself wants to take over the world.
Considering Megatron's intentions and endgame, the guy shooting at him would have been the good guy.
Do you consider Optimus Prime to be a tyrant?


It was marketing to and potentially grooming kids that caused the outrage.
The Gays Against Groomers group opposes this stuff and they can't be bigots or homophobes.

Megatron as well as all Decepticons thought they were the good guys. They were "working class" bots who wanted freedom from the bureaucrats. And there were reluctant Autobots who questioned Prime's motives.
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:29 pm

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Dr. Caelus wrote:If Megatron had attempted to win over Cybertron through t-shirts, I'm pretty sure we'd agree the guy shooting at him was the tyrant.
Your analogy may have merit, though I don't think the LGBT community itself wants to take over the world.
Considering Megatron's intentions and endgame, the guy shooting at him would have been the good guy.
Do you consider Optimus Prime to be a tyrant?


It was marketing to and potentially grooming kids that caused the outrage.
The Gays Against Groomers group opposes this stuff and they can't be bigots or homophobes.
Yes, they can. I'm not saying they are, but that's like saying blacks can't be racist.
Megatron as well as all Decepticons thought they were the good guys. They were "working class" bots who wanted freedom from the bureaucrats. And there were reluctant Autobots who questioned Prime's motives.
Disagree. There were at least some that had less noble motives. Megatron might not have started as 1 of them, but he very quickly took a liking to them. Hence how he ended up their leader. If he had come to the NAILs and the Autobots with t-shirts bearing the Decepticon emblem and claiming to be for peace and freedom, if they were smart (which a lot were) they would have asked what his further ambitions and goals were.
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Postby firefox91 » Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:54 pm

Burn wrote:Parenting. It all comes down to parenting. They're not being encouraged to be another gender, they're being encouraged to be accepting of those that are different to them.


Do you seriously think there aren't parents out there that are encouraging their children to be trans, non-binary, or whatever else? Have you seen the parents at youth sports that emotionally tear down their child because they didn't play to their expectations? Have you seen the parents that force their children in to dancing or acting to try to make them in to a star? Why do these parents do these things? Because the parents want to be special. Because they weren't, they are forcing it on their children. So now we have T+ where they can just groom their own children to be special, something different than the normies. But hey, don't listen to me. Go look at the "reality star" that has 4 queer kids. If that's all natural, that lady should be playing lotto with winning those odds.
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Postby Dr. Caelus » Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:31 pm

Lets talk about "sexualization of minors".

When I was very, very small, I proposed marriage to our pastor's daughter during our Sunday school class. I promised she would have apple pies and a mustang convertible (someday). She declined my proposal and I accepted that. No one ever really questioned, though, where a small boy had learned the concept of courtship (however clumsy or transactionary it might have been).

When I was a little older, I was drafted to serve as a ringbearer in my uncle's wedding. They dressed me in a little tux, just like the men in the wedding party, and people raved over how 'handsome' I was. I don't really recall anyone pointing out that a wedding is a tradition celebrating a sexual union between two people, and that I'd been costumed up for the ceremony to look like a miniature copy of the groom.

My favorite movies in elementary school were Robin Hood and Three Musketeers. I remember reading the slow-pitch junior novelizations of them. I loved the romance as well as the action, and dreamed of being the debonaire swashbuckler sweeping damsels off their feet. I even dressed up as D'artagnan for Halloween in fifth grade, hoping the person I had a crush on would be impressed. They were not, but I also don't remember anyone objected to a minor admiring a romantic hero.

Morgana Macawber, Tenel Ka, and Blackarachnia. Enough said, I think.

When I got older, I read Shadows of the Empire, Courtship of Princess Leia, Moon is a Harsh Mistress, and Glory Road. Very little objection to the content in those books.

And throughout there were Valentine's Day parties, dances, etc., where everyone was supposed to be preoccupied with who liked who and who was going where with whom.

And the transition to actual dating was sort of especially memorable for me because the day in seventh grade that I got an official girlfriend was the day all of those totally innocent and 'unsexualized' minors stopped calling me a 'fag' (or other permutations thereof). Of course, no one had ever been overly bothered that the other kids knew that word or wondered where they had heard it.

This is to say nothing of the incessant reminders that I was a boy and the extensive instruction from society in general on what expectations that entailed at that time and what it would entail in the future.

So, between the deep-baked traditions of Christian America, the movies based on centuries old romance stories, the cartoons with their comical will-they-or-won't-theys, the geeky scifi novels, the school dances, and the stupid candy hearts no one should ever actually eat, I feel like I was pretty thoroughly 'sexualized' by my 18th birthday.

But somehow, that sort of indoctrination, that pervasive, nonstop, in-your-face reinforcement of 'this is what we do' never really raises any concerns, except among - maybe - those parents who are trying to raise their chidren with no knowledge of sex beyond, 'The wife submits to her husband.'

Instead, people lose their minds over a grown man wearing a rainbow shirt or a cartoon character not identifying with either of the two most popular genders, because they believe that simple awareness of the lack of universal condemnation of same sex marriage, trans* people, or nonbinary individuals will suddenly 'sexualize' their children.
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Re: Hasbro Adds Pride Merchandise Featuring Transformers and More - Proceeds Benefit LGBTQ+ Youth

Postby Dr. Caelus » Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:47 pm

Also, people all shook because a pair of lesbians made a (profitable) group propagating hateful rhetoric targeting gay men and transwomen need to brush up on their history.

For God's sakes, the group's acronym is "GAG". Do you really not get it?
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