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by **Swiftpaw** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:26 pm

Red Alert fails unless there's a lightbar. There's already notchs they could use, how hard would it be to make one?

News Credits: 10 · by **HighPrime** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:12 pm

I was counting on a Red Alert repaint. Hope he gets the light-bar, though. Probably haven't heard this too often, but Wheelie is fantastic.. can't wait to get him!

News Credits: 4 · by **capellamusic** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:14 pm

I wonder why is Laserbeak on the new Encore release and not Buzzsaw since Laserbeak was already released with Encore Soundwave, so what's the point of re-releasing a figure in the same line? Maybe it's Buzzsaw instead. When the minibots pack was announced there was also confusion about the included minibots, I guess this will be the same thing, and we'll get Buzzsaw instead (I hope). Otherwise it's simply non-sense...

The Universe/Henkei figures look cool but I don't care about them...

by **Mirage22** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:24 pm

Universe Red Alert. lol. Like we didn't see that coming. He looks awesoeme. Now we can have the Safety Friends, of Red Alert and Inferno. But what's with him having no light bar?

by **Dreadwinglord** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:59 pm

Those are great, I am a buyer

by **breakthru** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:22 pm

Good news overall. Red Alert looks a bit bare and I'm not sold on the minibots being in the Henkei line, but overall glad that Henkei is slowly catching up and indeed overtaking Hasbro in the production rates (in the cases of Ratchet and Red Alert) as I prefer their versions

by **Loki God Of Mischief** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:11 pm

I just heard that the Encore tapes are two sets. One Decepticon and one Autobot. If that's true that's very overpriced. $50 for two Encore tapes? I'm hoping whoever told me that is wrong because you can get toys like Encore Jazz, Ironhide, and Ratchet for $35-$50.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:15 pm

Red Alert definitely needs the light bar on top. I am excited to see that there will probably be additional tapes volumes.

News Credits: 1 · by **rpetras** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:35 pm

I like that Smokescreen waaaaay better than the announced US version.

I'm on the fence about Red Alert. I put in the pre-order for both. I can always cancel if they announce a US release, or if the final version still looks that bad.

For the moment I'm actually kinda happy it's just a Photoshop job a not a preproduction paintjob.

by **Bonger** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:47 pm

Sledge wrote:Um... what's the big improvement on the Henkei? Or are you guys paid up members of the Pointlessly Chromed Spoiler Society?

Haha, best post i've read in quite a while.

News Credits: 12 · by **robofreak** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:06 am

Wheeljack144 wrote:
robofreak wrote:I was wondering when we'd see this. Now all we need is Hoist, Grapple, Tracks, Trailbreaker, Skids, and Jazz to complete the Autobot cars collection.

what, no love for wheeljack?

I knew I was missing one of them. I feel dumb now.

Sledge wrote:Um... what's the big improvement on the Henkei? Or are you guys paid up members of the Pointlessly Chromed Spoiler Society?

I have a bunch of Henkei figs and the chrome does'nt really do anything for me. I only went with Henkei because it was cheaper for me to buy them than the US versions. I don't own the new Henkei figs. The only ones I have are Rodimus, Starscream, Ramjet, Bumblebee, and Mirage. The chrome is'nt excessive on any of the figures, but I would've have rather had molded plastic as I fear the chipping I'll have in the years to come.

by **CollectionTF** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:29 am

Red Alert (awfull, no light bars and head color is different)
Smokescreen (Awesome)
Encore 15 (Nice, but why is it above 40 dollars?)

by **Nujevad** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:49 am

robofreak wrote:
Wheeljack144 wrote:
robofreak wrote:I was wondering when we'd see this. Now all we need is Hoist, Grapple, Tracks, Trailbreaker, Skids, and Jazz to complete the Autobot cars collection.

what, no love for wheeljack?

I knew I was missing one of them. I feel dumb now.

What about the original minobot cars? No huffer, gears or windcharger yet.

by **JaZzTaStIc** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:08 am

sweet

thats 3 repaints each
yea a light bar would be kool but thats not gonna stop me pickin him up, its an awesome mold and another gr8 (sometimes trippy) G1 character.

and if you lot of moaners are forgettin, the original red alert and sideswipe shared the same mold, so where’s the problem?

u can't really say anything about the detail yet as this may not be the final version, plus hasbro's may be better.

by **Pot Bot** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:54 am

chances of a wildrider repaint?

News Credits: 5 · by **Oilspill** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:47 am

This makes me realise how stupid it is to repaint a Lamborghini into a fire department vehicle. Yeah, that makes sense

Not that I'd have them do it any other way!

Anyway, it will be cool to have Red Alert and Inferno on the shelf together. Hope he looks better when we see some proper pics.

News Credits: 4 · by **Firebird** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:54 am

Oilspill wrote:This makes me realise how stupid it is to repaint a Lamborghini into a fire department vehicle. Yeah, that makes sense

The department obviously has a tremendous budget! Red Alert just can't drive it past any of the city's taxpayers.

News Credits: 23 · by **Prime Evil** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:26 am

Hmmm, I think I like Henkei Smokescreen slightly better then the US version. Guess I'll have to add another one to my list of Henkei's > Hasbro. As for Red Alert, I'll wait to see what Hasbro does.

I'm hoping to get a lot of Henkei shoppin done at Botcon. Still need Henkei Megs n Starscream as well.

by **JaZzTaStIc** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:59 pm

Pottermus_Prime wrote:chances of a wildrider repaint?

not wildrider, no no no, heres the breakdown repaint dear boi

all he needs is some dark blues over the reds and thats 3 stunticons

Website · by **DMSL** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:02 pm

Very sweet but instead of Laserbeak they should pack Ravage with Ratbat.

by **Pot Bot** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:48 pm

JaZzTaStIc wrote:
Pottermus_Prime wrote:chances of a wildrider repaint?

not wildrider, no no no, heres the breakdown repaint dear boi
all he needs is some dark blues over the reds and thats 3 stunticons

shoot, i always get them two mixed up and i was even thinking when writing it breakdown not wildrider.

As for wildrider's update.........well im still after him, i love that mold

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:36 pm

CollectionTF wrote:Red Alert (awfull, no light bars and head color is different)
Smokescreen (Awesome)
Encore 15 (Nice, but why is it above 40 dollars?)

It does seem quite expensive. It's about the same price as Encore Megatron.

by **SentinelA** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:10 pm

Unless there's a Hasbro version, I probably will not get this toy. My Classics collection is getting full, especially my Autobots.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:25 pm

I'm definitely getting both... Probably 2 Smokescreens.
I'll have to see the Hasbro version of Red Alert before I decide if I'm going one and one, or both Henkei for him.
Even without a light bar, I'm still in.

edit:
I went to BBTS and looked at both versions of Smokescreen, and the Henkei version is waaaay better imo... Didn't think there'd be so many differences/improvements--

--spoiler is red, not blue and yellow
--the front of the car is blue and white, not black
--the white stripe is thinner
--the number 38 is not on the hood
--the number on the door fits in the white square much more nicely (this part of the Hasbro version almost looks like a design mistake-- the number looks too small, or he white box looks too big)
--the bot mode is free of those annoying yellow accents (besides on the head where they should be)
--the only chrome looks like it'll be the shoulder cannons and gun

And I can't tell, but it almost looks like the wheels are silver or white, not that seemingly random copper color.

To me, this is one of the most improved figures that Henkei has released.
I just changed my preorder to "1 standard and 1 collector".