Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
Glitcher wrote:There are two locked topic about Henkei Botcon Seekers on the first page, one of which is mine, and my intentions were as orthodox as yours. It just seems that mods don't like duplicate threads.
Glitcher wrote:As much as we'd both like to see the last of Sylus, I actually got a PM from a mod explaining that the thread was locked because it was a duplicate, which apparently is against the forum rules. Don't worry though, Sylus' time will come eventually.
UltraPrimal wrote:The reason why all the Henkei figures are different from their Classics versions is not because they're better. It's because those color schemes are exclusive to Hasbro. This applies to both the retail and BotCon figures.
Glitcher wrote:
...how will this apply to Jetfire if he's released as a Henkei? I've been thinking about this for a while. If Takara is not allowed to use Hasbro's colours and they want him to be as G1 accurate as possible, I thought they might try to redeco him to look like his original VF-1S Valkyrie fighter...
UltraPrimal wrote:Another one of these? This is the third one today. People seem to forget that the whole Classics line was supposed to be a Hasbro exclusive. Takara already had a line like Classics in Robot Masters. Both Hasbro and Takara have their own exclusive lines. You won't see Robot Heroes in Japan and you won't see Hybrid Style in the US.
Apparently Takara really liked the Classics line and wanted to bring it over to the Asian market. The reason why all the Henkei figures are different from their Classics versions is not because they're better. I personally think most of the Henkei color schemes are inferior to the Classics. It's because those color schemes are exclusive to Hasbro. This applies to both the retail and BotCon figures.
I like to use GF Red Exillion and Cybertron Excellion as an example.
http://tfkenkon.com/g/?mode=view&album= ... 00&start=0
http://tfkenkon.com/g/?mode=view&album= ... 00&start=0
This GF Red Exillion started out as a limited edition figure. Hasbro liked this Hot Rod homage and desided to release it in mass retail. Were the people who were bought the limited edition Japanese exclusive pissed? Maybe, IDK. I know I would if I imported it. But the 2 are different enough that if you missed 1, the other is an excellent substitute. But they're so similar that having both doesn't seem worth while.
To use another example, this years BotCon Blurr. When I first heard of this figure, I disliked the idea because I already have Cybertron Blurr. And I could imagine how BotCon could take this mold, make it different enough to warrant a second(or third or fourth) purchase, and still have him look like Blurr. Then I saw the pictures and they pulled it off.
So in conclusion, will Takara recreate the BotCon Seekers, specificly Thundercracker? Probably. Will they be as good as the BotCon ones? No way!
God, I hate that chrome on them. Just looks so stupid on them. And worries me after MP Megatrons Cosmic Rust.
OK? Now no more of these kinds of threads.
JTKranix wrote:It is my understanding that FunPub has secured the rights to those characters using those molds and any "likeness" which would keep Takara from producing those figures in Japan even if they have different paint applications.
FunPub has to much invested in Botcon and TFCC to release those rights to Takara.
bvzxa wrote:JTKranix wrote:It is my understanding that FunPub has secured the rights to those characters using those molds and any "likeness" which would keep Takara from producing those figures in Japan even if they have different paint applications.
FunPub has to much invested in Botcon and TFCC to release those rights to Takara.
Now that sounds better, but if they owned the characters, then yeah, big trouble for Takara. All FunPub did was secure rights to repaint and remold toys for a convention, but that's not enough if Hasbro or Takara make or made an agreement of some sort.
If Funpub owned the characters Thundercracker, Dirge, and Thurst, then there, and I would say it be zero chance of any 'likeness' or repaint to produce any of the botcon seekers, but things have a way of changing, and the terms of the contract would have to be, again read though thoroughly to say Takara can't do that or else we'd have your asses on a platter that thing, then yeah they definetly can't.
To me, I'm hoping, becuase I can drop $1600 in Sams in a minute, and just to prove I make money to those who say I can't afford it, but I just can't justify paying $700 to $900 for any three $10 toys. Repaints or not. Days of Future past was the most I will ever spend on a TF, I could get Overlord, Victory Saber, or Grand Maximus for that price.
LIke I siad, we just have to wait and see..
JTKranix wrote:bvzxa wrote:JTKranix wrote:It is my understanding that FunPub has secured the rights to those characters using those molds and any "likeness" which would keep Takara from producing those figures in Japan even if they have different paint applications.
FunPub has to much invested in Botcon and TFCC to release those rights to Takara.
Now that sounds better, but if they owned the characters, then yeah, big trouble for Takara. All FunPub did was secure rights to repaint and remold toys for a convention, but that's not enough if Hasbro or Takara make or made an agreement of some sort.
If Funpub owned the characters Thundercracker, Dirge, and Thurst, then there, and I would say it be zero chance of any 'likeness' or repaint to produce any of the botcon seekers, but things have a way of changing, and the terms of the contract would have to be, again read though thoroughly to say Takara can't do that or else we'd have your asses on a platter that thing, then yeah they definetly can't.
To me, I'm hoping, becuase I can drop $1600 in Sams in a minute, and just to prove I make money to those who say I can't afford it, but I just can't justify paying $700 to $900 for any three $10 toys. Repaints or not. Days of Future past was the most I will ever spend on a TF, I could get Overlord, Victory Saber, or Grand Maximus for that price.
LIke I siad, we just have to wait and see..
Hey, I don't understand. How did you prove you can "drop $1600 in Sams in a minute"?
tigertracks 24 wrote:SNIP!
Electron wrote:sledge your comments are like a fat chick raping a hot dog, its unpleasent to watch but in the end its gonna happen
Mr O wrote:I'm part Irish, part Scottish, very Welsh, mostly drunk, somewhat Transformers nerd and all bastard.
Counterpunch wrote:tigertracks 24 wrote:SNIP!
Look at you and your fancy reasonable and responsible arguments!
Ultra Prime wrote:COMPLIMENTS, and INCREDIBLY well thought out response to my points...
Tekka wrote:Getting off the subject of Thundercracker completely. It's just as likely they may decide to do Sunstorm instead. Maybe even create another new Seeker like they did with him. Maybe using the Green one, or one of the lilac coloured Seekers.
Dealer wrote:And shame on those that want the seekers to remain exclusive so that they can make big profit on them.
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