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IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:56 pm

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ctrlFrequency wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I could see megs lead a rebellion against starscream's control of cybertron...

However I still hope Roberts doesn't go that route, it's so predictable making him evil again, just keep him morally grey with no intention of picking up arms against the autobots. Since they've started introducing beast wars characters they could always bring in another Megatron ;-) or Megaplex if they wanted a clone.



It doesn't have to be against Starscream... rather the Autobots as an ideal- what they stand for.

Optimus doesn't agree with Starscream being leader, but respects that he was elected Optimus (I'm sure in spite of Starscream's wishex) is still seem as a leader, especially to the fanatical Camiens. Besides, Optimus's annexation of Earth came as a surprise to everyone, including Starscream. So it's not Staracream's government that would be target-likely. If it were up to me, I would guess that when Megs finds out what Optimus did, it won't be well received.


Though I can't say that I disagree with your morally grey comment. I do prefer my Megatron evil, but I would accept morally grey.

Though splitting into more factions would be pretty interesting, a lot of political maneuvering. We'very kind of got about 4 factions running in the under current as I see it, those who follow Starscream (which is mostly just Starscream), the Autobots, then the Decepticon subfactions, Galvatron's brand of crazy and Soundwave's peace and love. Which is great, it's a more realistic set up,

I've been hoping for a while now that someone clever within IDW would find a way to introduce the maximals and predacons, things would get very tense and there could be some interesting stories to tell.

You do bring up a good point about the different fractions we do have already though had combiner wars went differently I could of seen Prowl leading his own breakaway faction, laying down the law with no compassion.

As for megs and the primes: thought as much, I may have gotten his anti religion thoughts from a different incarnation of him.
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IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Review

Postby Va'al » Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:58 pm

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*fzzt*
(Spoiler free-ish)



Synopsis
THE DYING OF THE LIGHT—PART 1! Since joining the Lost Light, MEGATRON has rejected everything that once made him the most feared and hated Cybertronian of all time. But penitence has a price, and before the ex-Decepticon can find true redemption he must first confront his darkest legacy—the Decepticon Justice Division.

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Leeeegacy


Story

I said this already in the counterpart review to this one, for The Transformers #50, how impressively impressive it actually is to see both the ongoings to have reached such an impressive milestone. Two very different titles, with MTMTE being the space opera-turned-sitcom-turned-horror-turned-sadgayrobots - and all, ultimately and listed in order in the Previously section, building up to this point. Right here. Now.

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Sneaking up to it


James Roberts has been seeding the presence of the DJD and Tarn's discontent with Megatron's change of heart for a while now, if not since their very first introduction. We have also had a number of other plotlines weaving in and out of the main arc, and they all appear to feature, in one way or another, in here. Seeds seeded aplenty, and the DJD is not the only discontent to show up in the wider MTMTEverse.

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Cameos abound


If it looks like I'm stalling here, it's because I am, a little. There isn't much I can really say about the book without ruining at least a number of reading experiences for someone, so I'm keeping comments to the comments - that said, what was to be expected does happen, but not as soon as one might initially think. Roberts fuels a slow fire. A slow, painful fire.

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With some funny bits, of course


The weaving is one the key features here, and how the characters have interacted with each other up to this point, and how they will clash, merge, unite or fight when the pressure is applied - as it does in issue #50: positions are taken, roles are assigned, dynamics shift dramatically, and it does so in a turbulent and terrifying fashion, before inevitability and acceptance set in. For some.

Art

The art duties on the bulk of the story are by regular co-cospirator Alex Milne, with an assist from Brian Shearer on inks. And if ever we had emotion shown under faceplates and optic visors, this is even more the case. The multiple colourist team, of course, helps to bring Milne's vision to vibrant life, even in the darkness of the latter stages of the story - Joana Lafuente, Priscilla Tramontano, John-Paul Bove did some stellarly blending and combined work on those pages, with some particularly amazing splash pages.

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Plus this.. er.. guy


The tail-end story 'No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases' addition sees some sparkwrenching work from other regular artist Brendan Cahill, delving into some backgrounds of characters we have and haven't seen in a long time in the series, and showing yet more emotion where a small breather was needed. All topped by some warmly executed colouring by Joana Lafuente.

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..more like guidelines


Where the humour and visual cues of the lighter side really show up is, once again, through the font magic of Tom B. Long's lettering work. Scenes like the below, the excellent title page, the various captions, the highlights he brings to the overall work with the small space he's given - it's always a stunning effect.

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Visual game is strong


With an issue this big, and as important as it, the various number of covers is to be expected, and anticipated. The main cover by Alex Milne and Joana Lafuente sets the tone for the entire story, and upcoming arc, while James Biggie, Mike Choi, and even Casey Coller and Hayato Sakamoto, with Yamaishi on colours, take on the catalyst of the story: Megatron. We also finally get the final piece in the six-parter by Milne and Perez, and a variant (thumbnailed) by Nick Roche and Josh Burcham showcasing the main cast of the issue.

Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

The split in stories, in paths, in narrative arcs seems to be working on a number of levels - from the temporal rest and background build-up of the later part to the building cliffhanger of the first, via the multiple seedings of current and potentially future storylines, and reconnecting of the publication with its earlier and preceding iterations. It works, but it will work much better in the longer run. Roberts is also able to stop the humour, welcome throughout where used, before the more serious part, avoiding some emotional whiplash that would really have jarred otherwise.

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Ruh-roh


The entirety of the issue, in all its aspects and angles, is to be lauded. The editorial and creative teams have brought so much of their game, that some minor glitches were to be expected - and yet did not occur at any stage. Visually, this is a great book to look at, with some creative layouts and structure, which perhaps loses itself in the format of the single issue and the ambition of the writing. It's very, very good though. Very.

. :RUBSIGN: :RUBSIGN: :RUBSIGN: :RUBSIGN: ½ out of :RUBSIGN: :RUBSIGN: :RUBSIGN: :RUBSIGN: :RUBSIGN:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby ctrlFrequency » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:10 pm

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Dr Va'al wrote:It's very, very good though. Very.


Oo Va'al said very 3 times... he was impressed!

ZeroWolf wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
ctrlFrequency wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I could see megs lead a rebellion against starscream's control of cybertron...

However I still hope Roberts doesn't go that route, it's so predictable making him evil again, just keep him morally grey with no intention of picking up arms against the autobots. Since they've started introducing beast wars characters they could always bring in another Megatron ;-) or Megaplex if they wanted a clone.



It doesn't have to be against Starscream... rather the Autobots as an ideal- what they stand for.

Optimus doesn't agree with Starscream being leader, but respects that he was elected Optimus (I'm sure in spite of Starscream's wishex) is still seem as a leader, especially to the fanatical Camiens. Besides, Optimus's annexation of Earth came as a surprise to everyone, including Starscream. So it's not Staracream's government that would be target-likely. If it were up to me, I would guess that when Megs finds out what Optimus did, it won't be well received.


Though I can't say that I disagree with your morally grey comment. I do prefer my Megatron evil, but I would accept morally grey.

Though splitting into more factions would be pretty interesting, a lot of political maneuvering. We'very kind of got about 4 factions running in the under current as I see it, those who follow Starscream (which is mostly just Starscream), the Autobots, then the Decepticon subfactions, Galvatron's brand of crazy and Soundwave's peace and love. Which is great, it's a more realistic set up,

I've been hoping for a while now that someone clever within IDW would find a way to introduce the maximals and predacons, things would get very tense and there could be some interesting stories to tell.

You do bring up a good point about the different fractions we do have already though had combiner wars went differently I could of seen Prowl leading his own breakaway faction, laying down the law with no compassion.

As for megs and the primes: thought as much, I may have gotten his anti religion thoughts from a different incarnation of him.


Yeah a lot of other places have delved into the religious aspect, but I don't recall much on it in IDW in general... until recently there wasn't a lot of religion for them.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby Crosscheck » Wed Mar 09, 2016 5:14 pm

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Something tells me they are going to escape using Brainstorm's briefcase that Ravage recovered. The hole in space-time will act as a portal onto the Lost Light. Perhaps Megatron will send the crew back, but cover their escape by fighting Tarn. Obviously there has to be more going on in their execution videos. I am thinking the gun barrel that Fortress Maximus recognized was the Nudge Gun or some other familiar Autobot weapon.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:24 pm

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Right then, time for spoiler tags!

Place your bets here on who saves the day for our stranded heroes! Well, the ones left to save at least. And we'll go with "lends a helping hand in some capacity even if they fail", in case there's tag team heroism, or at least attempts at it, going on in issue 54 or 55 when this wraps up ;)

*Defensor - 4:1
*The Wreckers - 8:1
*The Conspicuously Absent for Most of #50 Thunderclash - 1:1
*Drift and Ratchet - 1:2
*The Scavengers - 32:1
*Current Lost Light Crew (either faction) - 1:1
*Put Your Hands Up, Cuz Everybody Dies - 1500:1
*They kill Rung and use him to activate Unicron or something - 30000:1


And while we're at it, let's go with some prop bets, those are fun!

*Megatron dies - 1:1
*Tarn dies - 10:11
*Some other DJD member dies - 1:4
*This all somehow plays into Necrobot's mysterious list from years ago - 3:2
*Hound does anything else - 5:1
*Getaway and/or Atomizer narrowly escape to hang out with Prowl while the other dies somehow - 2:3
*The Scavengers don't appear again in this arc - 1:100
*A majority of the cool Japanese G1 Decepticon characters are killed unceremoniously - 1:1
*Pharma and/or Star Saber show up and act like a-holes - 4:3

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:40 pm

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Well Scotty, taking into account what happened, I am going to say that your bets may be a bit off. If anything, Drift and Ratchet now seem far more likely, and Defensor not so much. I also think that someone on the actual Lost Light will realize what is happening and will do something, and it is possible that briefcase will come into play, but not used by the outcasts since they most likely do not have it. thought that space hole in Swerve's should play a role too. :MAXIMAL:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby ctrlFrequency » Wed Mar 09, 2016 6:51 pm

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Well Scotty, taking into account what happened, I am going to say that your bets may be a bit off. If anything, Drift and Ratchet now seem far more likely, and Defensor not so much. I also think that someone on the actual Lost Light will realize what is happening and will do something, and it is possible that briefcase will come into play, but not used by the outcasts since they most likely do not have it. thought that space hole in Swerve's should play a role too. :MAXIMAL:


I gotta agree if we are going to put bets down, mine goes to the first to Bots the Filthy MAXIMAL lead in with.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:28 pm

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I think the Lost Light is off the table. We know they're maintaining radio silence three weeks after the confessions, so I imagine they're involvement in this story arc is done.

I could see the Protectobots and Mirage showing up. They were heading back to the Lost Light, but may be put off by the fact that they're running silent. They may catch the chatter regarding the DJD if they're in the right area of space.

I also wonder if we might not see the Galactic Counsel get involved. Rodimus and crew did just very publicly save a planet of organics, the Council likes Magnus, and they hate the DJD. They might be willing to get involved, which would at least serve to even the numbers a bit.

I'm guessing that Season 3 is Team Rodimus heading after the Lost Light.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby pie-man » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:43 pm

Awesome issue.... gut-wrenching for sure.

One thing that that bothered me..... Cyclonus & Tailgate still seem to be on the Lost Light, as they are not part of "Team Rodimus". I'm pretty sure they both will never side with Getaway, so there is some hope of the LL.

Plus, other groups like Ratchet & Drift as well as the Protectobots are headed back.... so who knows where the help might come from.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:48 pm

ScottyP wrote:Right then, time for spoiler tags!

Place your bets here on who saves the day for our stranded heroes! Well, the ones left to save at least. And we'll go with "lends a helping hand in some capacity even if they fail", in case there's tag team heroism, or at least attempts at it, going on in issue 54 or 55 when this wraps up ;)


*This all somehow plays into Necrobot's mysterious list from years ago - 3:2
Disclaimer: this isn't real and I'm not actually betting on this book's storyline. If you were hoping to gamble on it, please call your state's problem gambling helpline.[/size]



That list has already returned. Tha was the duplicate lost light. It's already been established
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:53 pm

pie-man wrote:Awesome issue.... gut-wrenching for sure.

One thing that that bothered me..... Cyclonus & Tailgate still seem to be on the Lost Light, as they are not part of "Team Rodimus". I'm pretty sure they both will never side with Getaway, so there is some hope of the LL.

Plus, other groups like Ratchet & Drift as well as the Protectobots are headed back.... so who knows where the help might come from.



What are you talking about? They're All over the place. There's multiple panels of them on the Rodpod, on Censere's planet and in the final panel of that main story.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:07 pm

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Well Scotty, taking into account what happened, I am going to say that your bets may be a bit off. If anything, Drift and Ratchet now seem far more likely, and Defensor not so much.
But that's what they say? Or did I write them backwards? That is a possibility.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby pie-man » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:10 pm

Randomhero wrote:What are you talking about? They're All over the place. There's multiple panels of them on the Rodpod, on Censere's planet and in the final panel of that main story.


My mistake then.... I still haven't gotten a hold of the issue yet, but just couldn't wait.... so I just read it up on TFwiki :-s

Funnily enough, there is no mention of Cyclonus or Tailgate as part of the team. I double-checked before posting. Oh well.... thanks for that.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby ctrlFrequency » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:14 pm

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pie-man wrote:
Randomhero wrote:What are you talking about? They're All over the place. There's multiple panels of them on the Rodpod, on Censere's planet and in the final panel of that main story.


My mistake then.... I still haven't gotten a hold of the issue yet, but just couldn't wait.... so I just read it up on TFwiki :-s

Funnily enough, there is no mention of Cyclonus or Tailgate as part of the team. I double-checked before posting. Oh well.... thanks for that.


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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby RevTibe » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:33 pm

ctrlFrequency wrote:
pie-man wrote:
Randomhero wrote:What are you talking about? They're All over the place. There's multiple panels of them on the Rodpod, on Censere's planet and in the final panel of that main story.


My mistake then.... I still haven't gotten a hold of the issue yet, but just couldn't wait.... so I just read it up on TFwiki :-s

Funnily enough, there is no mention of Cyclonus or Tailgate as part of the team. I double-checked before posting. Oh well.... thanks for that.


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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:34 pm

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ScottyP wrote:
D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Well Scotty, taking into account what happened, I am going to say that your bets may be a bit off. If anything, Drift and Ratchet now seem far more likely, and Defensor not so much.
But that's what they say? Or did I write them backwards? That is a possibility.

No no, I agreed on that part, but was disagreeing with other parts.

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby ebonyleopard » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:40 pm

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First read of the week. Reaction by the end of the first story, WOW. I honest to God audible "WOW".

Man, I did not see this coming. And Blaster. Blaster Blaster Blaster. How could you brah?

I've always been curious about the relationship between Blaster and his would be Tape crew, but I guess there isn't an actual relationship and Blaster doesn't have a cassette crew in this universe.

But damn...Never have I been more nervous about the fate of a cast of characters in a comic, and saddened by the fact we will never get a Ravage toy as awesome looking as this IDW Ravage design.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby ctrlFrequency » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:40 pm

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D-Maximus_Primal wrote:
And Ctrl: nice sig! :MAXIMAL:


Thank you :-D

I was feeling a WTF crzy! mood.... so... sig matches the mood (and I couldn't find my Megatron pic :BANG_HEAD:

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby RevTibe » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:53 pm

Ebonyleopard wrote:Man, I did not see this coming. And Blaster. Blaster Blaster Blaster. How could you brah?
He might not be too bad - we don't know how much info Getaway and Atomizer have shared. The only info we can be firm on Blaster and the others having is that Megatron, and those who may defend him, have been marooned on the Necrobot's planet, and that Getaway has alerted someone who will supposedly kill only Megatron. They probably don't know it's the horrifying DJD being sent to the stranded 'bots, they might not even know the Necrobot's dead.

For Blaster and co., it probably just boils down to thinking Rodimus is an unfit captain, and hating that Megatron's walking around, relatively free, talking up how he's a pacifist now etc. That wouldn't be too sinister.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby Transtech Rhinox » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:10 pm

What if Rewind was sent back to change things? Ravage missed him hiding in the Magnus armor, then there was a flash of lightning and suddenly he is there? The predestination loop is what keeps him from canceling out because he and the one briefcase that Nightbeat and Nautica found had to go back in time to come into play now. Sadly, he had to witness two slaughters.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby ctrlFrequency » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:16 pm

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RevTibe wrote:
Ebonyleopard wrote:Man, I did not see this coming. And Blaster. Blaster Blaster Blaster. How could you brah?
He might not be too bad - we don't know how much info Getaway and Atomizer have shared. The only info we can be firm on Blaster and the others having is that Megatron, and those who may defend him, have been marooned on the Necrobot's planet, and that Getaway has alerted someone who will supposedly kill only Megatron. They probably don't know it's the horrifying DJD being sent to the stranded 'bots, they might not even know the Necrobot's dead.

For Blaster and co., it probably just boils down to thinking Rodimus is an unfit captain, and hating that Megatron's walking around, relatively free, talking up how he's a pacifist now etc. That wouldn't be too sinister.


Yeah you really have to figure that we, as the readers have a different perspective of Megatron. For us he is a character in a book, but for the Lost Light crew, they lived through a long bloody war where others killed in the name this guy that is now running around their ship "free" and declaring himself a pacifist.

For us he isn't real, didn't actually kill people, so we can actually have some sympathies for him. We can like him.

But I can promise you... if he was real, I'd feel the same about Megatron as the crew does. As a character I love Megatron. And I have always said even the worst people in human history have some redeeming quality, but they still are horrible people. Same with Megs... in the reality for the characters (if they were real) they're reactions are reasonable.

It was a powerful scene as if Roberts was reminding us of how brutal and evil Megatron was. Not everyone can jump on the fan bandwagon so easily.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:18 pm

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This actually makes a degree of sense and is a great theory. A Rewind, a briefcase. hmm. interesting :MAXIMAL:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:15 am

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So many spoiler tags to read through. ..and on a phone that doesn't like them.

As much as I would like it, I doubt rung's alt mode will come into play this time...I see that as the 100 issue goal :-P

Time travel rewind would be a neat idea but it all depends on how it's handled.

Also whoever said that season 3 would be team rodimus chasing after the lost light then if Roberts did that it means he's channeling some classic British Sci Fi comedy there as that mirrors seasons 6 & 7 of Red Dwarf.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:03 am

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I know I am in the vast minority here, being more of a fan of "Transfomers" (formerly RiD), rather than MTMTE... However I have read and purchased both titles faithfully since the beginning. I have to admit I just don't "get" MTMTE most of the time, and not always favorable on the change in characters personas, but that is a discussion for another time. But I appreciate what it is trying to accomplish and have the utmost respect for its fans. That being said... I really look forward to reading this issue.

Also. I've read several comments with regard to Megatron taking exception to Prime's actions on Earth. Also I am aware that *currently* it appears Megs has no interest in what Starscream is doing on Cybertron, or may or may not be aware of what Prime is up to. However...in some future crossover event, I would think that a confrontation between Megatron and Galvatron would something pretty epic.

I know currently in IDW they are probably not even aware of the others existence (Well Galvatron probably knows about Megs..but I don't know about the other way around...) and they are separated by light-years both physically and metaphorically. Still, I would think the nature of Transformers lore would draw these two together at some point for a confrontation. Or am I just thinking one dimensional geewun gibberish?
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #50 Discussion Thread

Postby Quint » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:35 am

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Ebonyleopard wrote:Man, I did not see this coming. And Blaster. Blaster Blaster Blaster. How could you brah?
He might not be too bad - we don't know how much info Getaway and Atomizer have shared. The only info we can be firm on Blaster and the others having is that Megatron, and those who may defend him, have been marooned on the Necrobot's planet, and that Getaway has alerted someone who will supposedly kill only Megatron. They probably don't know it's the horrifying DJD being sent to the stranded 'bots, they might not even know the Necrobot's dead.

For Blaster and co., it probably just boils down to thinking Rodimus is an unfit captain, and hating that Megatron's walking around, relatively free, talking up how he's a pacifist now etc. That wouldn't be too sinister.


Yeah you really have to figure that we, as the readers have a different perspective of Megatron. For us he is a character in a book, but for the Lost Light crew, they lived through a long bloody war where others killed in the name this guy that is now running around their ship "free" and declaring himself a pacifist.

For us he isn't real, didn't actually kill people, so we can actually have some sympathies for him. We can like him.

But I can promise you... if he was real, I'd feel the same about Megatron as the crew does. As a character I love Megatron. And I have always said even the worst people in human history have some redeeming quality, but they still are horrible people. Same with Megs... in the reality for the characters (if they were real) they're reactions are reasonable.

It was a powerful scene as if Roberts was reminding us of how brutal and evil Megatron was. Not everyone can jump on the fan bandwagon so easily.


I'd be fascinated to see how many on this forum think Getaway's group is 'bad' or at least in the wrong. Forgetting Getaway and his methods (he's empirically a douchebag). Is it possible to add a poll to the thread?

It reminds me a little of House of Cards or Breaking Bad. Lofty comparisons for sure but they trick the audience into routing for them purely because the narrative is told from their perspective. It doesn't mean however that they're 'the good guys' or indeed someone we should be routing for etc. That 99% ref was very evocative too.


Edit - Sorry for the spoilers, my post looks like a president's military service record or something... can we assume everyone reading to this point has read the damn thing now? :D
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