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bvzxa wrote:not feeling them. Plus the price for a few paint apps doesn't justify the cost to import. Happy with what I got.
Manterax Prime wrote:To which I say, once again, discounting the metallic, there is absolutely no difference in paint apps between the TG-24 set and their Hasbro counterparts.
fenrir72 wrote:Ryan's Hoist has blue optics too.The yellow optics is in the toy while in the anime he had blue.
Again, unlike Ryan's pics,which is hi res I assume, the Tomy version will most probably use a different type of PVC which can't be easily distinguished.. Seen the difference between the Orion Pax Tomy and the Hasbro version.
Manterax Prime wrote:To which I say, once again, discounting the metallic, there is absolutely no difference in paint apps between the TG-24 set and their Hasbro counterparts.
JackStraw wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Ryan's Hoist has blue optics too.The yellow optics is in the toy while in the anime he had blue.
Again, unlike Ryan's pics,which is hi res I assume, the Tomy version will most probably use a different type of PVC which can't be easily distinguished.. Seen the difference between the Orion Pax Tomy and the Hasbro version.
I believe the Hoist in the galleries is the reissue, not the original.
fenrir72 wrote:JackStraw wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Ryan's Hoist has blue optics too.The yellow optics is in the toy while in the anime he had blue.
Again, unlike Ryan's pics,which is hi res I assume, the Tomy version will most probably use a different type of PVC which can't be easily distinguished.. Seen the difference between the Orion Pax Tomy and the Hasbro version.
I believe the Hoist in the galleries is the reissue, not the original.
Oh!If you mean Encore, yup, a couple of Autobots/Cybertrons did get blue optics. I meant the original.
synapse wrote:Paint apps on Hasbro Bumblebee looked SO cheap to me, while the Takara version looks so much better. I'm still not interested though, as I'm happy with my old henkei Bumblebee and never liked the character transforming into a Camaro because of the movie popularity/influence.
Good thing this one's meant to be a Dodge Challenger, then.synapse wrote:I'm still not interested though, as I'm happy with my old henkei Bumblebee and never liked the character transforming into a Camaro because of the movie popularity/influence.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Manterax Prime wrote:fenrir72 wrote:JackStraw wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Ryan's Hoist has blue optics too.The yellow optics is in the toy while in the anime he had blue.
Again, unlike Ryan's pics,which is hi res I assume, the Tomy version will most probably use a different type of PVC which can't be easily distinguished.. Seen the difference between the Orion Pax Tomy and the Hasbro version.
I believe the Hoist in the galleries is the reissue, not the original.
Oh!If you mean Encore, yup, a couple of Autobots/Cybertrons did get blue optics. I meant the original.
TFWiki has a pic of the original. It has yellow eyes.
fenrir72 wrote:Manterax Prime wrote:fenrir72 wrote:JackStraw wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Ryan's Hoist has blue optics too.The yellow optics is in the toy while in the anime he had blue.
Again, unlike Ryan's pics,which is hi res I assume, the Tomy version will most probably use a different type of PVC which can't be easily distinguished.. Seen the difference between the Orion Pax Tomy and the Hasbro version.
I believe the Hoist in the galleries is the reissue, not the original.
Oh!If you mean Encore, yup, a couple of Autobots/Cybertrons did get blue optics. I meant the original.
TFWiki has a pic of the original. It has yellow eyes.
What I said to Jackstraw
Original Hoist (Takara/Hasbro) G1 = yellow eyes
Encore Hoist (Tomy)= blue eyes
If you mean Generations, then as seen by all.........blue eyes.
Is that so hard to follow?
xyl360 wrote:Manterax Prime wrote:To which I say, once again, discounting the metallic, there is absolutely no difference in paint apps between the TG-24 set and their Hasbro counterparts.
Yes, you're absolutely correct. With regards to the paint apps, aside from the additional metallic paint used by Takara, there is no difference. But then once the different color plastics are factored in for both the solid and clear bits, standing them side-by-side I'm certain they look like quite different figures indeed. I've done so myself countless times throughout the past few years because for a long time there I was collecting both the Hasbro and Takara versions of nearly every Classics/Henkei Henkei/Reveal the Shield/United/Generations figure released and I can say that once you look at them in hand, even those with only seemingly "minor" differences usually look as different as night and day. That's why I've finally stopped getting most of the Hasbro releases for this line and have decided to stick mostly to Takara's (the exceptions being those which are so wildly different that I'm compelled to get both, like Generations Air Raid).
But hey, it's your toy shelf and no one can tell you what's best for your collection. If you want the Hasbro versions and don't want to drop the extra money on the imports for the sake of such differences then no one's going to compel you to do so, but just realize that some of us here such as myself DO see MAJOR differences between them and choose to pay the massive import costs to get these versions of the figures on our shelves. As fenrir72 said, it all boils down to tastes. I know that my wallet would prefer your tastes, but my compulsion to get what I see as the "best" versions of the figures just wouldn't let me go for the Hasbro versions. Then again, I'm certain there are just as many folks (possibly even some in Japan) who actually prefer the coloration of the Hasbro versions. I'm just not one of them.
JackStraw wrote:xyl360 wrote:Manterax Prime wrote:To which I say, once again, discounting the metallic, there is absolutely no difference in paint apps between the TG-24 set and their Hasbro counterparts.
Yes, you're absolutely correct. With regards to the paint apps, aside from the additional metallic paint used by Takara, there is no difference. But then once the different color plastics are factored in for both the solid and clear bits, standing them side-by-side I'm certain they look like quite different figures indeed. I've done so myself countless times throughout the past few years because for a long time there I was collecting both the Hasbro and Takara versions of nearly every Classics/Henkei Henkei/Reveal the Shield/United/Generations figure released and I can say that once you look at them in hand, even those with only seemingly "minor" differences usually look as different as night and day. That's why I've finally stopped getting most of the Hasbro releases for this line and have decided to stick mostly to Takara's (the exceptions being those which are so wildly different that I'm compelled to get both, like Generations Air Raid).
But hey, it's your toy shelf and no one can tell you what's best for your collection. If you want the Hasbro versions and don't want to drop the extra money on the imports for the sake of such differences then no one's going to compel you to do so, but just realize that some of us here such as myself DO see MAJOR differences between them and choose to pay the massive import costs to get these versions of the figures on our shelves. As fenrir72 said, it all boils down to tastes. I know that my wallet would prefer your tastes, but my compulsion to get what I see as the "best" versions of the figures just wouldn't let me go for the Hasbro versions. Then again, I'm certain there are just as many folks (possibly even some in Japan) who actually prefer the coloration of the Hasbro versions. I'm just not one of them.
Well said. I couldn't agree more. This should be stickied somewhere so this point doesn't have to be explained all the time/so often, and this is the most diplomatic version I've seen in a while - well done.
fenrir72 wrote:bvzxa wrote:not feeling them. Plus the price for a few paint apps doesn't justify the cost to import. Happy with what I got.
And different plastics in some cases. Plus a resealable package. It all boils down to taste.
Being that this is a free flowing site for ideas I do beg to differ that added paint apps go miles for a particular figure. Just take a look at TG-23 and TG24.
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