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shajaki wrote:totally understand. ive harped on the same subject many times, how classics/generations are a modern re-imagining of G1 as opposed to perfect representations (thats what MP's are for).
and its because of that that my mania king will probably not sit with my other classics. he'll be in a league of his own. i like the character (and new paint apps) enough to buy a stand alone figure, and asia specialists galvatron will sit on my classics shelf.
thinking about it further though (i waffle a lot lol) even with a better paint job i wont have any need for tempest. since i only like the jet mode and target master, i keep 99% of my figures in bot mode. so yeah. maybe 1/2 off just for the target master.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
i guess its a matter of opinion, but i think he's more "representation" than "update". he very closely resembles the original animation model and turns into the proper cannon as opposed to the generations tank. perfect representation no, but pretty close. though ill admit your argument makes me reconsider his candidacy for my classics shelfmegatronus wrote:Mania King does represent an "update" to Galvatron - he's much more Classics-y looking than, say, Hegemon is... or are you saying the molding/engineering/articulation issues are what bother you?
shajaki wrote:i guess its a matter of opinion, but i think he's more "representation" than "update". he very closely resembles the original animation model and turns into the proper cannon as opposed to the generations tank. perfect representation no, but pretty close. though ill admit your argument makes me reconsider his candidacy for my classics shelfmegatronus wrote:Mania King does represent an "update" to Galvatron - he's much more Classics-y looking than, say, Hegemon is... or are you saying the molding/engineering/articulation issues are what bother you?![]()
my original issues were the gorilla arms, colors, and (seemingly) having no place in my collection. these issues coupled with price (which i usually dont consider unless we're talking planetX genesis sized toys) was enough to make me pass. but ill tell ya, im a big enough galvatron fan that i waffled on it for months.
the new paint scheme is amazing, i can live with gorilla arms, and price is decent if you shop around. getting mine from chimung for $90. and if he has no place to go on my shelf, he can proudly sit on my compy desk.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
sorry... its $90 plus $20 shipping. which is still good, but i dont take tfsource's shipping breaks into consideration, being canadian and all. so for you it would probably only end up being 5 bucks cheaper (since tfs priced at 115). id stick with tfsource if i were you.megatronus wrote:Aha - I see the distinction your making. Makes sense to me.![]()
$90 from Chimung? Is that $90 shipped?? That's really good...
I normally buy from TFsource, just for theassurance on quality and customer service (plus selling the freebies I get helps with the cost, that is, when I don't keep them), but I've heard good things about Chimung. May have to try it.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote:So youre saying one crazed fan got hold of 200 or more computers with different IP addresses to rig a vote ? Unless ultra magnuses biggest fan works for a computer company, I highly doubt it.
Thought it was a Facebook poll. Maybe it was a TFW and FB poll.
You make it sound like it's so hard and all fans are angels when it comes to not cheating on polls.
Need I once again remind you of the Botcon HOF poll voting. When some fans where litterally jumping from board to board and creating numberous accounts to get Erecter to win the polls. Hasbro had to step in and disqualify all of the Erecter votes at the Botcon convention that year.Rated X wrote:The death of citizen stack was due to MP-22. BBTS probably has stacks of them. No pun intended. Maybe they can dunk them in dye and make some kind of crazy colored exclusive to help unload them.
From KFC's perspective, Citizen Stacks was a success as it sold out. as Keith unloaded & sold them all to imports sites. It's now the imports sites job and risk to sell citizen stacks to buyers.
KFC has the MP UM market for another Six plus months,Until Takara releases their version. This is plenty of time for KFC to uload all the Citizen stacks repaints and retools to import sites and deem this a success.
Rated X wrote:Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote:So youre saying one crazed fan got hold of 200 or more computers with different IP addresses to rig a vote ? Unless ultra magnuses biggest fan works for a computer company, I highly doubt it.
Thought it was a Facebook poll. Maybe it was a TFW and FB poll.
You make it sound like it's so hard and all fans are angels when it comes to not cheating on polls.
Need I once again remind you of the Botcon HOF poll voting. When some fans where litterally jumping from board to board and creating numberous accounts to get Erecter to win the polls. Hasbro had to step in and disqualify all of the Erecter votes at the Botcon convention that year.Rated X wrote:The death of citizen stack was due to MP-22. BBTS probably has stacks of them. No pun intended. Maybe they can dunk them in dye and make some kind of crazy colored exclusive to help unload them.
From KFC's perspective, Citizen Stacks was a success as it sold out. as Keith unloaded & sold them all to imports sites. It's now the imports sites job and risk to sell citizen stacks to buyers.
KFC has the MP UM market for another Six plus months,Until Takara releases their version. This is plenty of time for KFC to uload all the Citizen stacks repaints and retools to import sites and deem this a success.
I don't frequent TFW2005. I wasn't even aware of the whole "Erector" gag until they nominated him for the hall of fame when I was present at Botcon HOF dinner. I was laughing my ass off. I usually don't get off on nerd humor, but messing with Funpub is always fun. I heard the TFW2005 fans nominated Swindle because of the TFCC credit card fraud scandal. My card got hit for $200 from BestBuy.com too so I totally condone it. The TFCC hall of fame is meaningless and attempting to rig it was a harmless gag that didn't alter the course of production for any figure. I don't think 200 or more fans could agree on what to vote for to rig the citizen stack vote. When it comes to scale, cartoon vs. toy, accuracy, characters, etc, few of us seem to agree on anything enough to rig a vote. On the other hand most fans are united on their feelings toward Funpub making the Erector gag possible. I can confirm that Erector's nomination got a standing ovation that night. (no pun intended) Too bad he didn't win. I would have like have seen him rise to the top.![]()
On your stance towards Citizen stack being a success because KFC sold their entire stock, that logic could be applied to nearly all 3rd party releases, even Impossible Toys. They sold all their stock, so did that make them a success ? The bottom line is Citizen Stacks are piled up to the ceiling in warehouses. Maybe KFC got rid of them and made their money, but BBTS, TFSource, and other online dealers all got screwed with the announcement and unveiling of MP-22. You will surely see citizen stack on clearance in the near future. If online retailers make the same mistake and buy tons of DIA Stack repaints, it's on them. Fool me once, cant be fooled again...
shajaki wrote:i guess its a matter of opinion, but i think he's more "representation" than "update". he very closely resembles the original animation model and turns into the proper cannon as opposed to the generations tank. perfect representation no, but pretty close. though ill admit your argument makes me reconsider his candidacy for my classics shelfmegatronus wrote:Mania King does represent an "update" to Galvatron - he's much more Classics-y looking than, say, Hegemon is... or are you saying the molding/engineering/articulation issues are what bother you?![]()
my original issues were the gorilla arms, colors, and (seemingly) having no place in my collection. these issues coupled with price (which i usually dont consider unless we're talking planetX genesis sized toys) was enough to make me pass. but ill tell ya, im a big enough galvatron fan that i waffled on it for months.
the new paint scheme is amazing, i can live with gorilla arms, and price is decent if you shop around. getting mine from chimung for $90. and if he has no place to go on my shelf, he can proudly sit on my compy desk.
Rated X wrote: Fool me once, cant be fooled again...
Rated X wrote: On your stance towards Citizen stack being a success because KFC sold their entire stock, that logic could be applied to nearly all 3rd party releases, even Impossible Toys. They sold all their stock, so did that make them a success ? The bottom line is Citizen Stacks are piled up to the ceiling in warehouses. Maybe KFC got rid of them and made their money, but BBTS, TFSource, and other online dealers all got screwed with the announcement and unveiling of MP-22. You will surely see citizen stack on clearance in the near future. If online retailers make the same mistake and buy tons of DIA Stack repaints, it's on them. Fool me once, cant be fooled again...
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote: Fool me once, cant be fooled again...
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william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote: On your stance towards Citizen stack being a success because KFC sold their entire stock, that logic could be applied to nearly all 3rd party releases, even Impossible Toys. They sold all their stock, so did that make them a success ? The bottom line is Citizen Stacks are piled up to the ceiling in warehouses. Maybe KFC got rid of them and made their money, but BBTS, TFSource, and other online dealers all got screwed with the announcement and unveiling of MP-22. You will surely see citizen stack on clearance in the near future. If online retailers make the same mistake and buy tons of DIA Stack repaints, it's on them. Fool me once, cant be fooled again...
Most of these 3rd party Not-TF companies belong to a family tree of similar connected companies.
If sites stop ordering from KFC due to poor products. KFC will simply close down. Then a day later KFC will either open up under a different company name or rejoin one of it's sister companies.
Please stop making all of these wild false accusations. You have no idea how bad or good these KFC Citizen stacks toys are selling on the imports sites. Calling something a sites sales failure when you have no access to sales data to back up your claims is just trolling.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Unlike the rest of us here. You don't buy TF toys based of quality. You buy them based off scale. So your more doomed to get more poor QC toys.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote: Fool me once, cant be fooled again...
Logic dictates, your endless cycles or buying inferior QC 3rd party TF toys will keep continuing.
Your almost a 3rd party not-TF toy buying completist. So the chances of you getting more poor 3rd party QC toys is far greater than any member here.
You have no patience. Often times you put in preorders months before the toys get released. Most of the time you get the first batch that has the most un-fixed QC problems.
While most here watch a few youtube videos or read reviews before they buy. You don't bother doing any of this. Because you are convinced they are all shady guys who lie in their reviews.
Unlike the rest of us here. You don't buy TF toys based of quality. You buy them based off scale. So your more doomed to get more poor QC toys.
Rated X wrote: Citizen stack is in stock everywhere. Not exactly a huge seller you think ? Some 3rd party items are so hot, pre orders get sold out. Citizen stack just didnt get that kind of love.
Rated X wrote:You have a bad habit of accusing people with different opinions from yours of "trolling". That word has little credibility anymore. I got a stance thats different than yours. Deal with it.
Rated X wrote:Im a G1 cartoon completionist that limits my collection to classics scale because I want to build a cast display. I love obscure characters and dont mind having something a little bit less quality rather than having an empty spot on my shelf for that character. I also like to be the guy that has it first and doesnt risk missing out if it turns out to be a hot seller. Im not the guy who buys it a year later to save 50 bucks. Thats just me. Ive gotten burnt with KFC several times. But I still plan on buying their future cassette bots because who else is gonna tackle those characters ? Call it impatience if you want, but im not getting any younger. BBTS takes good care of my QC issues because I spend good money with them. So I really dont worry when I buy something. But im not afraid to point out my experiences with KFC products I actually bought.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote: Citizen stack is in stock everywhere. Not exactly a huge seller you think ? Some 3rd party items are so hot, pre orders get sold out. Citizen stack just didnt get that kind of love.
A BS explanation if I ever saw one.
KFC Citizen Stacks has only been out for Six Weeks.
These days, It's a rarity when a 3rd party Not-TF toy sells out quickly on the imports sites.Their are so many more other popular 3rd Not-TF toys still in stock everywhere, Should we all consider them flops in sales also
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Rated X wrote:You have a bad habit of accusing people with different opinions from yours of "trolling". That word has little credibility anymore. I got a stance thats different than yours. Deal with it.
Could care less about your different opinion than mine.
This is all about how you act un-professionally, annoying,overly repeative,Unclassy, disrectful, Immature, and non-adult like on the forums.
Other than trying to start trouble or to be annoying. You don't need to jump in and out of every thread here in this section. Repeating the same tired old song,Over One hundred times whenever you hate something. why you Hate Citizen Stacks or why you hate Hexatron. Why you hate Kronos, Why you hate TF toys not in your OCD Cartoon classics scale. Is just too much, Annoying and yes deemed trolling by one of it's definations online.
This isn't even the Citizen Stacks thread. Yet you've mentioned the toy numerous times in this thread.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote:Im a G1 cartoon completionist that limits my collection to classics scale because I want to build a cast display. I love obscure characters and dont mind having something a little bit less quality rather than having an empty spot on my shelf for that character. I also like to be the guy that has it first and doesnt risk missing out if it turns out to be a hot seller. Im not the guy who buys it a year later to save 50 bucks. Thats just me. Ive gotten burnt with KFC several times. But I still plan on buying their future cassette bots because who else is gonna tackle those characters ? Call it impatience if you want, but im not getting any younger. BBTS takes good care of my QC issues because I spend good money with them. So I really dont worry when I buy something. But im not afraid to point out my experiences with KFC products I actually bought.
Paying 3rd party prices on toys you know are inferior just to be a completist and fill up a display shelf is just![]()
Returning too much stuff to BBTS especially when you know that 3rd party company makes inferior products is taking advanatage of Joel. Everything you break and return comes out of Joel's company profits.
Their is no shame in saving money and getting products much later on at a reduced price.
If you keep getting burnt by so many bad products from a 3rd party Not-TF company. Then why do you keep buying from that same company? reads like you have no self control, have the completist buying sickness, OCD and spend all your hard earned money on plastic toys.
Complaining all of this Forum about certain 3rd parties having inferior products. Then admitting to buying more of their company products is just![]()
Nobody is getting any younger. Doesn't mean we all spend our hard earned pay checks solely on toys. Some of us value other things as more important like Women, Families, Social life, Buying a house, Driving around in nice cars. Paying to put our kids in the best schools, Stocks, bonds and other things.
Rated X wrote: Youve basically described yourself and everything you do here. People have even called you out on being screen names that were banned from TFW2005. You created a thread calling to change the height of the figure you now keep defending. And you hold the title of being the only site member ever to create a "please stop insulting me" thread. The ironic thing was that I wasnt even involved in the scale insults that promoted you to post that thread. When they were joking about .64328 of an inch scale, I actually had to ask what the hell they were joking about ? Needless to say it was you and your repetitive scale rants about leader class characters hasbro should do. You could climb inside the machine and set it to rinse, wash, and repeat all day.
Rated X wrote:Back on topic. This is a KFC thread so any talk on KFCs quality control, track record, etc. is fair game here. I wont go as far as saying dont buy temptest, but I caution those who do to buy it from a reputable dealer with a stone cold return/exchange policy.
Rated X wrote: 3rd party prices, 3rd party prices, 3rd party prices... Stop bitching about prices. Either pay to play or limit yourself to the constraints of hasbro and takara.
Rated X wrote:Everything Ive ever returned to BBTS has either arrived broken or fell apart upon opening. I ship my pile of loot when it hits between $600-800 dollars. My highest POL was almost $1500 and I dont think ive ever shipped a POL under $400. My point is I pay to play and BBTS appreciates my business. My order history speaks for itself. And their excellent customer service is why I buy 99% of my stuff from BBTS. I only do other retailers for exclusives, KOs, or stuff BBTS wont touch for IP reasons. Im not going to throw out names I read in BBTS e mails like if I know them personally. You shouldnt either. All I know is they seem to appreciate my business and make good on QC issues. I buy alot so I run into alot more than a guy who hardly buys any 3rd party stuff like yourself. If you ever decide to come out your pockets and pay those horrible "3rd party prices" more often, you would see that QC issues are pretty common. Nobodys abusing the system as you allege I do. So shut your pothole.
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:**Groooooaaaannnnnnn*** Let's wrench this back on topic, shall we? You two can continue on PM if you must, but I'd like to see more discussion on this figure...
I agree with others that say that the jet mode is top notch. It'd be nice if it was a little smoother in the joins, but I know how difficult that is for these toys. I like this slightly better than the Generations mold as the nose is a little flatter/more oval. The Generations version is very round.
Still, this is not enough to replace the Generations mold, in my opinion. I like there to be more differentiation.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Rated X wrote: 3rd party prices, 3rd party prices, 3rd party prices... Stop bitching about prices. Either pay to play or limit yourself to the constraints of hasbro and takara.
Sorry, Those of us who have families, Wives and kids. Need to have budgets and exercise some self control.
Contrary to your belief nobody envies your life style. nobody is willing to do without a wife,kids, family and friends. Just so they can surrond themselves with plastic toys instead. Most will agree this is wrong and taking the hobby to the extreme.Rated X wrote:Everything Ive ever returned to BBTS has either arrived broken or fell apart upon opening. I ship my pile of loot when it hits between $600-800 dollars. My highest POL was almost $1500 and I dont think ive ever shipped a POL under $400. My point is I pay to play and BBTS appreciates my business. My order history speaks for itself. And their excellent customer service is why I buy 99% of my stuff from BBTS. I only do other retailers for exclusives, KOs, or stuff BBTS wont touch for IP reasons. Im not going to throw out names I read in BBTS e mails like if I know them personally. You shouldnt either. All I know is they seem to appreciate my business and make good on QC issues. I buy alot so I run into alot more than a guy who hardly buys any 3rd party stuff like yourself. If you ever decide to come out your pockets and pay those horrible "3rd party prices" more often, you would see that QC issues are pretty common. Nobodys abusing the system as you allege I do. So shut your pothole.
Yes you are abusing the BBTS return system. You've basically adopted a,
Try me now, Then I'll decide if I want to keep or not policy with BBTS.
Please don't make matters worse. By giving others here Strategies on how to abuse the return system BBTS has.
Joel does not deserve to be taken advantage of like this.
You've admitted here to breaking a whole bunch of 3rd party toys. Those toys you broke, you need to keep. not return back to BBTS. Lying to Joel constantly that those toys arrived damaged and you didn't break them. Is what is known as abusing the return policy BBTS has.
When you abuse the BBTS return policy. It comes out of Joel's profits. Those opened up, damaged toys you return, Can't be resold as full priced MISB toys. When BBTS gets taken advantage of by some buyers abusing the return policy, Prices go up for everyone. Because Joel is not going to absorb the loses in return profits, He going to off set it by charging everyone more. This is what USA retail chains do to offset returns loses.
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